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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
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 Posted - 05/25/2006 : 20:46:14
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Guitar Wolf - Jet Generation
your thoughts?
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1485 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2006 : 21:45:06
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My thoughts are.... who the fuck is Jet Generation?
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 02:10:21
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Guitar Wolf is the band.
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www.myspace.com/doog = solo choons
www.myspace.com/casabonitaband = noisey stuff
www.myspace.com/weevilknievel = surfrockpop geekery
www.myspace.com/ukpixiestribute = Nimrod's Son |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 03:38:16
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You know what, I know it's a pathetically obviuos choice, but I've always loved what Albini did with Surfer Rosa. Even though he chopped bits of songs out or whatever, I love the sound of that album.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 05/26/2006 : 03:39:58
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WORD! At last someone who loves Guitar Wolf.
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 04:26:37
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Originally posted by vilainde
WORD! At last someone who loves Guitar Wolf.
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
They have loooooads of fans in Japan ; )
Yeah I vote for Surfer Rosa too. Also In Utero, so yeah I guess Albini.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 07:13:58
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It's difficult to say. There are so many great producers and so many genres of music, and it's kind of like comparing apples and oranges on a lot of albums. I am, of course, a Brian Wilson fanatic, and I could easily say on any given day that Pet Sounds is the greatest pop production ever. But of course, I've got to mention some of Phil Spector's amazing productions, especially Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes Featuring Veronica and A Christmas Gift for You from Philles Records. He's absolutely from another world. His productions are just mind-boggling. Recently I've been getting into a lot of Curt Boettcher's stuff. The album Begin by The Millennium is very well-produced. Also worth mentioning is the unrelease Sndy Salisbury album called Sandy that he produced, which may actually be my favourite of his. There are some really incredible productions on that album, especially "I Just Don't Know How to Say Goodbye" and his rendition of "Come Softly." I'm also a huge fan of Lenny Waronker and his work with Randy Newman and on Van Dyke Parks' first album. Like I said, it's difficult, but I still think Pet Sounds is the best album production ever.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 07:43:31
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I would kill for the drum sound on YYYs "Maps".
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 07:51:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl
You know what, I know it's a pathetically obviuos choice, but I've always loved what Albini did with Surfer Rosa. Even though he chopped bits of songs out or whatever, I love the sound of that album.
Agreed, and generally Albini's production fullstop.
It's such an enormous indie-noise-rock cliché, but he really does have the best drum sounds. It sounds like drumkit, not an overly-processed drum machine, something that can't be said for today's modern rock production.
And the way you can hear the guide vocal in the background, slightly out of time/tune with the main vocal.. or maybe it's doubletracked to sound like that on purpose.. either way, I fackin' love it!
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www.myspace.com/doog = solo choons
www.myspace.com/casabonitaband = noisey stuff
www.myspace.com/weevilknievel = surfrockpop geekery
www.myspace.com/ukpixiestribute = Nimrod's Son |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 05/26/2006 : 07:59:57
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Albini does drums really, really well. It's basically down to micing them properly with really good mics, all simple things but done so, so well. I don't think he gets the rest of it as right though - his vocals aren't always the greatest.
That said, check out his albums with low, which actually disprove my point.
I'll shut up now.
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 09:18:23
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Talking of drums, I'm quite partial to that almost-drum-machine sound on the Strokes first album.
I don't really have a production favourite, although I'm rather keen on the general sound of Fear of Music - Talking Heads.
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 09:21:14
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Ooh, no, wait, Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea. I love those distorted acoustics on that album.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 12:07:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Doog
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Originally posted by Carl
You know what, I know it's a pathetically obviuos choice, but I've always loved what Albini did with Surfer Rosa. Even though he chopped bits of songs out or whatever, I love the sound of that album.
Agreed, and generally Albini's production fullstop.
It's such an enormous indie-noise-rock cliché, but he really does have the best drum sounds. It sounds like drumkit, not an overly-processed drum machine, something that can't be said for today's modern rock production.
And the way you can hear the guide vocal in the background, slightly out of time/tune with the main vocal.. or maybe it's doubletracked to sound like that on purpose.. either way, I fackin' love it!
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www.myspace.com/doog = solo choons
www.myspace.com/casabonitaband = noisey stuff
www.myspace.com/weevilknievel = surfrockpop geekery
www.myspace.com/ukpixiestribute = Nimrod's Son
I remember reading something, I think it was Kurt Cobain talking about In Utero, and he said Albini used a lot of old microphones, German makes and the like. Apparently, he likes to stick microphones everywhere to capture that unique, live sound.
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
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1485 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 18:13:57
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It's a played out record but Nirvana's "Nevermind" sounds pretty close to perfection production wise in my opinion. Best drum sound I've ever heard on record.
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1887 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 18:18:07
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New Skin for the Old Ceremony - Leonard Cohen
Beautiful arrangements. Cohen's voice seems very well recorded. Very full.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 18:33:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl
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Originally posted by Doog
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Originally posted by Carl
You know what, I know it's a pathetically obviuos choice, but I've always loved what Albini did with Surfer Rosa. Even though he chopped bits of songs out or whatever, I love the sound of that album.
Agreed, and generally Albini's production fullstop.
It's such an enormous indie-noise-rock cliché, but he really does have the best drum sounds. It sounds like drumkit, not an overly-processed drum machine, something that can't be said for today's modern rock production.
And the way you can hear the guide vocal in the background, slightly out of time/tune with the main vocal.. or maybe it's doubletracked to sound like that on purpose.. either way, I fackin' love it!
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www.myspace.com/doog = solo choons
www.myspace.com/casabonitaband = noisey stuff
www.myspace.com/weevilknievel = surfrockpop geekery
www.myspace.com/ukpixiestribute = Nimrod's Son
I remember reading something, I think it was Kurt Cobain talking about In Utero, and he said Albini used a lot of old microphones, German makes and the like. Apparently, he likes to stick microphones everywhere to capture that unique, live sound.
Or you could just say In Utero like me ; )
I also nominate Radiohead, 'Kid A'.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 05/26/2006 : 18:44:38
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with KID A, i feel like every sound.. the notes, tones, everything... is perfect, and exactly how they wanted.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 18:45:55
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quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome
It's a played out record but Nirvana's "Nevermind" sounds pretty close to perfection production wise in my opinion. Best drum sound I've ever heard on record.
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i think it sounds cheesy
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 19:01:02
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Albini does drums really, really well. It's basically down to micing them properly with really good mics, all simple things but done so, so well. I don't think he gets the rest of it as right though - his vocals aren't always the greatest.
That said, check out his albums with low, which actually disprove my point.
didn't albini only produce 'things we lost...' from low?
i really like albini's drum sound too on many records, but he just destroyed it on mogwai's 'my father my king' - they sound horrible.
i think the best production of any record i can think of is Pod by the Breeders. yes, an albini production....just perfection.
but my favourite drum sound is on the beginning of '2 rights make 1 wrong' from mogwai's 'rock action'. i used to listen to the intro over and over again on my really good components and it blew my mind every time...that was produced by dave friedman i believe...which is weird cause everything else he's done has been poor.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2006 : 04:44:46
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My Bloody Valentine, 'Loveless'.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2006 : 06:57:57
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quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome
It's a played out record but Nirvana's "Nevermind" sounds pretty close to perfection production wise in my opinion. Best drum sound I've ever heard on record.
Cobain felt Nevermind sounded a little too slick and poppy, not that he was knocking Butch Vig, it's kind of how he felt after Nirvana's success, I think. He seemed to have wanted to go back to a rwwer sound, hence Albini.
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2006 : 08:36:21
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quote:
Originally posted by benji
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Albini does drums really, really well. It's basically down to micing them properly with really good mics, all simple things but done so, so well. I don't think he gets the rest of it as right though - his vocals aren't always the greatest.
That said, check out his albums with low, which actually disprove my point.
didn't albini only produce 'things we lost...' from low?
i really like albini's drum sound too on many records, but he just destroyed it on mogwai's 'my father my king' - they sound horrible.
i think the best production of any record i can think of is Pod by the Breeders. yes, an albini production....just perfection.
but my favourite drum sound is on the beginning of '2 rights make 1 wrong' from mogwai's 'rock action'. i used to listen to the intro over and over again on my really good components and it blew my mind every time...that was produced by dave friedman i believe...which is weird cause everything else he's done has been poor.
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2006 : 10:20:31
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quote:
Originally posted by misleadtheworld
Ooh, no, wait, Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea. I love those distorted acoustics on that album.
Very awesome.
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www.myspace.com/doog = solo choons
www.myspace.com/casabonitaband = noisey stuff
www.myspace.com/weevilknievel = surfrockpop geekery
www.myspace.com/ukpixiestribute = Nimrod's Son |
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2006 : 00:11:41
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Siamese Dream by the Smashing Pumpkins
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2006 : 01:40:55
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Originally posted by IceCream
You don't like the way Mercury Rev's records sound?
to be honest, my statement was a little of an exaggeration. i haven't heard enough of mercury rev's stuff to form an opinion about that - i was stating it from his work with mogwai - particularly come on die young and rock action.
it's just that the drum intro on 2 rights juyst blows everything else away....
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
411 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2006 : 21:20:29
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-=Apesy |
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mcil
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 05/29/2006 : 04:48:10
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Pixies - Surfer Rosa
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
However, I really don't like the production of Bandwagonesque by Teenage Fanclub: there is a distinct lack of oomphiness in the guitars (apart from I think 'Is This Music?' was done really well.) Anybody else think the same?
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2006 : 09:19:43
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I actually closely listened to the production on Doolittle a few days ago, some of the drum, (specifically snare) sounds were horrible! Proof that if the song and performance is good enough, it doesn't matter how it sounds.
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www.myspace.com/doog = solo choons
www.myspace.com/casabonitaband = noisey stuff
www.myspace.com/weevilknievel = surfrockpop geekery
www.myspace.com/ukpixiestribute = Nimrod's Son |
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1485 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2006 : 15:00:28
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quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
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Originally posted by HeywoodJablome
It's a played out record but Nirvana's "Nevermind" sounds pretty close to perfection production wise in my opinion. Best drum sound I've ever heard on record.
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i think it sounds cheesy
FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th
No, it sounds hottttt. Steve Lillywhite also produces some good sounds.
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2006 : 15:21:28
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I've had more than one live sound engineer play Queensryche's Empire as he was dialing in our sound checks. I'm not a huge fan of Queensryche, but I guess it's commonly known as the most perfect rock record soundwise.
We could argue all day about the best produced record. It comes down to a sound that you find interesting enough to listen to over and over. Great songs typically get lumped into the "great produced" category, as well. That's why I have a difficult time deciding if any, or all of FB's music has been helped, or hindered by producers. They're all great, interesting, songs. |
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marcus4realius
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Posted - 05/31/2006 : 05:28:47
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| Frank Black's "Frank Black" orange album I think has very tight and wonderful sounding production. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2006 : 05:54:55
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Originally posted by IceCream
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Originally posted by benji
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Albini does drums really, really well. It's basically down to micing them properly with really good mics, all simple things but done so, so well. I don't think he gets the rest of it as right though - his vocals aren't always the greatest.
That said, check out his albums with low, which actually disprove my point.
didn't albini only produce 'things we lost...' from low?
i really like albini's drum sound too on many records, but he just destroyed it on mogwai's 'my father my king' - they sound horrible.
i think the best production of any record i can think of is Pod by the Breeders. yes, an albini production....just perfection.
but my favourite drum sound is on the beginning of '2 rights make 1 wrong' from mogwai's 'rock action'. i used to listen to the intro over and over again on my really good components and it blew my mind every time...that was produced by dave friedman i believe...which is weird cause everything else he's done has been poor.
all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
You don't like the way Mercury Rev's records sound?
I really like Dave Fridmann's work, that guy can fill out a record. See also, Flaming Lips, and the new Low album (again with the Low...), that sounds great to my ears.
I did an assignment on Steve Albini as part of my degree - it was great to turn up the volume and kick off Kerosene in front of a room full of kinda nerdy tech-heads.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2006 : 06:08:52
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Hey Cheeseman, while we're talking about Low... Don't know if you're aware of this but Carla Bozulich (one of my favorite female artists) just put out a record on Constellation with a bunch of guys from Silver Mt Zion, and there's a cover of Low's "Pissing" on the album. Thought you might be interested. I haven't heard it yet.
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2006 : 06:11:09
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What about the "worst production on an album ever"? Surely it has to be something by Nigel Godrich. The guy has the ability to turn every other album by artists I like into something blander than a Dave Matthews Band record.
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2006 : 06:22:07
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Originally posted by vilainde
Hey Cheeseman, while we're talking about Low... Don't know if you're aware of this but Carla Bozulich (one of my favorite female artists) just put out a record on Constellation with a bunch of guys from Silver Mt Zion, and there's a cover of Low's "Pissing" on the album. Thought you might be interested. I haven't heard it yet.
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
Sounds pretty nice, Denis. Silver Mt Zion are pretty ace as well, might look into that.
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