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hickster9
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 Posted - 05/24/2006 : 06:07:49
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No, it's not some new Frank Black song coming out that somehow, forum-lurker that I am, managed to get ahold of before all of you...no, I'm talking about a concept in which a song (or two) is played to a fetus while in the mother's womb. The idea is that this song is played quite often beginning just after development of ears, beginning with the fifteenth week, and, once the baby is born, you can play it when they are fussing and it will calm them down. I heard about it through a friend, who tried it, and swears by it's results.
So, we get to the ultimate point of my topic: I am going to be a father in December (scary, and exciting). I wanted to come up with a Frank Black or Pixies tune that could be a womb song. My wife isn't a huge fan (yet, still working on that), so it will have to be something she can stand to play toward her belly a bunch of times, and also after the young Hickster is born. Certainly on the list is Sir Rockaby, since it is, well, kind of a lullaby. But, I wanted to see what you all might have for advice. Thanks, and go to it! |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 06:18:21
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Excellent! I have the exact same thoughts as you (twin babies to be born in November). My first idea was to expose the babies to constant listening of Japanese hardcore punk, but for some reason the mother is against it. So I might turn to Frank Black lullabies instead.
Denis
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 06:33:29
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SLEEP.
(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. )) |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2006 : 06:47:15
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I'd go for Rock music. A more sensible person might go for something like Coastline.
"The arc of triumph" |
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =
USA
398 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2006 : 07:10:06
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We played "Down in the Hole" off the Snake Oil b-sides album quite a bit for our baby boy. No real reason, just that my wife really liked the songg and would play it every morning to him on her way to work. He's now 10 wks,...so far, so good. I always envisioined making a Frank Lullabye mix, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
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hickster9
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USA
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 07:57:57
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quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
twin babies to be born in November
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
Congrats...let me know what song you decide to use!
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Originally posted by 1965
SLEEP.
(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. ))
Yes, a good one...do you suppose there is any subliminal messaging that I would be attempting if I use that one? Hmmmm 
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Originally posted by pixiestu
I'd go for Rock music.
"The arc of triumph"
Kid's probably going to think his mouth is a mile away from food!
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Originally posted by martha_promise
We played "Down in the Hole" off the Snake Oil b-sides album quite a bit for our baby boy. No real reason, just that my wife really liked the songg and would play it every morning to him on her way to work. He's now 10 wks,...so far, so good. I always envisioined making a Frank Lullabye mix, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
I guess I am going to have to go the iTunes route to hear that one...haven't as of yet. Thanks for the suggestion! |
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 14:34:34
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Here Comes Your Man could be a nice womb rocker. Spesh if it's gonna be a boy :D
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jaylst
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USA
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 15:42:44
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| Maybe motorway to roswell? It has that nice keyboard part at the end. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 16:16:39
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This will be me taking this thread too seriously.
As a parent I think it's better to let the kids discover music on their own. I listen to the music that I like with my kids around, but they also listen to Sesame Street, Annie soundtracks, and all of that kid stuff. I just mostly worry that pushing my music on them will 1) cause them to not like or 2) make it not special when they're truly old enough to enjoy it and appreciate (it'll just be the music they heard all the time when they were young).
What is gained by playing Frank Black for the kids? |
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beckett trance
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 17:11:04
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Seems like "Violet" on Honeycomb is the closest FB song to a lullabye.
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =
USA
398 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2006 : 19:01:43
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Originally posted by darwin
This will be me taking this thread too seriously.
As a parent I think it's better to let the kids discover music on their own. I listen to the music that I like with my kids around, but they also listen to Sesame Street, Annie soundtracks, and all of that kid stuff. I just mostly worry that pushing my music on them will 1) cause them to not like or 2) make it not special when they're truly old enough to enjoy it and appreciate (it'll just be the music they heard all the time when they were young).
What is gained by playing Frank Black for the kids?
I don't think anyone is really trying to gain anything or is necessarly pushing music on their kids. At least we aren't. My wife and I, like you said, listen to music that we like, which usually includes a moderate dose of Frank Black. However, we also listen to Sesame Street and other kids stuff.(we're all really digging Little Bunny Foofoo, right now) At 10 wks old though, it's a bit difficult for him choose what he wants to listen to, but when he's old enough he'll be free to do just that. I agree with you, that forcing music down kids throats is only going to turn them off to it. I don't think anyone in this thread is doing that and would agree that playing a variety of stuff and letting them acquire their own tastes is the key.
Here's a quote from Frank on kids music.
"WELL, I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHILDREN'S MUSIC, HELL, I GOT ELMO ON ALL THE TIME, BUT IN GENERAL I FIND THAT IT'S FUN JUST PLAYING THEM STUFF THAT YOU MIGHT LISTEN TO, MAYBE MORE ON THE MELLOW SIDE, BUT KIDS DIG LEONARD COHEN, TOO. OF COURSE, TMBG ALWAYS DRIVES 'EM WILD."
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 19:39:15
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Bird Dream of the Olympus Mons.
"Between [Honeycomb] and Olympus Mons, Frank's children will have a unique perspective on the birds and the bees." |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2006 : 22:33:43
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Originally posted by martha_promise
I agree with you, that forcing music down kids throats is only going to turn them off to it. I don't think anyone in this thread is doing that
You mean like broadcasting it to them while they're in the womb? |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/25/2006 : 01:14:58
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The Beatles were kind of subliminal. Only when I was old enough to understand and appreciate the music did I realise the memories certain songs evoke. Happy memories of my childhood, and of my dad. The drives home late at night while I fell asleep / watching him strum along to the record player.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 05/25/2006 : 04:41:54
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congrats hickster! we've got a fb/pixies baby mix ourselves. sir rock of course, ana, big red, pie in the sky, and speedie marie are a few. we've got a few kids cd's but our little girl really loves dancing around to just about anything with a good melody. recently she loves the yeah, yeah song by the flaming lips. it's complete brainwashing at its best! she was in the no phase for a while and then we would play this song 24/7. now she only says ya!
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/25/2006 : 05:00:30
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Our first child was hard to put to sleep at night for his first 3 or 4 months. The one Frank Black and the Catholics song that helped him and us the most was 'Announcement'. The whole song is so mellow and soothing. Try it.
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =
USA
398 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2006 : 07:02:54
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by martha_promise
I agree with you, that forcing music down kids throats is only going to turn them off to it. I don't think anyone in this thread is doing that
You mean like broadcasting it to them while they're in the womb?
Point taken. In lieu of the title of the thread, I was more referring to pushing music on them once they're born.
We never did the headphones on the belly thing or intentionally played music to him in utero. If people want to though, I don't think it's a big deal.
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hickster9
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USA
98 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2006 : 06:27:03
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Thanks for the great suggestions gang.
Just to clarify, the point of the womb song isn't so much that I want to force Frank Black or any other artist on my child, it's that the fetus hears it while in the womb and it is soothing, like the mother's voice. So, later on, when played it will be soothing to the child. I'm told it works well.
I also believe that we shouldn't be forcing our beliefs, likes, dislikes on a child, but feel strongly that it's something you can't avoid. I intend to enjoy the same music, sports, movies, activities that I do now, and share them with my child. That doesn't necessarily mean that he/she will become a swimmer, love hockey and music, or, for that matter agree with me politically. I can recall my parents playing John Denver, Neil Diamond, Mendelssohn and the Kingston Trio...not all my favorites now, but my parents enjoyed it and I can appreciate it.
As parents we are supposed to structure the learning, not force it one direction or another. My child will be free to choose whatever music, sports, hairstyle, clothes she/he wants to. At the same time, I won't be changing my habits: suddenly finding religion, listening to rap, enjoying basketball, liking hot weather, etc. We should be who we are, if the child turns out to like the same stuff as it's parents, that's swell. If not, doesn't mean that we failed as parents.
Okay, enough derailment. Any other songs? The song my wife favors, that our friend used, is Van Morrison's Into The Mystic, which is fine, I just thought I might try something from everyone's favorite artist. (hint, hint, more!)
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Dear Mr Echo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/26/2006 : 08:04:28
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The Swimmer comes to mind but I don't think you could get a more suitable song than Sir Rockabye.
"Some people have a way with words... other people, not have way." |
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2006 : 08:42:57
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quote:
Originally posted by hammerhands
Bird Dream of the Olympus Mons.
"Between [Honeycomb] and Olympus Mons, Frank's children will have a unique perspective on the birds and the bees."
Yes. |
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2006 : 04:34:32
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VALENTINE & GARUDA is also worth a go I think. Good luck with H Jr.
(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. )) |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
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Posted - 05/31/2006 : 05:38:32
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beck's "seachange" is a very calm, yet very deep and satisfying album. would be nice for a womb.
fb womb tune ? sleep, although a cover, is of course perfect. "every time i go around here" should do the trick too.
can't tell why, but i think that "don't ya rile 'em" was written to be a womb song. it has some being-in-a-womb (or/and wanting to get back there) - perspective. honestly.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
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Posted - 05/31/2006 : 11:28:36
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Originally posted by two reelers
beck's "seachange" is a very calm, yet very deep and satisfying album.
That's a real grower.
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black franciscan
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 17:04:03
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I'm making a 'Mellow Black' compilation as we speak for 'nipper no 2'...
We used to play Sea Change to my daughter all the time when she was new born and it always calmed her down.
Now she's two and she wants Bear in the Big Blue House!
Which, I have to say, is a marked improvement on Barney! I'm for free will as much as the next person but we weened her off that, I was getting a tick!
My mind is like the ocean...
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 18:47:23
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i would avoid playing Wilco to your unborn child, if you're concerned with them having developmental issues later on
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
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Mister Dog
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Posted - 06/17/2006 : 01:46:54
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Maybe play Dog in the Sand (the song). Also, my little 3 year old cousin loves Up on the Sun by the Meat Puppets (I can sort of see why, the music's very playful). Also Lightning Song by Queens of the Stone Age and One Foot in the Grave by Beck might be good. And don't let your kid watch all those dumb PBS shows. I grew up watching Ren & Stimpy and The Simpsons and my parents would constantly play music like The Butthole Surfers and The Minutemen, and my taste in music is better than anyone else that I know (that's my age).
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mostasteless
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Posted - 06/17/2006 : 19:17:03
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I second the being raised on ren and stimpy. I wouldnt mind havin a kid if only as an excuse to go out and buy all those amaaazing disney and wb cartoons I remember so fondly from my childhood. My earliest memories are of watching Daffy Duck's Quakbusters along with some peter paul and mary tapes. ANyways, I would use the dis/wb cartoons to prime him up, then WHAM hit him with the ren and stimpy at age 3. Of course I will buy him his first Strat at the same age, so that he can learn the Ren and Stimpy theme as we watch it.
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