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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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 Posted - 05/04/2006 : 02:05:09
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Last saturday I bought Sonic Youth reissue of their first self-titled EP. Contrarily to their recent reissues, that one was cheap, hehe. The 5-track EP is remastered (and it sounds great) and the bonus tracks are a 7-song live from 1981 and a studio demo for I Dreamed I Dream.
I saw SY live recently (they played material from their upcoming album for the first time) and I was mildly disappointed, they mixed new songs that sounded nice but IMO lacked the noise, screams and larsens I like from their 80's records, with very old songs from Confusion Is Sex (Brother James, Making the Nature Scene...) that were awesome. The first SY ep is really cool, 5 killer tunes (that's The Burning Spear, I Dreamed I Dream, She Is Not Alone, I Don't Want To Push It, The Good and The Bad) that sound both weird and very listenable. Really good purchase, at bargain price.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 05/04/2006 : 02:58:01
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There at least one song from the new album that they played live (called Incinerator or something) that's a killer. Reminded me a bit of Sunday from 1000 Leaves.
Where did you see them? La Route du Rock? Every review I've read from last month's gig was very positive, so maybe it's just me. I wasn't in the mood I guess.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 05/04/2006 : 05:15:46
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I heard the new song Denis spoke of, "Incinerate," on Mike Watt's radio show, The Watt From Pedro Show (www.twfps.com). I thought it was pretty good, but a little too slick. I'll wait until i let the album soak in because at first i didn't really like SONIC NURSE, but now i really love it. Their albums are all growers.
-Brian
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Posted - 05/04/2006 : 05:45:38
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I hear bad things about them live. Still looking forward to seeing them in December though.
Denis, you sure have been buying a lot of music lately.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 05/04/2006 : 07:04:42
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Actually not. It's just that I hadn't bought a single CD in a whole month and I couldn't resist anymore, so I went to the store and bought 5.
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 05/04/2006 : 21:42:14
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- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
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Posted - 06/06/2006 : 19:52:01
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http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/view.php?id=12342
MUSIC
Sonic Truth
Are the indie icons shit hot or simply shit?
by Steven Wells
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Brian McManus
As every good little hipster knows, the mighty Sonic Youth are set to grace our fair city once more, in celebration of 25 years of ... well, what, exactly?
Depending on how charitable you're feeling, we're talking 25 years of continually pushing boundaries, endless innovation and effortless cool. Alternately, we're talking a quarter-century of inflicting some of the most self-indulgent, atonal art-wank ever unleashed upon an unsuspecting public.
It's a tough call, kids. So we've left it to two of our finest hacks to duke it out in an epic battle of who gives a shit. Let the battle begin.
By Steven Wells (swells@philadelphiaweekly.com)
Every music hack worth his salt leaves in his wake legions of spittingly furious fans of shit bands-like the stout lad who shouted out my name while I sat on a tube train. I looked up, smiled, waved. Fatty stood on the opposite platform, pointed to a CD of U2's greatest hits, and roared, "Cunt!"
The shittier the band, the madder the fans. So it should be no surprise that, despite the fanatical attentions of Travis, Morrissey, Stereophonics, Pixies and Belle and Sebastian partisans, hell hath no fury like a Sonic Youth fan scorned.
I once wrote a review that stated the utterly irrefutable fact that Sonic Youth are rubbish. It was like firing a flare gun into a rainforest canopy jam packed with psychotic howler monkeys. Even now, years later, they gibber and froth and toss their fecal matter in my general direction. This might lead one to conclude that Sonic Youth are in fact the shittest band ever. And one would be right.
My first encounter with SY came when the skinny Nietzsche-quoting, bleach blond, black-clad skinny lad who fancied himself the New Musical Express office intellectual reverently placed one of their LPs on the communal turntable.
"This has no tunes," I said.
"It's punk, you deaf bastard!" sneered the po-mo ponce.
"And yet it also lacks polemic, originality, wit, dynamic or indeed anything to suggest this isn't muzak churned out by aliens who, having studied the popular music of earth, reveal themselves as soulless replicant automatons through their inability to recreate an even vaguely passable pastiche. Aaaargh! Fuck! Stop stabbing me!"
For it was then that poodle-boy attacked me with a letter opener. The war has continued ever since.
Sonic Youth are a sacred cow dressed in the emperor's new clothes. They simply put out almost impossibly bad album after impossibly bad album, and are worshipped for it by a vast army of aesthetically insane poltroons.
I once concocted a theory that Der Yoof are in fact session musicians in the employ of some sinister avant-garde musical genius who instructed them to make "alternative" rock music that lacks all the characteristics that distinguish "alternative" rock music from, say, wallpaper paste. But that would just be too interesting.
I met Sonic Youth once. Thurston Moore turned out to be a smug prick. Being a smug prick myself, we got on well.
We argued about art. I pushed social surrealism as an alternative to the tired old ploy of repeating Duchamp's urinal gag again and again.
He looked confused, and said I was insane. At which point I realized I was dealing with an intellectual fetus.
Summarizing the encounter, I wrote that not only was all Sonic Youth's music rubbish, but they were old and smelled of piss. Several thousand finger-sniffing fanatics screamed "Blasphemy!" I've been on the run ever since.
By Brian McManus (bmcmanus@philadelphiaweekly.com)
All right. All right.
Are you finished, you old British coot? Sheesh. With all the spittle and fury you've set aside for Thurston and the gang, you'd think Sonic Youth danced the jig on Princess Di's grave, or worse, invented socialized dentistry.
Your thoughts about them are so terribly misguided and poorly informed, I hardly know where to start. Or if I even need to, since you seem perfectly willing to choke on a hairball made of your own snap judgment.
Ah, I'm no doubt sounding like your skinny, bleach blond chum back at the NME office. Let's keep this reasonably civil and take it point by point.
So mega-fans of Sonic Youth are annoying. No shit. What band doesn't claim annoying fans?
But just as I don't hold Jimmy Page responsible for every guitar-teching milquetoast dweeb who's ever fancied himself a glorious soloist, I don't blame Sonic Youth for the tiny bit of their fan base who seem intent on overintellectualizing them.
Why let those asswipes color your entire perspective on the band? The people still condemning Sonic Youth with the "noise band" noose haven't paid attention to them since '85's Gila Monster Jamboree. Some of their music today is downright ethereal.
No tunes? What about "Catholic Block," "Wish Fulfillment" and most obviously, "Teenage Riot," to name just three? Those are, if you'll allow me to don your bowler for a sentence, some solid bangers, mate. Downright hummable, even.
Sonic Youth are true mavericks, innovators and pioneers. Name another band that's been around as long without having to sacrifice an ounce of their integrity or creativity.
They practically wrote the book on how to both succeed on an independent level and deal with a major label. Hell, Geffen is practically their bitch.
And this is all on top of the band's influence, the scope and depth of which is too huge to get into here.
It's fitting that you hate SY, Steven. It wouldn't seem right otherwise. If it were up to you and your pop puppets, every song ever written would sound like a goddamn commercial jingle.
"I Feel Like Chicken Tonight" would be high art so long as they threw in the word "cunt." Such narrow-mindedness should be the calling card of the soulless bean counters who run major music, not those who write about it.
Sonic Youth
Wed., June 14, 8pm. Sold out. With Be Your Own Pet. Starlight Ballroom, 460 N. Ninth St. 215.769.1530. www.r5productions.com
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Broken Face
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Posted - 06/06/2006 : 20:01:53
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I'm seeing them w/ the Yeah Yeah Yeahs in Brooklyn in August. I'm excited.
-Brian
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 06/06/2006 : 23:35:01
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The new album played in the record store yesterday and I liked it a lot. Unfortunately it was sold €18.99, so I bought a bunch of other cheaper cool stuff instead.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 06/07/2006 : 04:19:26
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I'm seeing them w/ the Yeah Yeah Yeahs in Brooklyn in August. I'm excited.
-Brian
What a cool gig.
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Broken Face
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Posted - 06/07/2006 : 06:32:37
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What's even cooler is that its held at an old public swimming pool - so the fans stand inside the pool, and the band is outside the pool. It seems very surreal and cool. I'm also going to see Neko Case/Joanna Newsom there later in August.
Oh, and has anyone bought the Ciccone Youth reissue? Its great - one of my favorite SY side projects...
-Brian
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 06/07/2006 : 06:37:11
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What's on the reissued version? I only bought the new edition of the first LP cause all the others are so damn expensive.
Denis
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Broken Face
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Posted - 06/07/2006 : 06:41:42
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it's the same as the original, just remastered/packaged - but since i never owned the original, just had a burned copy, i bought it.
it was only like 9 bucks in California, where i bought it.
-Brian
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mcil
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Posted - 06/07/2006 : 07:26:51
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I'm really looking forward to Rather Ripped, I really like Sonic Nurse and I have a feeling oit will be very similar.
I got the reissue of Psychic Hearts by Thurston Moore a couple o months ago, that's superb.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 12:08:27
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http://www.metronews.ca/entertainment_cd_review.asp?id=16813
CD Reviews
Published June 14, 2006
Sonic Youth's usual rawness, with a melodic twist
Sonic Youth
Album: Rather Ripped
Label: Geffen/Universal
Released: Yesterday
**** (out of five)
Had this been 20 albums and 25 years ago, this New York post-punk foursome wouldn’t even dream of deliberately sounding this melodic.
With their Velvet Underground-fuelled austerity and feedback-laden dischordancies, Sonic Youth helped cement this kind of do-it-yourself template for which the likes of the Pixies, Breeders and, to some degree, the Smashing Pumpkins would follow.
As you’re finger-snapping along to Reena, Incinerate, Do You Believe In Rapture? and The Neutral, singer-guitarist Thurston Moore, his bassist-singer wife Kim Gordon, guitarist Lee Ranaldo and drummer Steve Shelley refuse to compromise on any DIY rawness.
But Sonic Youth truly let the indie-inspired momentum fly on Sleepin’ Around, closing track Or and the two Gordon-led efforts What A Waste and Jams Run Free, the latter powered by a Pumpkins-a-la-1979-esque rhythm. Wailing feedback is kept to a minimum — until all hell breaks loose on Rats.
IAN NATHANSON/METRO TORONTO
Live in Washington, D.C., 9.30 Club, last night (June 15):
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5480397
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 15:51:28
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 15:56:19
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I'm really looking forward to Rather Ripped, I really like Sonic Nurse and I have a feeling oit will be very similar.
I got the reissue of Psychic Hearts by Thurston Moore a couple o months ago, that's superb.
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Why does Kim have stubble?? is it meant to be Kim?? I don't know
(How the hell do you quote an image?? I can't figure it out)
"Your Bone's Got a Little Machine..."
Because Kim is Kurt Cobain?
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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Posted - 11/02/2006 : 10:21:46
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http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003315040
Kim Gordon Crafts Film, Sonic Youth Preps Rarities
October 25, 2006, 5:00 PM ET
Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.
Sonic Youth principal Kim Gordon will offer the U.S. premiere of her film, "Perfect Partner," and participate in a live performance of the soundtrack this Friday (Oct. 27) and Saturday at Montclair State University in Montclair, N.J. Gordon will be joined on stage by her husband/Sonic Youth partner Thurston Moore and longtime collaborators Jim O'Rourke, Ikue Mori and Tim Barnes for the screenings.
"Perfect Parter," which Gordon assembled in tandem with artist Tony Oursler and director Phil Morrison, is a road movie reflecting her obsession with the ad copy in car brochures. "Ad copy is this existential, contemporary philosophy that doesn't mean anything," she tells Billboard.com. "But the brochures are so sophisticated. They really stretch and try to be poetry and art."
For the movie, footage of actors Michael Pitt and Jamie Bochert plays on one screen, while "psychedelic landscapes" are projected on another screen behind it. The musicians perform the live score in between the two screens, thus creating what Gordon describes as "a kind of 3-D movie in the way the two screens work together. The actors disappear sometimes, and sometimes it is just abstract landscapes with music."
"Perfect Partner," which debuted last fall in London, runs for about 55 minutes. Gordon hopes to enlist an entirely different cast of musicians to play the score at future performances, but before that, she wants to at least stage screenings with the original ensemble in Manhattan in Los Angeles.
Meanwhile, Geffen will on Dec. 12 release "The Destroyed Room: B-Sides and Rarities," which will fulfill Sonic Youth's contract with the label. Gordon says Moore and drummer Steve Shelley have been in charge of the project, which will feature a blend of tracks from vinyl singles, compilations and international releases as well as material seeing the light of day for the first time.
Asked if Sonic Youth would consider re-signing with the label for which it has recorded since 1990, Gordon says, "I don't really think they want us to stay. They fired a few key people working on [the band's 2006 album 'Rather Ripped'] a week before it came out. Our A&R person -- he worked on our last record with us, and that was the first time we had an A&R person in five years, but we liked him. Also a marketing person who had really good ideas. So, I don't know."
Gordon is also unsure if a potential move away from Geffen would affect the planned expanded reissue of Sonic Youth's landmark 1988 album "Daydream Nation," which is thought to be in the Universal Music Enterprises pipeline.
For now, Sonic Youth will focus on touring, beginning Dec. 8 with the Nightmare Before Christmas festival in England, which Moore is curating. Visits to South America, Japan and China are in the planning stages for next year, and Gordon reports that Moore is working on material for his next solo album.
Kim Gordon
http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2006/10/3108.cfm
Sonic Youth Rarities Album May Be Last With Geffen
Tuesday October 31, 2006 @ 06:00 PM
By: ChartAttack.com Staff
Sonic Youth have revealed the songs that will appear on their forthcoming album, The Destroyed Room: B-sides And Rarities.
The record will be released by Geffen on CD on December 12 and a double-vinyl version will be made available early next year on the band's own Goofin' Records label. It will include tracks from foreign album releases, B-sides and previously unreleased material.
The Destroyed Room is the last album that's part of Sonic Youth's current contract with Geffen, their label home since 1990, and it's unknown whether the band will resign with the label or search out a new deal elsewhere. Bassist/vocalist Kim Gordon doesn't seem optimistic about continuing with Geffen, according to a recent interview she gave to Billboard.com.
"I don't really think they want us to stay," she said. "They fired a few key people working on [2006 album Rather Ripped] a week before it came out.
"Our A&R person — he worked on our last record with us, and that was the first time we had an A&R person in five years, but we liked him. Also a marketing person who had really good ideas. So, I don't know."
Here are the songs on The Destroyed Room: B-sides And Rarities:
"Fire Engine Dreams" (Sonic Nurse outtake, previously unreleased)
"Fauxhemians" (from All Tomorrow's Parties 1.1)
"Is It My Body?" (from Alice Cooper Tribute)
"Razor Blade" ("Bull In The Heather" B-side)
"Blink" (from Pola X soundtrack)
"Campfire" (from At Home With The Groovebox)
"Loop Cat" (from You Can Never Go Fast Enough)
"Kim's Chords" (from Sonic Nurse Japan edition)
"Beautiful Plateau" (from Sonic Nurse Japan edition)
"Three Part Sectional Love Seat" (from The Noho Furniture Sessions, previously unreleased)
"Queen Anne Chair" (from the Noho Furniture Sessions, previously unreleased)
"The Diamond Sea" (Washing Machine LP version)
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
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Posted - 11/02/2006 : 13:30:23
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Sonic Youth is a crap band. I used to listen to them, enjoy some of their creepy songs. I used to enjoy the creepy effects of Marijuana too and Sam Fox as a kid 'cause she had those big tits. Now I speak english and I surrender to the evidence. Their songs mean nothin', it's full of f***** nothin'. On stage they are boring like alcohol free beer. This band is one of the greatest ripp-off of American pop non-culture. Their influence over poor geeks from the suburbs trying hard to sound cool with their detunes cheap guitars and their glasses is disastrous. They invented nothing.
They suck. Point final. Nirvana sucks too.
Long live the Pixies.
www.myspace.com/oldskoolpariscool
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Posted - 11/02/2006 : 15:29:39
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Joey, you need to take a cold shower!!
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Levitated
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Posted - 11/02/2006 : 16:49:26
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For now, Sonic Youth will focus on touring, beginning Dec. 8 with the Nightmare Before Christmas festival in England, which Moore is curating. Visits to South America, Japan and China are in the planning stages for next year, and Gordon reports that Moore is working on material for his next solo album.
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Posted - 11/03/2006 : 03:35:52
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Hello, Yes indeed I'm in a bad mood, but unfortunetly I think at least half of what I said. Especially about their influence over youth. In Paris you have 90 percent of those pseudo punk band who are merely duplicating those no-so- cool riffs from diRty and washing machine period and pretend they are not influenced by Sonic Youth when you gently come and ask them if they don't feel they simply have nothing to express.
In my opinion you judge a band according to their contemporary influence. Same for politics.
I could even start to feel bitter towards the Velvet Underground.
It's all cause of Paris... maybe.
Haaa! I want to shit all over that pop culture. Time for a change and new references!
Shit over Europe!
Spread the news around the Frank Black Forum!
Burn your rock magazines and formate you hard drive.
I'm Joey Joe Jo. Bip you.
Votez Bayrou.
Listen to NEU.
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Posted - 02/05/2007 : 16:16:38
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I've considered myself a non-fan of Sonic Youth for awhile, but I've never paid that much attention to them. I've owned Daydream Nation before (on the Geffen CD), but, honestly, never listened to the whole thing (and got rid of it years and years ago). However, while trolling about the local used bookstore today, I found it on vinyl and thought that was a good excuse to give it another go. It was $20, but I figured could easily make that back (and more) on ebay if I wanted to get rid of it.
It's really good. Finally, at 30 years old, after having "experimented" with Sonic Youth before in college while feeling my way through the whirled of kool muzik and never getting attached, I think I'm a Sonic Youth fan. I'll be aiming my ebay bidder sights on Sister on vinyl soon (I used to own that one on CD, too).
Daydream Nation appears to be one of those double albums (like Exile on Main Street and Trout Mask Replica) that I could never get into on CD, but, on vinyl, I totally enjoy. Maybe it's the enforced side break intermissions or the usual vinyl fetishist bullshit.
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Posted - 02/06/2007 : 11:37:41
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 02/07/2007 : 01:06:54
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I have it both on CD and vinyl. For some reason that record never did much to me, although I used to be a massive SY fan. It's often considered as their best album but I much prefer Sister or EVOL over it. I really don't know why, maybe it's the length. I should give it another try.
Denis
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Posted - 02/07/2007 : 04:26:34
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I found Daydream Nation the easiest SY album to get into, along with Dirty.
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