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scruvs
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 04/19/2006 :  02:03:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you heard a Live version of a FB song that has made you like an FB song that you didn't like so much before? Or maybe it made you really like an FB song that you thought was just okay before?

1. Los Angeles - This was actually a grower for me, and it wasn't until I heard the live version on the Nadine EP before I realized how much I like this song. Something about the distortion and the bass in the live version brought it all together for me.

2. Robert Onion - I used to get bored with the layers and layers of layers and layers, but after hearing it at Cafe Du Nord in SF and feeling the layers and layers of energy during layers and layers of layers and layers, it all made sense.

3. Nadine - Something about hearing this on ifc.com with just 2 guitars and without the drums, watching FB's head sway back and forth, I finally got into the rhythm.


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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  02:10:38  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
bullet for me.
the version of dits is good, but not fantastic. whereas when i heard the version on the recording from amsterdam (28-11-2003), i was just blown away. totally new appreciation

and also freedom rock. almost all of the live versions i've heard of this song blow the album version out of the water. loved alot of the versions from the 2003 shows where nhe often opened the gig with it....brilliant.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  02:22:06  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scruvs
1. Los Angeles - This was actually a grower for me, and it wasn't until I heard the live version on the Nadine EP before I realized how much I like this song. Something about the distortion and the bass in the live version brought it all together for me.



This is quite funny, given that for some reason you only get half of the song on that EP...
Good thread by the way. This has happened to me many times. Agree with Jop re: Bullet, much better live.
The Farewell Bend: as said in the other thread, the live version from 2003 at Slim's is truly mindblowing and opened my ears.
The Last Stand of Shazeb Andleeb: not my fave track from Cult of Ray, but the live on the IDWTHY ep is a killer.
New House of the Pope: hearing it live acoustic before SMYT came out, with Frank's explanation of the song, gave it a whole new meaning.


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  02:45:54  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Brackish Boy live blows me away
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The Holiday Son
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France
2010 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  05:27:52  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Snake : I wasn't very fond of this track until I heard a faster live version in 2003.

Hermaphroditos : Not a big fan of the studio version either, but live, this song really rocks.
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  05:36:38  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

Brackish Boy live blows me away


yep the fast/electric version!


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vilainde
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Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  05:39:38  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
But Brackish Boy doesn't really count cause I already loved it on the album. The live version HAS to be on Cult's "best Frank mix ever", I already mentioned it and I expect full support from you guys!


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  05:47:22  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There's a nice 4-minute version of "Brackish Boy" on the "Tune In, Turn On" bootleg. But Denis is right (for once!), that song is great, whether live or studio.

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vilainde
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Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  05:52:06  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ouah l'autre eh


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  06:27:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whiskey In Your Shoes
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Holy Fingers
- FB Fan -

USA
149 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  07:20:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are only 2 Frank Black songs that I have trouble getting into. Jet Black River and Llano Del Rio. Unfortunatly their live counterparts could not change my opinion of these songs. Each of them are just slightly too 'country-ish' for my taste.


"When you've done something right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  07:25:24  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would second the live version of Brackish Boy. Still don't like it as much on the album, but I used to skip it. :/

I'd also second Whiskey in your Shoes, which I never really disliked, but it never grabbed my attention until I saw it live.

And to add a number to the list, I Want Rock & Roll was always blah to me but good lord does it ever punch you in the face live!!!


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  07:28:43  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Jumping Beans - So much more fun LIVE!


"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"
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vilainde
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Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  07:47:04  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks CultofFrank for the idea:
Goodbye Lorraine. Not the best track on SMYT, but I have this video of Frank playing it solo acoustic, and that stripped down version is really cool. Yeah, it's pretty straightforward, but it makes an excellent folk song.

Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =

USA
618 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  07:54:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank FB for his solid musicianship as well. Otherwise, this thread would not be possible.
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
535 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  08:39:59  Show Profile  Click to see a guy in a rover's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas

Jumping Beans - So much more fun LIVE!


"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"



Amen to that brother!
The Kitchen Tapes version is infinitely better that the Oddballs version.

A pig or a goat well, they wouldn’t let you be mistreated


Edited by - a guy in a rover on 04/19/2006 09:25:00
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =

Germany
729 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  09:10:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Adda Lee. I never cared much about that song until one day I listened to the Black Is Beautiful bootleg on my way around the town. Franks energetic performance (ok, and the screaming) really hit me. Frank was really into it and I hadn't expected that much energy from that song, I guess. I was standing at a bus station and listened to it over and over again. Now I even like the album version. A lot.

I bleed. Didn't get into that song until jumping and screaming to it on the Berlin gig two years ago. Ahh. That was fun.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  10:36:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The capital L made me think you meant a cover of an FB song by the band Live, scruvs!!

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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  11:19:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Solid Gold
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FranknWeezer
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  14:03:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fiddle Riddle simply rocks live w/ slide steel. Nothing like the semi-bland original.
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The Holiday Son
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France
2010 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  14:07:33  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

Thanks CultofFrank for the idea:
Goodbye Lorraine. Not the best track on SMYT, but I have this video of Frank playing it solo acoustic, and that stripped down version is really cool.


Yep. I didn't care much for the song either before I heard this version.
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  14:38:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2006 :  09:50:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Happening

Free the Heel!
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2006 :  10:50:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mosh Don't Pass the Guy.

I didn't like it until I heard the live version with Lyle's superwicked axe-tion and the yelling.


Does anyone remember laughter?
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IceCream
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2006 :  15:12:13  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

And to add a number to the list, I Want Rock & Roll was always blah to me but good lord does it ever punch you in the face live!!!

That's funny, seeing as though it was played very rarely on the Pistolero tour. It made more frequent appearances in later tours. I wonder why.
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Omer
= Cult of Ray =

275 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2006 :  23:13:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually it is really strange because normally I get into people's songs after I hear them live. But Frank is regularly the exception. I love his songs before I heard them live, and after, equally, despite the great memories. Still:

The Holiday Song: Heard this one back in 1999. I didn't think about that one that much before, but it's a killer.

If It Takes All Night: Simply rocks much, much harder live.

I Need Peace: Killer version in Oxford, England 2003. I'm still not a fan of this song, but that was extraordinary.

Gauge Away: the Live version is so much superior to the Album one.

Wave of Mutilation: UK Surf. 'Nuff said.

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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  03:08:28  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
the rocking Black Letter Days, performed on FB&TC last UK tour - I like it on the album, though think the live version is superior.


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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
391 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  11:22:20  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mrgrieves1971

Solid Gold



This post made me go through my bootleg collection, and I came to the conclusion that I don't have a single recording from 1995 to 2000...
Which means I don't have a single recording of Solid gold performed live.
I can't believe I realised this before, since Solid gold is one of the few songs that make me play air guitar, do silly dances and all these weird things you do when noone is around.
So... if anyone could upload a good live version of this song, or tell me at what shows it was played, I'd be very grateful.



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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  18:13:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Solid Gold. He opened a show at Avalon in Boston with it. I think it was November 2003. BLD tour. They came out to All the Tired Horses, were kind of playing along with it and then Frank played the opening riff. I remember Dave McC and Dave Philips really rocking out to it. That's when I said "Hey, this is a great song."

Edited by - mrgrieves1971 on 04/21/2006 18:16:08
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Omer
= Cult of Ray =

275 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  12:30:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Couldn't have been November 2003. He was in Europe.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  14:22:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Omer's back. Haven't see that name in ages.
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =

USA
408 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  17:30:55  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Skeleton Man. Didn't fit into the album and I didn't like it for a long time. It's feckin' awesome live.
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
411 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  17:42:42  Show Profile  Visit Apesy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mrgrieves1971

Solid Gold. He opened a show at Avalon in Boston with it. I think it was November 2003. BLD tour. They came out to All the Tired Horses, were kind of playing along with it and then Frank played the opening riff. I remember Dave McC and Dave Philips really rocking out to it. That's when I said "Hey, this is a great song."


That was actually on November 27th, 2002. My first Frank show.

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