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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 04/20/2006 :  11:58:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7441 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  01:19:07  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
YOU SKIP FAZER EYES? Boy, what a miserable life you must live. How the hell can you keep breathing without Fazer Eyes' spectacular end solo?


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  03:14:44  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, the FE solo should be celebrated as the 8th wonder of the world and taught in every guitar school between Mercury and Pluto.

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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  04:11:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mercury was a singer, not a guitar player, and Pluto is a dog. Get your references right!

The experts they file in by the roomful / Watching him dying young

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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  04:33:55  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Saturne pas rond chez toi :)

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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  04:41:30  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ones i skip -
black rider 1+2
blast off
whispering weeds
1826
85 weeks through to skeleton man on pistolero
jaina blues
everything after big red on teenager of the year.
i don't wanna hurt you - terrible song

just off the top of my head.
haven't included anything from the yellow album or fb&tc's cause haven't listened to them for ages. so could probly include them both in the list.




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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  08:03:16  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow. That post has to be one of the most offensive I've ever read! :)

Anything on Teenager? Blocks of songs on Pistolero. To me if you're skipping blocks you probably have to listen to that part of the disc more. Yellow album? Psh.

In seriousness though, I'll concur that I only occasionally listen to Blast Off and even less often to 1826. I know a lot of people don't like the Black Riders, but I enjoy them a lot. Just fun little diddys.


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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  08:08:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow, to think anything on TOTY could be skippable :s
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  08:14:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benji

everything after big red on teenager of the year.



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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  08:24:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i also don't get why whispering weeds is so disliked
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7441 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  08:30:22  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It always amazes me how many people criticize Blast Off and 1826. "Oh yeah, I love Frank Black and rock and roll but when he gives me the best 3-guitars solos that ever graced the surface of this planet I skip them." Have you all been brainwashed or what?


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  08:37:31  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benji

ones i skip -
black rider 1+2
blast off
whispering weeds
1826
85 weeks through to skeleton man on pistolero
jaina blues
everything after big red on teenager of the year.
i don't wanna hurt you - terrible song

just off the top of my head.
haven't included anything from the yellow album or fb&tc's cause haven't listened to them for ages. so could probly include them both in the list.



Don't wonder if FB skips Australia :)


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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  08:41:58  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

It always amazes me how many people criticize Blast Off and 1826. "Oh yeah, I love Frank Black and rock and roll but when he gives me the best 3-guitars solos that ever graced the surface of this planet I skip them." Have you all been brainwashed or what?




The problem with 1826 is not the 3-guitar solos, it's the 4 minutes before them...

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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  09:19:17  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
crikey,
quite the offense has been created.

to be honest. the early frank records were a disappointment to me (this is coming from a being a pixies fan and then having frank black come along). i listen to alot of live recordings from the 1993/4 era and enjoy them alot more than the yellow album. the production on that just doesn't sit well with me. and i think that the first 11 songs on teenager of the year + a couple of the 2nd half would make quite possibly the best album ever released (they released a promo album for teenager, which was called 'selections from teenager' - the tracklist (11 tracks i believe) on that is awesome from memory), but the way it is, i perceive alot of the 2nd half as letdowns after the 1st half and filler, which i despise.....

but i was probly a little harsh on fb+tc's. i honestly haven't listened to that album in entirety for atleast a couple of years, cause when it came out i was terribly dissappointed with it. however, most of the songs popped up on a frank black music marathon i was having today and they have certainly heightened my interest....so i'm definitely going to rediscoved that album. but once again, i thought the production detracted from the songs on that album. don't get me wrong, i love the 'live-to-2-track' thing, but i just don't think it worked on their first attempt.

it's bizarre seeing me saying that i skip so many on pistolero, which i think of as one of my favourite frank records. the tracks from 1 thru to so hard to make things out are phenomenal, but i feel it loses it's flow with 85 weeks, and i struggle to regain interest until so.bay comes on.

and for blast off. for me personally, the opening 3 seconds of a song are crucial to the listening pleasure i get out of a song. if the first few seconds annoy me, pretty much the rest of the song is ruined. i know thats stupid, but thats how i feel. and blast off fits into that category. i often feel i should edit my version so it starts differently, cause i think i'd then have a totally different view of the song. i feel the same about serene on limbo by the throwing muses - great song, but opening 2 seconds grates me, so song ruined. i just can't get over it.


here's the selections from teenager cd i was talking about.

Edited by - benji on 04/21/2006 09:27:23
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  09:35:19  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

It always amazes me how many people criticize Blast Off and 1826. "Oh yeah, I love Frank Black and rock and roll but when he gives me the best 3-guitars solos that ever graced the surface of this planet I skip them." Have you all been brainwashed or what?




The problem with 1826 is not the 3-guitar solos, it's the 4 minutes before them...

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"The following tale of me is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No." (The Simpson Files)




He's not the premiere frog just because he's the only one with 'frog' in his username!


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  09:37:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've never liked 1826 but Blast Off is fucking fantastic. The shortest 7-minute song of all time!

No offense intended benji, but I'm still having a hard time thinking about skipping the last five tracks of Teenager. They are five of the most essential Frank tracks of them all. If I had to, I'd happily ditch all my Pixies records forever to keep those five.

Edited by - BLT on 04/21/2006 09:37:59
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  09:38:02  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Understandable Benji, don't worry, no real offense, was just teasing.


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =

USA
618 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2006 :  12:47:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This thread reminds me of American Idol. It thoroughly offends my tastes and intelligence, but I can't stop watching it.
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2006 :  05:03:26  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
no worries. am just a believer of 'you don't have to like all songs to be a fan' which i know some people don't consider because they like ALL the songs.
example - i am a huge huge mogwai fan, however they also have for me the worst song ever written. it's called 'with portfolio' and it grates my ears like nothing on this planet. can honestly say i haven't listened to that song in 6-7 years, and i know that no revisiting it will ever change my opinion. just fucking horrible.

but this thread has made me revisit many frank albums i haven't listened to for a while, which is proving quite the revelation.

and BLT, i agree that after the start, blast off is incredible, but the start just ruins it for me.
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Mad Lucas
- FB Fan -

Australia
144 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2006 :  06:56:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is back a bit, but I find Silver is very important to my experience of Doolittle as an album. Kim's willingess to keep sparse and peculiar just slots in wonderfully before the short-and-sweet-ish Gouge Away. It gives this wonderful change of texture, of pace and of just general feel. It's almost like a tension and resolution.

You're Such a Wire, not a super dooper song, its pretty good except the backing vocal in the chorus is terrible and this pops up in a few songs. Pitch is one of the few things im not willing to compromise when listening to 'raw' music that I suppose is produced through live recordings.
I don't skip tracks because I find something interesting in all of them. I'm sure Frank could put out 'perfect' songs all the time, however hes playing what he wants at the time, without too much developing and changing, which is why he's so great.

Personally, I find his Pixies work more appealing than his later work, simply because that's the sound that I seem to naturally crave, and it's the most original sounding stuff i've heard.


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houstonguthrie
- FB Fan -

187 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2006 :  22:30:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow - I can't believe some of the tunes that you guys don't like

"All My Ghosts" and "Atom in my Heart"???!!

and "666"????

but there you have it - to each his own I guess

but for me - it's gotta be "Robert Onion"
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beckett trance
- FB Fan -

USA
170 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2006 :  22:52:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone who doesn't like "Blast Off" is going to send me on a Beckett Rant.



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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  01:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Robert Onion >>>> 666
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  03:17:40  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Darwin, I disagree. There are far too few greater than signs in that post. In my opinion they're not even comparable. :)

Sorry Houston.

I'll second your disbelief at All My Ghosts if it makes you feel better.


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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 04/23/2006 :  12:10:27  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm not a huge fan of most of the early Pistolero tracks, excluding "Western Star." They're not bad, but they're all kind of similar, and they don't really show off how interesting Frank can be.

I have to agree that "1826" isn't a particularly good song, and not just because of the guitar solo. Honestly, though, I don't like extended guitar solos much. I LOVE "Blast Off," though. Possibly the best opening album track EVER. And I usually don't like it when albums start with long songs, so that's saying something. It doesn't feel anywhere near as long as it actually is.

"Jane, The Queen Of Love" is overrated, but it's not bad. As for "Fazer Eyes," I think it's my least favorite TotY track, but that's like saying someone's the world's tallest midget (apologies to TMBG).

I might skip some of these songs if they come up when I'm listening to music randomly, but I have to REALLY hate a song to skip it when I'm listening to an album in its proper sequence, and no Frank songs fall into that category. If I set out to listen to BLD, I'm jolly well going to listen to BLD, not BLD minus two or three tracks that I don't like quite as much. Besides, sometimes a song will grow on me, and I'd never know it if I skipped it every time.



"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares."
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  12:27:06  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Violet is just horrible. I just don't get it at all.

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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  15:13:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fu Manchu. Most of Honeycomb.

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i try to be mallory but i'm still skippy
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The New Bolero
= Cult of Ray =

394 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2006 :  15:54:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone mentioned Debaser yet? Please put me down for that and Thalassocracy.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2006 :  10:52:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're winding me up, Bolero!!


Edited by - Carl on 04/25/2006 18:12:42
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
565 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2006 :  22:31:41  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow. Some of these skips are unreal. I am confused.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2006 :  03:19:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The scene
Solid Gold
Heloïse

That's about it
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2006 :  03:36:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I usually skip Headache, Los Angeles, Freedom Rock, Czar, Robert Onion, All my Ghosts, End Of Miles, His Kingly Cave, Nadine, Bullet, Massif Centrale, Thalassocracy and Sing For Joy.
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/25/2006 :  04:55:41  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by remig

Headache, Los Angeles, Freedom Rock, Czar, Robert Onion, All my Ghosts, End Of Miles, His Kingly Cave, Nadine, Bullet, Massif Centrale, Thalassocracy and Sing For Joy.



Tar and feathers for Rémi!

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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =

USA
618 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2006 :  09:12:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fake skip lists. Has to be. Freedom Rock? 666? Ghosts? Atom? Los Angeles (this is the clincher)?

Who hired you to stir up the members?

Was it Nickelback?!?! I KNEW IT!! Damn you, Nickelback.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2006 :  18:13:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What's your favorite least favorite Frank song?!

;)

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