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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
 Posted - 04/11/2006 : 12:26:44
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I've been debating among my various personalities on these massive "list" threads and their contribution to the forum, positive or negative.
I've come to the opinion that their impact on the forum is ultimately negative. First of all, many of these threads contain posts that in themselves could and should be topics. Particularly threads like "What are you listening to/last CD you bought/etc". They are cool ideas in theory, but what I observe to happen there is that it becomes people just listing their latest purchase and no real conversation related to the posts. Sometimes you'll get people chiming in that they like/want to buy/etc that album, but otherwise, very little going on.
My preference would be to have people who really are enjoying an album they picked up or an album they've loved forever, or something that is on their mind that they feel worthy of sharing with others to do so and start a thread on it. As examples.
Feel free to offer your own perspective... I'm contemplating deleting or actually, better still, locking the ones that are deterents to starting independant and worthwhile threads. That way you can still go back and read if you like and I can unlock them after a while if it seems to be a mistake. But I don't think so. I can't be the only one who couldn't be arsed to participate in/read these monstrously large threads.
Obviously if massive public opinion is in favour of leaving as is, I will reluctantly do so.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 12:36:04
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lock them, lock them, lock them!
I honestly think that these threads go on too long and you're exactly right in that they contain nothing often but statement rather than discussion. They're intimidatingly huge and impersonal. Let me lock one go on please! please! (if popular opinion votes that way of course.)
please!
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I tried doing that once, making every minute count. It gave me a headache.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 12:37:33
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lock 'em. The forum has slowed up a lot and I'm convinced those threads have much to do with it.
That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.
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Fartbone
- FB Fan -
USA
171 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 12:37:49
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Your personal debate will decide? Talk about a democracy.
Horale Cabrones |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 12:42:58
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Um, the reason I'm asking for public opinion is because that is what will decide.
"Obviously if massive public opinion is in favour of leaving as is, I will reluctantly do so."
"Illiteracy is not forever. Learn to read today!" |
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 12:55:04
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Why not. I say try it. If it can help boost forum life, great. And if it doesn't, I don't think we'll miss these threads that much anyway.
Hit that "Delete" button Tre, you know you want to!
The experts they file in by the roomful / Watching him dying young
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 13:23:08
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if you lock the "topics you were going to start but didn't" thread we'll have no choice but to start a topic for each of the unstarted topics.
do you really want that?
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” - General George S. Patton |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 13:36:09
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this has been an issue since at least 05/02/2005
'Too many mind numbingly boring threads' that is
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 13:37:20
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Heh, funny, I looked at that one and wondered the same thing. :)
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
281 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 13:39:36
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Originally posted by floop
if you lock the "topics you were going to start but didn't" thread we'll have no choice but to start a topic for each of the unstarted topics.
do you really want that?
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” - General George S. Patton
That topic started off great, but just became conversations between forum members that happened to be in speech marks. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 13:41:53
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I say delete'em.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 13:42:06
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quote:
Originally posted by toeknee
[quote]Originally posted by floop
if you lock the "topics you were going to start but didn't" thread we'll have no choice but to start a topic for each of the unstarted topics.
do you really want that?
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” - General George S. Patton
it's still better than the Holocaust thread
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” - General George S. Patton |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 13:50:53
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IMHO only the total losers will complain if those threads are locked. Lock 'em all and let's find out who cares.
 Does anyone remember laughter? |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:00:00
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
if you lock the "topics you were going to start but didn't" thread we'll have no choice but to start a topic for each of the unstarted topics.
do you really want that?
Yeah, a lot of those threads were gonna be started for real.
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1734 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:14:33
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:17:52
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Originally posted by BLT
IMHO only the total losers will complain if those threads are locked. Lock 'em all and let's find out who cares.
Does anyone remember laughter?
i disagree. i think only the winners will complain
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:32:30
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Yeah I say lock them. Some of them were good for a while, but they are all pretty dead now.
EDIT: Oh but I would keep/start one though where people can babble because otherwise we may just get too many shitty topics flooding the place. I'd prefer to, and have other people, babble on about nothing important in a single thread rather than starting one to do it. I mean there is no point in someone starting a 'I Like Cheese On Toast' thread.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:46:12
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I'm not really bothered which threads get deleted or locked or whatever but I was just wondering if the 'Whatever Happened To Pong?' section of the forum will still be here. After all, if threads are being deleted due to lack of discussion then most of the threads in that section should go shouldn't they?
And I agree with HPM about having one thread where people can babble. Y'know, for stuff not really worthy of its own topic but still worth mentioning.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:48:30
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hmm. i don't really think the fact you like cheese on toast is worth mentioning. unless you made it a thread devoted to cheese on toast, ways the make it, and so on. innit.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:49:01
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Yeah I agree that 'Whatever Happened To Pong? needs a big clearout.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:50:55
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
hmm. i don't really think the fact you like cheese on toast is worth mentioning. unless you made it a thread devoted to cheese on toast, ways the make it, and so on. innit.
what kinds of cheese do you think taste best on toast?
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:58:14
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dunno, but i just made me some after homers mentioned that... used extra mature cheddar.
you?
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Fartbone
- FB Fan -
USA
171 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 14:59:14
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this thread is going to grow into wildweed
Horale Cabrones |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 15:10:07
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I don't really see where the problem is with the long threads. I read some (new CDs, upcoming concerts, and a few others) and avoid the ones who don't interest me that much (drinks, what are you listening to, etc...). I'm sure that other people have other preferences and there is constant posting going on in those threads.
So why lock them? Where is the harm? |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 15:12:00
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
dunno, but i just made me some after homers mentioned that... used extra mature cheddar.
you?
i don't usually eat cheese on toast, but maybe i'll give it a try. lately i've been buying this English Muffin Bread. it's like regular bread, only made out of english muffin dough. good stuff. i would almost say it's as good as sourdough, which is my favorite
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 15:17:39
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I agree with Dean: it's pretty rare that people care enough about what other people have posted (say, in the what are you listening to one) to respond, and the only reason people keep checking is to see if anyone's replied to them. They could do with pruning, I would say. Obviously, you can't insist that people justify every post in detail, but it does get a bit boring if someone just keeps on posting in it over and over for no real reason.
That said, not all the big threads have the same malaise. The upcoming gigs one is pretty informative and worth checking. Most of the others I could live without though, especially the What's On Your Mind, I'm ashamed of it (like a ginger child, as was once put to me).
 I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid |
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chineselover
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
348 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 15:26:15
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| Nobody reads the 'what i'm listening to now' i don't think... i tried starting a thread about 'other genres' etc which did get a great responce and i think people did have a look to see what others where listening outside of rock'n'roll... but threads like that die pretty quickly too |
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Fartbone
- FB Fan -
USA
171 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 16:07:54
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Let's get rid of general chat, that will solve everything
Horale Cabrones |
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *
Uzbekistan
1013 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 16:10:46
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It would be nice if we had a "Don't Display This Topic" option. That way it's up to the individual reader. Too bad there's probably some technical reason why that can't be added, or am I being a pessimist... Just a thought....
The Cult of Frank : Gimme Gimme Gimme...I Need Some More |
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 16:53:41
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| Lock them. |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 17:00:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Steak n Sabre
It would be nice if we had a "Don't Display This Topic" option. That way it's up to the individual reader. Too bad there's probably some technical reason why that can't be added, or am I being a pessimist... Just a thought....
The Cult of Frank : Gimme Gimme Gimme...I Need Some More
This is a very good idea if it is possible.
"The arc of triumph" |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 18:31:33
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Dean and i were talking about this last night. I think that those threads are basically there for two reasons - to read your own comments and to up your post count. Obviously, this is a broad generalization, but there are certain members who's majority of posts come from those 'list' threads, and i maintain that just adding to a list is not participating, its mainly self-serving. I am as guilty of this stuff as anyone else, but i think a purge would help. I would even prefer new massive threads to pop up, because at least they'd be inspired.
Simon, as much as i do read the "upcoming gigs..." thread, i think it would be much better for the casual reader to check Gen. Chat and see a thread called "Sigur Ros in London This Week" than to have to page through random posts to scour if there is in fact any info about said show. Does that make sense?
-Brian
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2006 : 20:08:28
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the forum could stand some fiber?
*chant* ......LOCK THEM......LOCK THEM......LOCK THEM |
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 04/12/2006 : 00:04:21
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Originally posted by Broken Face
Dean and i were talking about this last night. I think that those threads are basically there for two reasons - to read your own comments and to up your post count. Obviously, this is a broad generalization, but there are certain members who's majority of posts come from those 'list' threads, and i maintain that just adding to a list is not participating, its mainly self-serving.
Well, that's a whole other issue, that can be resolved easily by getting rid of these post counts and leaving only the little bees next to the username.
Massive threads: let's see... I'd say lock them, except the "bought any CDs recently" one. That one has a bit more discussion in it than the others. Oh, and I enjoy the "I just watched" thread too.
Denis
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 04/12/2006 : 01:11:21
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quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face
Simon, as much as i do read the "upcoming gigs..." thread, i think it would be much better for the casual reader to check Gen. Chat and see a thread called "Sigur Ros in London This Week" than to have to page through random posts to scour if there is in fact any info about said show. Does that make sense?
-Brian
Makes very good sense.
I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid |
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