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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  22:09:34  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your ass. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and, uh, Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  22:22:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

no jacket required. I can feel it in the air tonight was my favorite song from from age 8-10. Maybe the best drum roll in modern history.



I can feel it coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord
I've been waiting for this moment, all my life, Oh Lord
Can you feel it coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord, Oh Lord

Well, if you told me you were drowning
I would not lend a hand
I've seen your face before my friend
But I don't know if you know who I am
Well, I was there and I saw what you did
I saw it with my own two eyes
So you can wipe off the grin, I know where you've been
It's all been a pack of lies

And I can feel it coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord
I've been waiting for this moment for all my life, Oh Lord
I can feel it in the air tonight, Oh Lord, Oh Lord
And I've been waiting for this moment all my life, Oh Lord, Oh Lord

Well I remember, I remember don't worry
How could I ever forget, it's the first time, the last time we ever met
But I know the reason why you keep your silence up, no you don't fool me
The hurt doesn't show; but the pain still grows
It's no stranger to you or me

And I can feel it coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord...



George Patton once said "A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow."
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2006 :  22:59:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


pas de dutchie!
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2006 :  08:50:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Different strokes, I guess. For my money, Genesis was mainstream junk after Gabriel left and Collins ran the show.

I'm glad others enjoy them.


I’m the only one who can say that this light is mine
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2006 :  11:09:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Until Nirvana came out, I loved Genesis and Phil Collins.
I liked a lot the Peter Gabriel era, and the Phil Collins too. Duke, self titled (with Mama on it) and Invisble Touch were cool.
In fact it's the first band I was listening and had all the album (on tape or cd).
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2006 :  11:26:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great to see people appreciate both American Psycho and Brass Eye.




I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place

Edited by - Homers_pet_monkey on 04/10/2006 06:38:12
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2006 :  19:19:30  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Today I found the new house/recording studio that my bandmate and I are going to move into. We've decided to name it "The Phil Colliny." We will name the recording studio in the basement "Su-su-studio." There's track lighting all around the living room, so I'm going to paint a dozen or so portraits of Mr. Collins and we'll hang them around the living room with the track lighting pointing at them, not unlike an art gallary. After checking out the house I was in a store and one of his songs played over their PA system. Then I come home and get online, only to find this thread. It's a sign. I'm not even really a fan of Phil Collins. It was just too tacky of a theme to NOT put into action.

http://www.prozacrat.com
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1462 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2006 :  19:34:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Great to see people appreciate both American Psycho and Brass Eye.



I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place




ha, ha! i knew i had read that phil piece somewhere before.
he also has some good lines on huey lewis and whitney houston.

Patrick Bateman: Did you know that Whitney Houston's debut LP, called simply Whitney Houston had 4 number one singles on it? Did you know that, Christie?
Elizabeth: [laughing] You actually listen to Whitney Houston? You own a Whitney Houston CD? More than one?
Patrick Bateman: It's hard to choose a favorite among so many great tracks, but "The Greatest Love of All" is one of the best, most powerful songs ever written about self-preservation, dignity. Its universal message crosses all boundaries and instills one with the hope that it's not too late to better ourselves. Since, Elizabeth, it's impossible in this world we live in to empathize with others, we can always empathize with ourselves. It's an important message, crucial really. And it's beautifully stated on the album.


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
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Posted - 04/10/2006 :  06:57:03  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
now I want to read it again.


Denis

I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  10:10:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah me too. And I would do if somebody had not kept my copy after they borrowed it (therefore they stole it).


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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1485 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  10:28:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The "Land of Confusion" video is pretty cool, with all the celebrity puppets. But most all of the Phil Collins Genesis stuff is pretty gay.

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"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity." - Henry Miller
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  10:30:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome

The "Land of Confusion" video is pretty cool, with all the celebrity puppets. But most all of the Phil Collins Genesis stuff is pretty gay.

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"I am a man who pisses largely and frequently, which they say is a sign of great mental activity." - Henry Miller



It doesn't make me that happy.


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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  10:59:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome

The "Land of Confusion" video is pretty cool, with all the celebrity puppets. But most all of the Phil Collins Genesis stuff is pretty gay.

That video turned me against Collins permanently. While I had always found the Collins-led music pretty lame, I had been a fan of early Genesis, . The scene in video where the senile Reagan pushes the nuke button was so adolescent, especially considering that it was the arms race that finally broke the back of the Soviet Union. Collins and those who think like him live in an inverted world, where strength means danger and impotence means peace. The sad thing is that the anti-Reagan hysteria is being played out again in the global reaction to Bush. In the past couple years rightwing blogs have made sport of this by reprinting glowing press reports of leftwing handwringing and then only at the end of the text revealing that the story is from the '80s and just appears to be the contemporary, same old tired response of those too muddle-headed to act until it is too late. Wrong then, wrong now, and apparently too lazy to learn a thing despite the lessons of history.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  15:36:20  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
wow, I never thought I'd see a political rant in a phil collins thread
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  16:38:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

wow, I never thought I'd see a political rant in a phil collins thread



Me neither. I don't think I could ever get worked up over something as bland as Phil Collins.
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Fartbone
- FB Fan -

USA
171 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  20:14:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome

The "Land of Confusion" video is pretty cool, with all the celebrity puppets. But most all of the Phil Collins Genesis stuff is pretty gay.

That video turned me against Collins permanently. While I had always found the Collins-led music pretty lame, I had been a fan of early Genesis, . The scene in video where the senile Reagan pushes the nuke button was so adolescent, especially considering that it was the arms race that finally broke the back of the Soviet Union. Collins and those who think like him live in an inverted world, where strength means danger and impotence means peace. The sad thing is that the anti-Reagan hysteria is being played out again in the global reaction to Bush. In the past couple years rightwing blogs have made sport of this by reprinting glowing press reports of leftwing handwringing and then only at the end of the text revealing that the story is from the '80s and just appears to be the contemporary, same old tired response of those too muddle-headed to act until it is too late. Wrong then, wrong now, and apparently too lazy to learn a thing despite the lessons of history.



What does your political mumbo jumbo have to do with Genesis? You eat and shit babble.


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