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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
 Posted - 03/18/2006 : 04:32:30
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None of this is breaking news, but...
At the age of 26, Tanya Donelly put out "Star"
after 4 albums w/ Throwing Muses & 1 album w/ the Breeders.
Kristin Hersh was 24 the year "The Real Ramona" came out
& 28 the year of "Hips & Makers".
FB was 28 when he put out his first solo record
& 29 for "Teenager of the Year".
Once you're in your twenties, 24 isn't some old person's age anymore, and you start to make some unpleasant comparisons.
"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14 |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
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Posted - 03/18/2006 : 05:59:47
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Why make comparisons? Thatīs their time, not yours.
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Gravy boat! Stay in the now! |
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 08:30:21
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I'm not a musician or anything, and I'm still young- I'm just impressed by people who do things with their time, espcially when they start early.
Thinking about this, though, has made me think that I shouldn't waste so much time. I'll still waste time, but now I'll think about not wasting it.
"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14 |
Edited by - jimmy on 03/18/2006 08:34:13 |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 09:54:27
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Owen's right, of course, but it's hard not to. Especially when you're younger and thinking, "I'm going to do something amazing" and time passes and you've done nothing that has any impact on anyone. But of course, that's not true either. We all have our various impacts, and even if we don't, as long as we are enjoying our lives, does it matter?
 "If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2564 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 09:58:11
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Everyone can have an impact. Even if it's just smiling at someone who passes in the street. It could change someone's life!
"The arc of triumph" |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 12:17:46
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"It's people like that who make you realize just how little you've accomplished. It is a sobering thought, for instance, that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years." -Tom Lehrer
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 03/18/2006 : 12:25:56
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Thanks for that quote, VoVat. When I was 22 a friend told me that Paul Weller had allegedly written "That's Entertainment" in 5 minutes one night when he was 21. I'm still not sure if that's true but I still recall that it bummed me out at the time. Now at almost 43, I find it laughable that I was that upset (and I was really reeeeeeeeeally upset). Now I keep hearing about people who did amazing things late in life, who in their 50s or 60s became famous or wrote wonderful novels or discovered new careers or talents, and I think to myself "Ech, I'd rather eat some chocolate and take a nap."
I got some heaven in my head
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 13:32:37
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When the Foo Fighters song "There Goes My Hero" came out, I remember people saying it was about FB, but I read somewhere he said it was about his dad and people like him, people who work hard and are solid and dependable. That's nice, and he's right, but someday in the near future I'd like to do things that people enjoy and even admire (I've always been solid and dependable). I'm sure it will happen and I'm in no hurry. Someday the name jimmy will be bigger than Madonna and it's not even my name.
"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14 |
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =
USA
451 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 14:38:27
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I actually look at it from the perspective of at what age did they start doing it for the money? LOL. J/K. (Not really.)
I agree Kathryn, some people's inspirations come early in life, and other's later in life. (Epiphanies?) It's just that, the people who "get it" earlier in life seem's more impressive because they did it without any life experience, as opposed to someone who "gets it" later in life. But I feel sorry for the ones who "get it" early in life, and then have to live the rest of their lives trying to live up to their past, (child actors, one hit wonders). |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 03/18/2006 : 14:45:48
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oh, so i've got another 5 years. easy.
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 17:30:32
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There's David Sedaris, who spent most of his life working shitty jobs and then became successful relatively later in life (he's not that old, though, he's only around 50). That's fine, but I'd like to be successful early so I can enjoy it while I'm still young and sexy. Plus, I'd like to minimize the amount of time I spend working shitty jobs.
Another thing, it's kind of unfair that people like FB and David Byrne put out excellent records- a lot of it better than their bands' albums- but they get almost no attention, mostly because they're not young and new anymore. If some unknown 24 year-old put out "Honeycomb" or "Grown Backwards" everyone would go apeshit over them.
"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14 |
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2006 : 20:58:00
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newO, I'm looking for something to read- I looked at Kenagain and the other places but I wasn't able to find yours. If you get a chance, let me know where I can read something you've done. Thank you, jimmy
"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14 |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 08:39:17
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Orson Welles made Citizen Kane at 26.
 "Chad's just a soul whose intentions are good/O Lord, please don't let Chad be misunderstood" |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 09:11:32
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You can get Jack the Ripper tour T shirts?
How wrong is it to want one? |
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 10:49:25
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newO, I read the others and just finished "Golden Boy"- that was excellent; I loved almost all of it. I wish I could see more. If you ever want someone to look over your work, I do editing for my friends. My e-mail is on my profile.
"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." JOHN 15:14 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 17:06:07
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Hal Ashby didn't start making films till he was 40. HAROLD AND MAUDE is better than CITIZEN KANE.
the moral of the story is, you've got plenty of time to slack off and do it later. have a beer |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 18:42:12
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I'm gonna wait till I'm 90 and become famous.
 pas de dutchie! |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 05:22:55
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Thanks Jimmy, glad you liked the story. Next time I have one out or feel it could use an edit Iīll let you know.
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Gravy boat! Stay in the now! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6288 Posts |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 12:28:32
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Brian Wilson was 23 when he made Pet Sounds, regardless if you like the record (I fuckin' do)
that album was a great produtional achievement (a subtle wall of sound), plus the music is pretty complex.
The fact that Brian worked alone as a producer (unlike the beatles) makes it even more mindbreaking
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God save the Noisies |
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MissMaceo
= Cult of Ray =
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 19:53:37
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I can't believe it's been so long since that came out. It's been like a lifetime ago....man.......
"I find that on the internet, everyone's very tough in an anonymous, pussy sort of way'" - Josh Homme. March '05 |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 20:23:35
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Plenty of music folks hit their artistic peak later. And then the fact that they're older is sometimes a part of WHY people like them so much. They're older and sort of "above" the twentysomethings, sometimes attracting an older, less fickle, more appreciative audience. And they're often more down to earth (or seen as such, at least) because they didn't spend their 20s in a spotlight. They were WORKING at a JOB and maybe even had a family.
Johnny Dowd was in his 60s he became a full-time musician. I don't know what he was doing in his 20s.
Robert Pollard of Guided by Voices was 36 when he not only hit his stride artistically, but also when he got noticed.
One of my very favorite musicians, Stew (of the Negro Problem, but his solo work seems to have eclipsed that), was at least in his late 30s when he started putting out records in the late 90s.
A lot country music guys didn't get going professionally until at least their 30s. |
Edited by - Jason on 03/20/2006 20:24:38 |
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1049 Posts |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 21:07:03
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Speaking of that former 24 year old: he is supposed to do a Q&A tonight according to his posts in the FB making noise board at 10PM pacific!
I tend to think of human beings as huge rubbery test tubes, too, with chemical reactions seething inside |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/20/2006 : 21:21:24
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Heh heh, that confused me too. It would seem our forum clock is wrong - it's currently 9:30 Pacific, isn't it?
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2006 : 13:13:24
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Well, it's good to know there's still hope for me, at 28! Too bad I can't sing or play any instruments.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2006 : 13:15:52
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I find your lack of faith disturbing.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2006 : 23:23:52
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What's with all the Star Wars qoutes lately?! :)
pas de dutchie! |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 04:37:56
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There is another?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 03/22/2006 : 04:58:49
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quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
Brian Wilson was 23 when he made Pet Sounds, regardless if you like the record (I fuckin' do)
that album was a great produtional achievement (a subtle wall of sound), plus the music is pretty complex.
The fact that Brian worked alone as a producer (unlike the beatles) makes it even more mindbreaking
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God save the Noisies
This is the most impressive one yet. I'm 23, I can barely tie my own shoelaces, let alone write, produce and perform one of the greatest albums of all time.
 I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 06:21:39
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Homer-Carl-Homer = Dean laughing.
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 14:13:31
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I KNEW Dean would appreciate it.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 03:18:16
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Depressing. I'm 24 in a few months and have done shit-all with my life.
www.myspace.com/doog = music
www.myspace.com/doogdoogdoog = emo |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 03:50:43
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I like your songs doog
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God save the Noisies |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 04:59:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Doog
Depressing. I'm 24 in a few months and have done shit-all with my life.
www.myspace.com/doog = music
www.myspace.com/doogdoogdoog = emo
I wouldn't say that. How about the music for starters?
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/23/2006 : 09:25:24
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Haha. I've written some songs, it's not like I do it for a living.
www.myspace.com/doog = music
www.myspace.com/doogdoogdoog = emo |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2006 : 09:28:30
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Oh well I tried. I guess you really do little.
I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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"Doolittle" was made by a 24 year old
