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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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 Posted - 03/01/2006 : 06:27:30
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Denis, they get filed by title, though, so Nadine has to be grouped together. But, not sure if you saw, there are two releases under Nadine. If you go down to the bottom of the Nadine page (or any album's page) you'll see "Other releases".
http://www.frankblack.net/songs/db3beta.asp?menu=ep&mode=release-details&releaseID=221
Adding 'appearances' would require a change to the core of the db, which I can't do, and also, since the tracks are cross referenced items and not just a list of unconnected stuff, to have a tracklist the way we do would require those song titles to be entered. Could be tricky but I agree with you.I have an idea though, for it... still will require change to the db core but not listing tracks/entering them into the db.
Finally, any missing info is appreciated. I'm giving that aspect back over to Tre now because I have to move on to updating the backend and other parts of the site, but she'll get it up, fear not. Plus, I still have to be the one to put the artwork in there, so I'll be doing that. She's getting me a comprehensive list of what we're missing based on Paradise's rather complete collection.
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
730 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2006 : 08:30:36
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119 Years Ago
Baby, they been* calling, calling and calling.
119 years ago
Neither here or there
Is it in her heart
Or in the middle of the air
Baby, they been* calling, calling and calling.
Im watching the TV
So can ye don’t be calling
Im screaming or sleeping or dreaming
Just leave me alone
Baby, they been* calling, calling and calling
Im reading a good book
So can ye don’t be calling
Im living a real life
So can ye just leave me alone
119 years ago
Neither here or there
Is it in my mind
Or in the middle of the air (x3)
Art is the child of Nature; yes, her darling child, in whom we trace the features of the mother's face, her aspect and her attitude.
-Beck
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2006 : 14:21:00
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OK, here's a question for you. Promo Singles. Do they get filed under singles or promos? I'm leaning towards promos, but your thoughts?
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2006 : 19:40:58
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OK, thanks to you guys, Paradise, and his extensive collection (really, I bet this rivals FB's brother's whose name is suddenly eluding me) I've got a _really_ good handle on a lot of this now. In fact, if you look all the way up to Cult of Ray (it takes time to cross check everything, resize images, upload, add data, tracklists, etc etc - I spent 3.5 hours just doing all the singles, promos, etc) you'll find a quite complete catalog including images for every different release. There is some really cool stuff that I've never seen before, including a UK TOTY promo that I have NO info about but has to be one of the coolest CD designs FB's ever had.
Anyway, I've got all your artwork on my pooter now, so thanks guys, and keep checking out mistakes, making suggestions, etc. It's really been EXTREMELY helpful (I probably wouldn't have gotten into this level of detail were it not for you guys).
I'm debating whether to classify that particular Black Session as a promo, Holiday Son, since the label doesn't list it that way... hmmm.
Anyway, all your suggestions noted, and I think I've covered everything in here except adding more lyrics and stuff post-COR era. Need Peel session art added, etc, etc.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 00:37:02
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Originally posted by The Holiday Son
* Another Peel Session EP :
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/8079/peel6vm.jpg
Number : SFPSCD 091 (Strange Fruit)
I bought it in France. And I've only seen the other one in the uk.
I didn't know this version had been released on CD. It's the cover of the 12" I have.
Denis
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 01:22:45
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I have this cd. It was released in 1995, only in France as far as I know. The UK version came out in 1997.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 01:28:36
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Originally posted by Frog in the Sand
lol. Vite Mado, Kafi est blessé!
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 02:01:06
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The version I have features 2 songs: "LA" and "Ten Percenter". And it's not American, it's French (and limited + numbered).
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 02:06:06
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Originally posted by vilainde
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Originally posted by Frog in the Sand
lol. Vite Mado, Kafi est blessé!
Moi je suis resté au Club des 5... en édition limitée et numérotée, of course :)
Au fait, y avait pas un Clan des 7, aussi?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 06:22:06
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OK, so there's a French one missing, Frog? Can you get me the catalogue number and any other relevant info. Presumably 4AD/Virgin?
Denis, you're saying there's a 12" of that other Peel session and Frog you're saying you DO have the CD?
Just trying to get it all straight. Thanks for double checking my work.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7446 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 06:28:37
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yup, there's a 12" Peel Sessions ep with the cover Frog posted. I'll send you the details when I have time.
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 06:59:00
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(picture courtesy of Holiday Son)
Recorded 5/14/94
Labels: Strange Fruit (© 1995) / BBC Radio (© 1994)
Cat # SFPSCD 091
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 07:00:01
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OK, you say that was released in '95?
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 07:00:52
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Sir yes Sir.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 07:18:32
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Interesting. I would've thought it was released later 'cause of the cat. #. Those crazy labels. Will fix that up when Denis gets me the 12" details.
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 12:57:30
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has anyone transcribed lyrics for the non-instrumental version of tossed?
are we including songs FB's done live and not appeared on albums? I can't think of any except tossed at the moment. One step beyond maybe (though it's another instrumental)... |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 12:58:22
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Nope, don't think so...
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2006 : 13:09:16
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If it appears on an album then yes. If not then no. Since Tossed appears on an album (even though instrumental) we should probably include the lyrics. One Step Beyond is in there because it was on a live release.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7446 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 00:06:25
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Interesting. I would've thought it was released later 'cause of the cat. #. Those crazy labels. Will fix that up when Denis gets me the 12" details.
12" ep
Strange Fruit (© 1995) / BBC Radio (© 1994)
Cat # SFPS 091
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7446 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 00:07:32
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Just noticed... The SMYT 12" LP wasn't released by Cooking Vinyl but by Diverse Records.
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 00:36:18
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I forgot to mention this rare cardboard sleeve edition of the orange album (yeah, orange, I think everyone will agree this time):
 
Oh, and just for fun, another rare item:
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7446 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 02:19:50
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It might not be the right thread to mention this but anyway. The expression "Song database" bugs me. It sounds nerdy. Plus when you go to the main page, if you're looking for a FB discography it's unclear that you have to go to the Song DB to find it. I think the "website directory" should say "Discography" or "Discography & Song Database". In fact, I think the whole website directory is unclear. I'll try to think of something.
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 06:29:25
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I'm actually with you on that, Denis, and when I did up the new beta I was thinking the whole time "there's got to be a better name". Discography is a good name, except it's obviously a lot more than that. I'm willing to take any suggestions for the sitemap/'website directory'. I plan to redo the whole main page at some point. You know, when my life as I know it now ends and I have abundant free time. :)
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7446 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 06:38:18
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This Bowie site calls it "Illustrated db Discography". Not sure it's a much better name though.
http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 06:53:24
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How about "Discography/Compendium" :)
Actually, we could call it an encyclopedia... discography should probably be in there, though...
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7446 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 07:54:49
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
I'm willing to take any suggestions for the sitemap/'website directory'. I plan to redo the whole main page at some point. You know, when my life as I know it now ends and I have abundant free time. :)
What do you think of:
Main Page
News
Tour Dates
Frank Black
Biography
Discography & Song DB
Gigography
Guitar tabs
Audio/Video/Pics
Podcast
Tribute Albums
Photo Gallery
FB Pic search on Google
Forum
Links
Official FB sites
Other FB sites
Email lists
About FrankBlack.net
Site Map
Who We Are
Friends of FrankBlack.net Club
Contact Us
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 13:59:38
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Hmmm... looking, thinking...
Still don't like Discography & Song DB. I take it you don't like Encyclopedia? My only problem with the pedia is that it doesn't encompass discography. Hey - my laziness may have just paid off! What if we called it a Discopedia?
Guitar Tabs- Eventually I'm thinking of moving them into the 'pedia too. No point in maintaining what is essentially a second discography minus singles. Thoughts?
Audio/Video/Pics - I like that grouping, but I'd call it Multimedia methinks.
Forum - would move it under main page.
Links - actually, I need someone to do this. I think I asked Carl at some point, but maybe not. Anyway, I need someone to manage the links if they're interested.
About - good call. That all fits there nicely.
In short, yes, I like that organization MUCH better, thanks.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 09:59:40
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Hmmm... looking, thinking...
Still don't like Discography & Song DB. I take it you don't like Encyclopedia? My only problem with the pedia is that it doesn't encompass discography. Hey - my laziness may have just paid off! What if we called it a Discopedia?
Yeah, or Qsdglkhfbnc if you're looking for something REALLY incomprehensible... :)
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Audio/Video/Pics - I like that grouping, but I'd call it Multimedia methinks.
sounds good
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Links - actually, I need someone to do this. I think I asked Carl at some point, but maybe not. Anyway, I need someone to manage the links if they're interested.
I thought Soren was doing this?
Denis
I love Guitar Wolf from the Erath! |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2006 : 10:03:54
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Heh, okay, so you don't like discopedia? :)
Nope, Soren's got a different and much bigger project - the Article DB.
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 10:56:03
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Originally posted by vilainde
About FrankBlack.net
Site Map
Who We Are
Friends of FrankBlack.net Club
Uh, will the Friends of FB.net Club rise from its ashes some day? I'm supposed to be a lifer!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11690 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2006 : 11:49:17
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I imagine so. That's one of those things I can't do anything about, but if it's any consolation, the site would probably be gone now were it not for the people (like you, and me in fact) who donated money. I'm crossing my fingers, Dave still has lots of prizes to be giving away...
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 12:46:41
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