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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06/15/2006 : 12:31:12
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Just got an email from play.com saying they had posted my order.
*feels excitement build*
A pig or a goat well, they wouldn’t let you be mistreated
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2006 : 05:05:04
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Wow, didn't realise there were going to be Catholics working on this album. Rich Gilbert, Dave Phillips and Lyle Workman all joined the party.
A pig or a goat well, they wouldn’t let you be mistreated
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
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Posted - 06/17/2006 : 06:00:18
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Bought FMRM today 17.6 ~ have given both CD's one listen each straight thru.
I don't understand what all the negative fuss was about, sounds pretty good to me so far...
(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. )) |
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Hatchetman
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Posted - 06/21/2006 : 03:27:04
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2006 : 10:46:30
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How strange. I just tried to listen to disc 2 of FM/RM in iTunes and it listed Fare Thee Well as 'Sad Mans song'. Earlier I played it in Windows Media Player and all the songs were listed as their corresponding tracks on disc one, whereas Fare Thee Well was simply called 'Track 14'.
Glitch!
Is anyone elses playing up in this peculiar manner?
A pig or a goat well, they wouldn’t let you be mistreated
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 06/22/2006 : 19:25:10
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| I bought it on CD and ripped it to my iTunes library, and the very last track was "Sad Man's Song" for me, too. But it's definitely "Fare Thee Well." |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/24/2006 : 05:34:26
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| 'The Monkey's Paw'. I've read this before. Is it Charles' publishing company? I'm sure I've seen it in relation to the Pixies songs, too. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/24/2006 : 08:29:36
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 06/25/2006 : 15:45:30
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Anybody else having trouble ripping a car copy? Tried just now for the first time and the four rips I tested from the two discs all had the same statical interruptions and dropouts. Have folks been able to rip these discs?
edit: same result with two softwares, iTunes & Switch, on a Mac
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 06/25/2006 : 16:24:40
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If it's "copy controlled" (aka crippled) then that's not surprising. You might have better luck with a program like CloneCD or sometimes even Nero is decent at copying. What these CDs sometimes do is write errors into the TOC that the players will generally ignore but when trying to take information from them digitally, will leave you with garbage or even an aborted attempt.
It's usually easier to just download in these situations from someone else who has taken the time to bypass this stuff. I am saying this only for people who already have the disc and are trying to make copies for themselves to protect the original, not for people who don't have a legit copy...
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 06/25/2006 : 17:18:17
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I was able to rip it with no problems with Exact Audio Copy (which is best program to rip with anyway).
¡Viva los Católicos! |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 06/25/2006 : 17:54:32
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Ah yes, I'd forgotten Exact Audio Copy...
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2006 : 09:56:30
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This morning it does burn OK with iTunes, so I guess I need to be wary of the discs I bought. Probably back-up the good rips I have. Funny because I've burned over a thousand CDRs, to include many rips. I did send a polite email to Back Porch, but I'm guessing they'll say the album is not copy-protected. Apologies for the distraction.
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2006 : 15:31:03
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Originally posted by Erebus
...I did send a polite email to Back Porch, but I'm guessing they'll say the album is not copy-protected. Apologies for the distraction.
Back Porch suck at replying to emails, good luck getting a reply..
(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. )) |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2006 : 16:29:18
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Actually Back Porch replied within a few hours, perhaps in part because they wanted to quash talk of copy-protection. Speaking for the US release, no copy-protection involved.
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2006 : 17:21:25
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If BP got back to you, that's good. From personal experience, they never replied to any of my emails.
Fyi, I have a EU/cooking vinyl CD and that is also not [DRM] copy controlled either. Looks like only some of the advance CD's were copy controlled.
(( I'm a Snake... cut in half 'cause I'm not the one you needed. )) |
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2006 : 17:51:50
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Originally posted by fbc
'The Monkey's Paw'. I've read this before. Is it Charles' publishing company? I'm sure I've seen it in relation to the Pixies songs, too.
The Monkey's Paw is Reid Paley publishing.
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Btw, further in regards to publishing: assuming Lone Child music relates to FB solo material post-Honeycomb, I am just wondering why Highway To Lowdown is associated with Spime Songs?
Maybe it got pulled from Honeycomb at the last second?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/26/2006 : 23:38:12
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You mean SMYT? Cause the Honeycomb songs were published under Lone Child Music too. Yeah, I wondered too why HTL was Spime Songs. It's not rare for Frank to release songs way after they're written though.
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2006 : 14:34:07
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My thoughts on FM/RM having listened to it quite a few times now (not that anyone cares):
Its a BIG improvement on Honeycomb. Im still not a massive fan of the 'Nashville era', but this a pretty good record. There's quite a few mediocre tracks on here, but also a lot of Frank Gold. I like the fact that it hasn't been scaled down to one record like many reviewers have suggested, because it gives the listener more choice. The vast number of tracks on FM/RM are wide ranging and diverse and listening to it is something of an enjoyable marathon.
However, I prefer the raw 2/track recordning method used by the Catholics over enlisting a shitload of legends anyday. Yes they may be legends, but just because you put them all in a room together doesn't mean they are going to make legendary music. Instead they end up sounding like polished session musicians and not a cohesive musical ensemble.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/01/2006 : 09:12:35
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just arrived form cduniverse, I listened for the first time, very good discs, i prefer disc 2, rocks more than disc 1, beautifull package.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 07/02/2006 : 02:41:36
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after a few spins:
I can understand that this is an album that meets a lot of negative reviews. But myself, I'm still dumbfounded by our Frank. Listening to Fastman, beautiful harmonies.
Not a big fan of double-albums myself, this is no exception I guess. Frank's voice is sometimes a bit off key, but that's all I got to bitch. I say back to the 2-track live method. He liked his singing better on those records, very weird, you would think he could pull it better off now.
But he still one of my favourite singers, his voice has such a great colour.
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Southbound Bevy
- FB Fan -
Russia
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Posted - 07/03/2006 : 02:19:43
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I have listened to FMRM several times. And it’s a good record and there are some nice songs. But I just want to repeat my last year’s opinion, when Honeycomb was discussed. Frank nowadays makes records that can not influence, draw new fans. It’s like he is producing music which is interesting to himself, and we his devoted followers have to listen, analyze and halfheartedly say that it’s fine and songs are nice, and count how many legends took part in making it. It’s just sublimation. We are discussing topics which are not relevant to the case. How many legends were there for Trompe le Monde or Pistolero? IMO FMRM is an ordinary album which wouldn’t have been noticed at all had it been released by some unknown musician. And of course it would be better to have 14 songs instead of 27.
In case anyone is pissed off. Sorry, didn’t want to offend anyone, just frustrated.
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a guy in a rover
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
535 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2006 : 07:03:00
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Originally posted by Southbound Bevy
How many legends were there for Trompe le Monde or Pistolero?
True dat. Many legends does not a great album make.
Kiss my ring...I am the greatest
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mixedbizz
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/04/2006 : 14:46:23
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Legends or no legends FMRM is a beautiful double album that I'm quite sure no one else in the world could have made. Does it really matter if it influences people or "draws new fans"? If it doesn't, that's their loss. FastmanRaiderman proves to me what I already knew, that Frank Black can do whatever the hell he wants. Nine times out of ten it's gonna be pretty damn good.
I was at Virgin Megastore in New York a few days ago, and low and behold FMRM is up there in the store's Top 30. Strange to see it wedged between Madonna and Busta Rhymes. I wouldn't be so sure the records aren't "drawing new fans". Someone's buying it. And every FB/Pixies show I see, there's always teenagers and new faces in the crowd. Good music crosses the lines of gender, race, and age.
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 07/05/2006 : 02:00:31
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Originally posted by Southbound Bevy
Frank nowadays makes records that can not influence, draw new fans. It’s like he is producing music which is interesting to himself, and we his devoted followers have to listen, analyze and halfheartedly say that it’s fine and songs are nice, and count how many legends took part in making it.
I think there are plenty of fans on this board that have expressed frustration with the direction FB's music has gone in the last few years, myself included.
I didn't care for the majority of BLD, SMYT, or DW. There are some songs that I threw on my "Best Of" lists, but as albums, they didn't do it for me.
I think it's true, we love the body of work that FB has produced as an artist over the last 20 years that we're willing to give anything he puts out a listen, but I don't think that there's any kind of blind adoration going on, especially on this board. We're willing to be critical, and I don't think anyone's forcing themselves to like something.
Look at anyone's top 10 list, and every one is different.
I am one that is willing to give everything at least a chance. FMRM is easily my favorite since Pistolero. I do agree that the use of session artists hurts it a bit. It sounds great technically, but some of the solos and arrangements do sound a bit predictable. I think it's too bad that some of these great songs didn't get a chance to develop and mature a bit.
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Southbound Bevy
- FB Fan -
Russia
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Posted - 07/05/2006 : 09:00:19
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| Well, I totally agree that “drawing new fans” is not the aim per se and I don’t care if my tastes are shared by many others. When I was saying it I meant that it’s a reliable indicator of worthiness of the music. If people go to the stores and buy CDs of the artist which career they have not followed it indicates that music worth it, there is a spark, there is a magic in it. FB now is just a shadow of his former creative self. His music and lyrics are way from “Why do cupids and angels continually haunt her dreams like memories of another life…” + music, if you understand what I mean. That was the pure magic. As to Virgin Megastore Top 30 position I think it could be secured by the people like we all are, old time fans. There’s no way around it for us. But I just can not imagine what song or songs from FMRM would inspire someone new to Frank Black to go to the store and ask for the album. Let’s ask ourselves if we would be interested in this artist if it was the first record we ever listened to. I wouldn’t. He plays on a field which is not his. There are people that do this country/ folk stuff much better. When FB sings Dirty Old Town duo with Marty Brown (if I’m not mistaken) the latter does it much better, cause it’s his ground. It’s where he belongs while Frank, so to say, roams the strange land. I hope endlessly that FB will make a return some day to his rocking days and bizarre maybe even UFO lyrics (dreamer). That’s where he is unsurpassable. |
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mixedbizz
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 07/05/2006 : 16:40:45
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Southbend, I respect your opinion, but disagree with just about everything you just said.
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boydrinksgirl
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Posted - 07/05/2006 : 18:41:25
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There can be a myriad of arguements pro and con, but the fact remains, and it is cliche, 'moss don't gather on a rolling stone'. So many artists have stepped outside their safety zone, and while most die-hard fans would disagree with their decisions to do so, some really wonderful things can come from those tangents. Hell, Johnny Cash was covering Trent Reznor in his last days, and as incredulous as that was, somehow it worked.
Perhaps Frank will revisit some familiar ground again, but for now he seems to enjoy exploring some American Gothic. |
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Born to Lose
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 07/05/2006 : 18:49:57
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| As much as I love Frank Black's first three albums that sang of weird, interstellar phenomena, I'm very glad he has not allowed himself to be stuck in a rut. I think FM/RM is definitely one of his best records. Its a lot more upbeat than Honeycomb. Honeycomb had a lot of nice tunes but they weren't exactly catchy. I find myself singing and humming a lot of the songs from FM/RM. |
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teh sharkie
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Posted - 07/05/2006 : 19:15:22
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boydrinksgirl
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Posted - 07/05/2006 : 20:10:07
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From one king to another. . .
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2006 : 20:58:23
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| see now that was nice give him a cheer. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2006 : 02:15:17
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| "hey!" |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 07/06/2006 : 09:02:55
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Haha, very good boydrinksgirl. And hello to you!
Join the Cult Of Pob! And don't forget to listen to the Pobcast! |
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 07/09/2006 : 10:07:23
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