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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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 Posted - 12/02/2005 : 06:55:05
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Yeah, I just read it. Do any of you guys take the NME polls seriously anyway? The guys are really beating a dead horse here.
Denis
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 07:20:33
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I take the Cool List as gospel, but apart from that, not really.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 07:22:58
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The guy I live with travels down to tottenham court road every tuesday to buy NME. With the poll this week we went to this bar and he sat and counted how many of the albums he had and was quite pleased with 17.
Some people take thenme very seriously indeed.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 08:00:59
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Well I'm the proud owner of 0 of the NME's top 50 albums:
50 Test icicles
49 Dead Meadow
48 Ladytron
47 Sleater-Kinney
46 The Duke Spirit
45 Shout Out Louds
44 Field Music
43 Engineers
42 Sigur Ros
41 Nine Black Alps
40 Brakes
39 Vitalic
38 Autolux
37 Circulus
36 The Bravery
35 Elbow
34 Rufus Wainwright
33 We Are Scientists
32 Queens Of The Stone Age
31 Bright Eyes
30 Doves
29 Madonna
28 Absentee
27 Kate Bush
26 Super Furry Animals
25 MIA
24 Oasis
23 Hard-Fi
22 Raveonettes
21 LCD Soundsystem
20 Editors
19 Coldplay
18 Art Brut
17 The Magic Numbers
16 British Sea Power
15 Maximo Park
14 Dungen
13 The Rakes
12 Devendra Banhart
11 The Cribs
10 Gorillaz
9 Babyshambles
8 Kanye West
7 Sufjan Stevens
6 The White Stripes
5 Kaiser Chiefs
4 Antony & The Johnsons
3 Franz Ferdinand
2 Arcade Fire
1 Bloc Party
(although to be fair, there are 5 of them that I'd like to have)
Denis
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 08:04:19
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the only one i've bought is coldplay and that was for my brothers birthday
but i have:
engineers (i think)
doves
lcd soundsystem
coldplay
magic numbers
thie stripes
kaiser chiefs
arcade fire
bloc party
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 08:13:01
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Yeah, I have the five good ones as well...
Sigur Ros, Gorillaz, Anthony & The Johnsons, Bloc Party, Arcade Fire.
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 08:26:57
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It seems Londonist have had to remove that article... fortunately I read it earlier- anyone got a copy?
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 10:05:05
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I wasn't really that interested in reading it before, but now that it was removed, I HAVE to read it!
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1485 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2005 : 11:30:01
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| No crystal meth in this thread? I'm outta here. |
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Z_Zoquis
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 11:39:01
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| I refuse to believe there are 50 records this year that are better than Twin Cinema by the New Pornographers. I mean, no way is Madonna's newest better...or Kate Bush or any number of others onthat list. I remember NME gave Twin Cinema a pretty bad review (which I completely disagreed with) but come on... |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2005 : 13:15:50
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SCOOP - NME Album Of The Year
Today, NME publishes its annual Album Of The Year poll. For the benefit of our overseas readers, that's the New Musical Express, the UK's longest-running weekly music journal. The NME being the tastemakers that they are, this is a well-respected poll, with a coveted #1 spot. Well-respected, that is, until now...
It has come to our attention that this year, NME may have chosen to publish a doctored version of the aforementioned poll. According to our source, the list of albums printed in this week's publication does not reflect the opinions of its writers, as you might expect. Instead, we're told you'll find a heavily edited version which, we have on good faith, takes some commercial and political factors into consideration.
In the document we saw were the actual results of the poll, according to the votes of the NME staff, which we can now compare with the version that appears in today's NME.
We notice, for example, that Babyshambles appear at #9 in the published poll, despite fairing particularly badly in the 'genuine' poll. Dare we speculate that Mr. Doherty shifts too many papers for him to be outside the top 10? At least we can glean what NME's reviewers really think of Babyshambles album...
Another band who seem to have shot up the rankings according to the list in today's paper is Oasis, who appear at number 24. This hefty leap is nearly matched by Elbow, who have also made the move from near the foot of the chart to a quite respectable number 35.
There are four other artists whose positions in the published chart are nothing short of miraculous when compared to the original: Madonna, Kate Bush, the Brakes, and Test Icicles.
These entries might be excused on the basis that they are relatively recent albums that might have been released after the votes were counted. But hang on, the Brakes album came out back in July, did it not? So why do the Brakes now find themselves at #40? And how come their sibling band British Sea Power drop down several places from their initial standing?
Others disappear completely, having featured in the writers' votes. Whither have New Order, Patrick Wolf, Beck, Wrens, Cut Copy and the Tears fled?
Lastly - and this is probably the most contentious discrepancy of all - the order of the top four or five results (including the number one spot, which is taken by Bloc Party in the published list) appear to have been shifted around slightly to reflect what is presumably editorial bias. If we were Arcade Fire, we'd be feeling pretty cheated right about now.
As any music lover will know, end-of-year polls are important, as are lists in general (see High Fidelity). Hence, it would be extremely disappointing if the Album Of The Year list we spend hours discussing in the pub is almost completely arbitrary. They might as well have plucked the results out of a hat, for God's sake...
Care to explain what external factors could possibly have influenced the poll to this extent, NME?
Editor's note: Regarding the issues which have been raised in the comments section - we will not be publishing the list we referred to and we won't be revealing how we came about that information either. This is simply because we were asked not to. This site does not have a history of printing lies in order to pursue personal vendettas and we're not about to start. There's no reason for us to attack the NME specifically (in fact, if you scroll down you'll see we plugged their tour yesterday), we're just stating what we've seen and posting our thoughts on it. If you don't want to believe it then that's fine.
Also, if that is the editor of the NME posting comments here (we're aware other commenters are posting under the same name and have deleted those comments) then he needs to email Londonist directly to prove it and address his concerns over what we've published directly with us.
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1485 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2005 : 14:24:12
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 12/03/2005 : 18:05:23
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He'll appreciate that comment, should he Loggin to the forum.
Sorry.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 05:49:22
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It's funny 'cos as soon as I saw the list I said that itr was doctored due to politics. It's all about them selling more papers. Without this I am sure the staff at NME actually do have decent enough taste to make it a more interesting list, but it was never going to be a true reflection of their taste. Quite sad really.
The other things that stood out for me was that there was no way that Arcade Fire would have featured so highly had the people who buy their paper not gone so mad for them at the Reading and Leeds festivals.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 06:30:11
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the article suggests they were originally number 1? i thought it was a great album to begin with, seeing them live only added to that.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 06:33:35
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
the article suggests they were originally number 1? i thought it was a great album to begin with, seeing them live only added to that.
I know it did, but it would never have been allowed to be number 1 or 2 if they hadn't gotten so popular after the Carling Weekend.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 07:02:34
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Originally posted by Carl
He'll appreciate that comment, should he Loggin to the forum.
Sorry.
"Join the Honeycult!"
I think it's the first time you apologize for one of your one liners. It wasn't really worse than the others though...
Denis
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 09:35:18
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Meh, some good stuff, but basically the usual predicable crap you get from the NME.
the Arcade Fire deserves to be number one. the best band to come out in the last 6 months. Bloody amazing, i must say. Bloc party are ok, but they have become rather tedious now...bored of them personally.
Magic Numbers, Bright Eyes and Maximo Park, We Are Scientists and a good few others should really be higher IMHO.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 10:38:30
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Opinions are like backsides: everyone has one, and most of them stink. Debating what should and shouldn't have been there is pretty much a dead end, because it doesn't achieve or influence anything. For example, personally I think Maximo Park are absolutely terrible, yet there's no sign of my favourite album of the year, Low's 'The Great Destroyer'.
The principle of the thing is what's bugging me. Once upon a time, the NME had integrity, if not respect, but this seems like yet another nail in it's coffin. I wonder who would read the NME if this was proved to be true. I guess there will still be hipsters more interested in image over substance, but I'd guess that it would sound something of a death-knell for the paper.
Hence I restate my original question: who can recommend me some decent online sources for this sort of thing?
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
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Posted - 12/05/2005 : 17:43:47
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Originally posted by vilainde
I think it's the first time you apologize for one of your one liners. It wasn't really worse than the others though...
Yeah, your right, they're all about the same level!
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