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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1117 Posts |
 Posted - 10/13/2005 : 13:20:48
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| And from me, a thanks to Jon! |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2005 : 14:43:42
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Oh yeah! I have to give a big shout of thanks for all the inside information he's shared.
And an even bigger one for answering my many questions.
From what i've read, he's enjoyed an amazing career in the business.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2005 : 16:23:29
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http://www.thedictators.com/retbj.html
EDIT: 19/10/05
Dear all,
After much consideration, I'm leaving this link up (it's already been quoted anyway so it wouldn't make a great deal of difference, but its a principle thing).
I fully understand why Jon has taken offence at this article, however I'm happy to leave it there to balance out the rather cloying tone in the other articles posted. By his own admission, approximately 98% of the internet is full of nonsense and drivel, and this may very well be part of that. As they say, opinions are like backsides: everyone has one, and most of them stink. However, in the interests of open discussion I see no reason why I should remove this link.
I would, however, like to restate that there wasn't any malicious intent in posting it: if I've taken exception to Jon, it's since he reacted to me in an (as I feel) inappropriate manner, and there was no ill feeling at the time. I have no idea what's true and what's not in any of the articles so, while I see how it could be taken (albeit mistakenly) as a personal attack, its certainly not.
I try to be a reasonable guy and I take no pleasure in causing offence, and I therefore express my regret if Jon was offended by anything in the article - please understand that it's clearly not my personal opinion.
I hope this clears up one or two things. Jon, please feel free to email me should you wish for further clarification.
Cheers,
Simon
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2005 : 16:49:40
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 04:49:35
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Dear ladies and gentleman,
Thanks for the interest.
Regarding the link Cheeseman has posted, if you live long enough and get some success/fame, someone from your past who is bitter enough will write something nasty about you. I knew Richard Meltzer briefly in my teenage years, and he was very threatened by the new crop of rock writers who were able to achieve more than he had. Cameron, Danny and I were young and ambitious, a major crime. Danny Sugerman, R.I.P., was a good dude who flew too close to the sun. Cameron has achieved great success as a film director and remains a good friend.
I saw him about two weeks ago. Regarding the author of the piece, I have neither heard from Meltzer or seen him since I left my teens---that's thirty years. I read the article when it originally appeared and was stunned by how vile and untruthful it was, and will not read it again.
You can google me all day and find all sorts of stuff about me, some actually interesting and accurate. I'd be happy to do a live chat thing if you want it.
Now I've got to go mix the new record!
best,
Jon Tiven
PRODUCER AND WRITER
B.B.KING Here & There (MCA, August 2001)
King of the Blues (box set MCA, October 1992)
Lucille & Friends (MCA UK, June 1995)
WILSON PICKETT It’s Harder Now (August 1999) Handy Award
Winner 1999
ELLIS HOOKS Undeniable (Zane U.K., September 2002)
Up Your Mind (Evidence, October 2003)
Uncomplicated (Artemis, March 2004)
The Hand of God (Zane, March 2004)
“Letter To The President/Living In The Big House” ep
(Artemis, July 2004)
Black Market (Unlimited Editions, February 2005)
Godson of Soul (Evidence, August 2005)
LITTLE MILTON Think of Me (Telarc, May 2005)
VARIOUS Box of the Blues (Rounder, October 2003)
VARIOUS Only the Strong Survive (Koch, July 2003)
Soundtrack featuring Wilson Pickett, Ann Peebles, Mary Wilson,
Rufus & Carla Thomas, Sam Moore, Jerry Butler, ChiLites, Issac Hayes
SYL & JIMMY JOHNSON Two Johnsons Are Better Than
One (Evidence Music U.S./Evangeline Music U.K.,
June 2002)
DON COVAY (Cannonball, September 2000) featuring Paul
Rodgers, Lee Konitz, Huey Lewis, Kim Simmonds,
Frederick Knight, Ann Peebles, Syl Johnson, Otis
Clay, Wilson Pickett, Dan Penn, Paul Shaffer and
Simon Kirke Handy Nominee 2000
MICHAEL HILL’S BLUES MOB Larger Than Life (Dixie Frog, March 2001)
FREDDIE SCOTT Brand New Man (Evangeline, February 2001)
VARIOUS Holiday Heroes, a Christmas album with jon tiven's
Ego Trip, Mavis Staples, Dan Penn, Bobby Womack,
Chuck Jackson, Johnny Colla, Dennis
Edwards, Johnny Kemp, Spooner Oldham,
Graham Parker, Jerry Butler, Donnie Fritts,
The Chi-Lites, Felix Cavaliere, Alan Merrill
(Soul Purpose, November 1995)
VARIOUS Back To The Streets, tribute to Don Covay with
Bobby Womack, Robert Cray, Todd
Rundgren, Chuck Jackson, Ron Wood,
Gary U.S. Bonds, Peter Wolf, Nona
Hendryx, Billy Squier, Iggy Pop,
Jerry Butler, Arlene Smith, Ben E.
King, Vernon Reid, Corey Glover,
Jim Carroll Mick Taylor and Jimmy
Witherspoon
(Shanachie, September 1993)
VARIOUS Adios Amigo. Tribute to Arthur Alexander
with RogerMcGuinn, Elvis Costello, Robert Plant,
Graham Parker, Mark Knopfler, Chuck Jackson,
Frank Black, Marshall Crenshaw, Sir Mack Rice,
Michael Hill, John Prine, Corey Glover,
Nick Lowe, Gary U.S. Bonds, Zucchero,
Felix Cavaliere, Ronnie Spector, Pookie Hudson,
Dan Penn, Donnie Fritts
(Razor & Tie, September 1994)
VARIOUS Box of the Blues (Rounder, October 2003)
VARIOUS 120 Soul Street (JRS, November 2004)
JON TIVEN'S EGO TRIP Blue Guru,
(Fountainbleu, November 1996)
(Provogue, March 1998) (Europe)
JON TIVEN GROUP Yes I Ram
(New West, Feb 2000)
DONNIE FRITTS Everybody's Got A Song, featuring duets with
Kris Kristofferson, Willie Nelson, John
Prine, Waylon Jennings, Lucinda Williams,
Dan Penn, Eddie Hinton & Delbert McClinton
(Oh Boy!, November 1997)
PAXTON Paxton
(Nemperor/Razor & Tie, November 1997)
MITCH WEISSMAN Tip of The Iceberg
(Stand Back, March 1998)
ALEX CHILTON Bach's_Bottom
(Razor & Tie, May 1993)(Line, September 1983)
One_Day_In_New_York
(Trio, May 1978)
Singer_Not_The_Song
(Ork, October 1976)
JIM CARROLL World Without Gravity (Rhino, August 1993)
ROGER C. REALE/REDUCERS WakeThe Neighbors (RaveOn, September 1987)
PRIX Historix (Air Mail/Jap. May 2002)
EP (Ork EP, January 1977)
"Love You Tonight (Saturday's Gone)"
(Miracle single, June 1978; reissued on
Rhino pop anthology Shake & Pop, March 1993)
BILLIE RAY MARTIN 18 Carat Garbage Demos (BRM, May 2002)
DON NIX Going Down (Evidence, October 2002)
ESSRA MOHAWK You’re Not Alone (Evidence, October 2003)
PRODUCER
ROBERT PLANT Sixty Six to Timbuktu (Atlantic, November 2003)
FRANK BLACK Honeycomb (July 2005)
Oddballs (March 2001)
Headache EP (4AD, May 1994)
Teenager of The Year
(Virgin France, June 1994)
NICK LOWE Live! On The Battlefield (Upstart, July 1995)
VARIOUS Vanthology, tribute to Van Morrison with Little Milton,
Syl Johnson, William Bell, Freddie Scott, Frederick Knight,
Bettye Lavette, Eddie Floyd, Sir Mack Rice, Otis Clay, Son
Seals, Dan Penn, Bobby Patterson, Henry Butler, Ellis Hooks,
Chuck Jackson (Evidence, August 2003)
VARIOUS Brace Yourself, tribute to Otis Blackwell with
Chrissie Hynde, Paul Rodgers, Kris Kristofferson,
Frank Black, Willie DeVille, Dave Edmunds,
Joe Ely, Sue Foley, Deborah Harry, Graham Parker,
Ronnie Spector, Chris Spedding, the Smithereens,
Jon Spencer, Tom Verlaine, Joe Louis Walker
(Shanachie, February 1994)
NAIRD Rock Album of the Year
VARIOUS People Get Ready, tribute to Curtis
Mayfield with Huey Lewis & the News,
David Sanborn, Vernon Reid, Delbert
McClinton, Kim Wilson, Angela Strehli,
Jerry Butler, Steve Cropper, Don Covay,
Bunny Wailer and Michael Hill
(Shanachie, March 1993)
NAIRD Rhythm & Blues Album of the Year 1993
GRAHAM PARKER Christmas Craker
(Dakota, November 1994)
VARIOUS Piss & Vinegar: A Tribute to Graham Parker, with
Frank Black, Pat Dinizio, Gary Lucas,
Rave/Agnelli, and jon tiven's EGO TRIP
(Buy Or Die, December 1996)
DELBERT McCLINTON Delbert McClinton
(Curb, September 1993)
ANGELA STREHLI Blonde & Blue
(Rounder, November 1993)
JOE LOUIS WALKER JLW
(Verve, June 1994)
RICHARD LLOYD "Get Off My Cloud"
(Icewater, August 1981)
ROGER C. REALE/REDUCERS Wake_The Neighbors
(RaveOn, September 1987)
MICK FARREN "Play With Fire"/"Lost Johnny" (Ork, October 1978)
VAN DUREN Staring_At_The_Ceiling (London, February 1979)
VARIOUS Bionic_Gold (Big Sound, February 1978)
WEREWOLVES "Hollywood Millionaire" and "Never Been To
Hades" on Werewolves (RCA, September 1978)
WRITER
HUEY LEWIS & THE NEWS "He Don't Know" - single on Hard At_Play
(EMI, April 1991) platinum
IAN MOSS "Mr. Rain" - single on Matchbook
(Mushroom, March 1989) double platinum
"No Amount of Crying" on Worlds_Away
(Mushroom, October 1991) gold
"Mr. Rain (live)" - single (October 1991)
THE JEFF HEALEY BAND "River of No Return" on See The Light
(Arista, October 1988) 2 million +
THE ROBERT CRAY BAND "24-7 Man"" on Take Your Shoes Off
(Ryko, April 1999) Grammy Award-Contemporary
Blues Album of the Year
RICKY FANTE “It Ain’t Easy” on Rewind (Virgin, July 2004)
MICHAEL BURKS I Smell Smoke (Alligator, July 2003) title song
JOHNNY WINTER I’m A Blues Man (Virgin, June 2004) “I Smell
Smoke” and “Last Night”
DEBORAH COLEMAN What About Love? (Telarc, June 2004)“Undeniable”
BILLIE RAY MARTIN “Captain Drag,” “18 Carat Garbage,” and “Taking
Out The Garbage” on 18 Carat Garbage (Sonnestahl, March 2001)
“18 Carat Garbage” (4 different mixes) on Recycled
Garbage (Sonnestahl, October 2002)
KOKO TAYLOR/B.B. KING "Blues Hotel" on Royal Blue
(Alligator, July 2000) 2000 Handy & Grammy
nominee
DEBBIE DAVIES "When You Were Gone" on Tales from the Austin
Motel
(Shanachie, July 1999)
“Can’t Live Like This No More” and “Just Your Fool”
on Love The Game (Shanachie, March 2001)
VINCE CONVERSE "One Step Ahead" on One Step Ahead
(Mystic Music, May 1999)
LESLIE WEST "Allergic," "Can't Shake It," "Dragon Lady,"
"Raw Nerve" and "As Phat As It Gets" on
As Phat As It Gets, (Mystic Music, Sept. 1999)
TINSLEY ELLIS "Let's Think About It" and "Other Side of Town" on
Kingpin (Capricorn, March 2000)
“Still In The Game” and “Me Without You” on
The Hard Way (Telarc, April 2004)
TAB BENOIT/DEBBIE DAVIES/ "Deal With It" on Homesick For The Road
KENNY NEAL (Telarc, April 1999)
MICHELLE WILLSON "Tryin To Make A Little Love" from Tryin' To Make A Little Love (Rounder, January 1999)
SCOTT HOLT "All You give Me Is The Blues" from Dark of The
Night (Mystic Music, September 1999)
TROY TURNER "Protection," "It's Harder Now," "World Without
Fear," and "It's Later Than You Think"
from Blues On My Back (Telarc, Sept. 1999)
PAXTON "What's It Like To Be You?" from Ginger's Dish
(Nemperor, October 1999)
MICHAEL HILL'S BLUES MOB "Let's Talk About The Weather" on Have
Mercy! (Alligator, September 1996)
“Let’s Talk About the Weather on Electric Storyland
Live (Ruf, July 2003)
SON SEALS "Tricks of The Trade" on Nothing But The Truth
(Alligator, August 1994)
"Bad Luck Child" on Lettin Go
(Telarc, April 2000) 2000 Handy nominee
JAMES ARMSTRONG "Midnight Again" on Sleeping With A Stranger
(Hightone, October 1995)
BUDDY GUY "Midnight Train" and "Heavy Love" on Heavy Love
(Silvertone, June 1998)
"Midnight Train" on Buddy's Baddest
(Silvertone, September 1999)
SHEMEKIA COPELAND "Married To The Blues," "Has Anybody Seen My
Man” and "Big Lovin Woman" on Turn Up The Heat
(Alligator, May 1998)
“The Fool You’re Looking For,” “Love Scene,” and
“Your Man Is Lying” on Wicked
(Alligator, September 2000) Handy & Grammy
nominee
“Don’t Whisper That You Love Me,” “Shoulda Come
Home,” and “Sholanda’s” on Talking To Strangers (Alligator, September 2002)
NAKED BLUE "World Without Fear" on Treasure & The Pearl
(Viceroy, September 1994)
IRMA THOMAS "Trying To Catch A Cab In The Rain" on
True_Believer (Rounder, Oct. 1992)
JIM CARROLL "Dry Dream" - title track on Dry_Dream
(Atlantic, November 1982)
DALTON REED "Heavy Love" on Louisiana Soul Man,
(Rounder, April 1992)
LITTLE JIMMY KING "Unloveable" on Something Inside of Me,
(Bullseye, April 1994)
NATHAN & THE ZYDECO CHACHAS "Mama's Tired" on Follow Me Chicken,
(Rounder, July 1993)
SARAH NAGOURNEY "Get Over The Cure" on Realm of My Senses
(Polystar, July 1993)
SKULL "I Like My Music Loud" and
"Living On The Edge" on No_Bones_About_It
(Music For Nations, June 1991)(Pony Canyon, February 1992)
DAVE RAVE GROUP "Weight Of The World" on Valentino's_Pirates, (Melodiya, June 1991)
TOMMY HOEHN "Girl" on Losing_You_To_Sleep,
(London, May 1978)
RICK DERRINGER "Take It Like A Man" on Good_Dirty_Fun
(Polydor, September 1982)
BARRENCE WHITFIELD & "Running & Hiding", "Living Proof" on
THE SAVAGES Ow!Ow!Ow! (Rounder, September 1987)
"Living Proof" on Live_Emulsified (Rounder, July 19
THE YANKEES 9 songs on High 'n' Inside (Big Sound, January 1 1979)
14 songs on High ‘n’ Inside cd reissue (Air Mail Recordings/Jap., November 2001)
JANITA "It Doesn't Get Better" on Believer (Fazer, July 1997)
JOHNNY COLLA “Second Chance” on Lucky Devil (Way Out West,
Jan 2003)
FILMS
SPIES LIKE US "Rock The House Down" * (Warner Bros, 1986)
ONE MORE SATURDAY NIGHT "Don't Like To Me," "Fresh Fruit," "Rock
You," "Love Nazi" * (Columbia, 1987)
END OF THE LINE "Counterfeit," "Don't Say You Love Me"** (Orion,
1988)
MILES FROM HOME "Take It Like A Man" ** (Cinecom, 1989)
MY MOM'S A WEREWOLF "Strong Love" ** (Crown, 1989)
KID "I Like My Music Loud"* (Disney, 1990)
SEX, DRUGS & DEMOCRACY "World Without Fear" * (Independent,1994)
IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU "Ponytime" *** (Tristar, 1994)
DESERT SAINTS “Never Come Sunrise” (2002)
ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE Music Producer, writer of “Soul Survivor,”
“Outskirts of Town,” and “All About Sex”
(Miramax, July 2003)
TELEVISION
BROKEN BADGES "River of No Return" * (CBS, Nov. 1990)
ONE LIFE TO LIVE "He Don't Know" * (ABC, June 1991)
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 05:39:24
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Tiven,
Are you famous?
I'm sorry if the answer seems obvious to everyone but me, but hey, I'm French. I thought you were only one of those random forum members.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 09:00:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur
Tiven,
Are you famous?
I will show you fear in a handful of dust
to answer your question, no.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 09:47:11
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Well, I think Tiven just proved you wrong there Stavros.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 09:53:14
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wait, you're right. i didn't see this:
JON TIVEN'S EGO TRIP Blue Guru,
(Fountainbleu, November 1996)
makes all the difference
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/14/2005 : 09:54:45
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I think a reasonable answer would be that he's famous to people who pay attention to the technical side of the music industry.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 09:55:56
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 10:38:14
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Dear Floop,
My film credits are for songs which I've written, many of which I've produced as well.
love,
Jon Tiven |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 10:49:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven
Dear Floop,
My film credits are for songs which I've written, many of which I've produced as well.
love,
Jon Tiven
ah. my bad |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 13:30:28
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what did you do with the toilet paper, jon?
i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort. |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 14:53:22
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| Dammit! I have plans the same time the "Jon Tiven: Live Chat Thing" is supposed to happen. |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 15:25:00
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When IS it supposed to happen? Have I missed something?
(Either the announcement of a date and time or the sarcasm in your post) |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 15:47:46
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quote:
Originally posted by dayanara
what did you do with the toilet paper, jon?
while we're on that topic.. do you or do you not put the seat back down afterwards? |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 18:50:50
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| You've written stuff with BB and Iggy?! And produced Robert Plant.....also, I did'nt know you produced TOTY. |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 19:09:09
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he didn't. it's kind of like when you put "director of environmental services" on your resume when in fact your job is unclogging toilets in the men's restroom.
i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 19:12:29
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| Wow, he unclogged the toilet's in the men's restroom of the recording studio?! |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2005 : 19:12:43
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quote:
Originally posted by kelladwella
When IS it supposed to happen? Have I missed something?
(Either the announcement of a date and time or the sarcasm in your post)
Sorry for the sarcasm. I was just a bit underwhelmed by the page long resume. The offending article about Tiven, Crowe, and Sugarman was obviously written by some one with a personal boner for these guys. No need to defend yourself, Jon. All we need to do is listen to Honeycomb, and you are golden. Nice job (tires screeching in reverse).
I suppose we could get some pretty cool info out of Jon. He seems like an accomodating cat. Pick a time! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 01:56:35
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Hi there Tiven - I had a look at my TOTY inlay and couldn't see your name on there... I'm guessing it wasn't actually unclogging the loos but I'd be interested as to your contribution.
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 02:11:19
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quote:
Originally posted by ScottP
Sorry for the sarcasm. I was just a bit underwhelmed by the page long resume.
Ah well, thanks for clearing that up for me. At least I almost got it...  |
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 04:01:57
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Well Tiven, I have to say your CV does look impressive. You haven't been idle during all those years. I must admit I haven't heard of almost any of those people you talk about, but I'm pretty sure people like you, who dedicated their life tu true music, would never produce popular music like Britney Spears.
I don't know if it still holds, but I would definitely be glad if that live chat thing was organized - I'm always happy to chat with older people who have lived and often got so many stories to transmit to the younger generations.
However, I live in Europe, so I guess we should organize 2 live chats. there's a 6 hours difference, and I think the European live chat should take place in evening here - about 4am in Nashville. I hope this doesn't bother you. Please let us know how we could organize this.
Thank you again for helping us discover obscure artists you produce that we would never have heard of otherwise.
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 05:47:51
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The French version of TOTY (which is what is in the discography) includes the five tracks I produced by Frank.
I did not write for Iggy but I produced one track on him on my Don Covay Tribute album. I wrote and produced four tracks by B.B. King, and produced one track by Robert Plant which appears on his greatest hits album and my Arthur Alexander Tribute.
And Meltzer's toilet fetish is not my problem. He's a strange, sad guy. Keeps dead animals preserved in jello in his fridge (really).
I know I'm a controversial and polarizing personality, but I'm not a liar. All my credits are bonafide. The Bowie thing was a remix of "I Feel Free" which I have detailed in another thread about Frank Recording In Nashville, Carl, I suggest you drag yourself over there.
Why all the anger? Why all the nastiness? It's not good for you.
love,
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gauth
- FB Fan -
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 06:24:20
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 06:34:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven
love,
Jon Tiven
why the love? 
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 06:43:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven
The French version of TOTY (which is what is in the discography) includes the five tracks I produced by Frank.
To quote my boy floop, my bad. For most of the others you've marked where you've done one or two songs on records, so that threw me. You understand the confusion - it's a Frank Black forum after all, you can understand people being picky.
Although, y'know, who doesn't keep dead animals preserved in jello in their fridge these days?
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 08:14:31
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Dear Cheeseman,
Since you posted a link to an article that is 98% bullsh*t, I think it's a little much to take me to task for not specifying that I only produced 5 tracks on the cd. I did specify that it was the French version, so anyone who knows his FB discography would say, oh, what is the diff between the French version and the others? This is my official discography, I did not tailor it for this site.
As for why the love, PixieSteve, we all need a little love. Even you. Do not look a gift horse in the mouth, it might throw you.
love,
Jon Tiven |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 08:49:23
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 09:49:04
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Hey man, you've given us permission to google you back there, no need to get snotty - it's the internet, 98% of anything on there is nonsense. I was civil enough to admit my error right? It was hardly 'taking to task'.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2005 : 09:51:20
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No one messes with Simon and gets away with it, no one!
Swimming in the heavy water, buried in the sand
Happy hearts fall from my shaking hands
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 10/15/2005 : 10:23:04
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The French version has 5 extra tracks?! How did I not hear about that?!
I have the limited edition with the bonus CD, with Headache (NY City Version), Hate Me and Amnesia. Are these tracks included on the French version of the album? |
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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 10/15/2005 : 10:26:57
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i looked all over too. never heard about these extra five tracks.
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Edited by - PixieSteve on 10/15/2005 10:28:19 |
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Jon Tiven stuff
