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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/27/2006 :  06:21:23  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gankuverymuch


HOLY BOXCARS OUTSIDE WAITING!


hahahaha

www.myspace.com/doog = music
www.myspace.com/doogdoogdoog = emo
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2006 :  02:02:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0613,romano,72663,15.html

by Tricia Romano
March 27th, 2006 5:47 PM


Work at Spin, get a book deal. This seems to be the rule of the thumb for current and former staffers of the just-sold mag—as associate editor Caryn Ganz celebrated the release of her Pixies oral history, Fool the World (co-written with Josh Frank), at the Slipper Room March 21. She's following in the footsteps of Dave Itzkoff, Marc Spitz, and Chuck Klosterman, who were all on hand to congratulate the author and watch Pixies novelty tribute band Mente (fronted by Kim Deal's ex, John Murphy). Mazel tov!
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Haluo
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Japan
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Posted - 04/01/2006 :  20:46:27  Show Profile  Visit Haluo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i got a copy of the book either. although i have not read it through yet, i think this is a great book. so far so good, at least.

now while i'm reading, it reminds me one old question. and i think this is the time to ask it and figure out my longtime itchy mystery.

my question is -- what is 'chops'

in that famous newspaper ad, they said "please no chops." and i've been guessing that it is a kind of bass playing style or something (like hit-and-pull-the-strings-hard kind of thing). but in some sentences which appeared in the book, i don't think it makes sense. then my mystery is deepened.

would you tell me what that is? thanks.

"There's no need to fit in, when you're the alternative" -- j homme
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2006 :  00:04:20  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Slang for big sideburns?


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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Haluo
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Japan
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Posted - 04/02/2006 :  03:18:02  Show Profile  Visit Haluo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i know 'sideburns' neither, so i looked up the word in my dictionary.
and..... it seems to me that my question has got thicker than before. i should have learned english harder.

but thanks. and on this occasion, i also thank you for podcasts. that's awesome.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2006 :  06:06:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
technical skills... no showing off!


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2006 :  08:10:46  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Someone with chops has skills though, yes?


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2006 :  08:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes. no chops = don't be too flash


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gankuverymuch
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United Kingdom
31 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2006 :  22:43:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Two cool fool things...

http://themeparkexperience.blogspot.com/2006/04/trompe-le-monde.html

blog review.

and...

http://www.northshire.com/siteinfo/bookinfo/0-312-34007-9/0/

First chapter excerpt.

Also lots of new stuff at the website.

www.fooltheworldbook.com

"cool is about transcending your epic and being righteous about it"
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DivisionPelagic
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USA
48 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  20:31:27  Show Profile  Visit DivisionPelagic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I am pretty sure "chops" refers to skills. Specifically used in music, I think it can be equated with talent or skill needed to play jazz or swing music. I think. It could just mean pork chops.

I've heard a lot of noise, so I'm going to the stereo store, to get a white noise maker and turn it up to ten.
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =

USA
918 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2006 :  15:57:28  Show Profile  Visit Jefrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"Advertising looks and chops a must. No big hair!!"

-Pavement

Commonly seen in ads for metal bands in the 80's. But if you say you've got "chops" you probably also have an ego to show off said "chops". So bands might want to explicitly avoid people with "chops."
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =

USA
918 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2006 :  16:13:36  Show Profile  Visit Jefrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
RE: The book. I'm about a third the way through it, and while I am enjoying it, it seems to be glaringly short on quotes from actual mambers of the band. In fact, many (most?) of the quotes from Charles are quoted from other articles from that era.

After reading several pages in a row about the forming and setting up of Fort Apache that had nothing to do with the band (interesting, but somewhat tangential), I perused the rest of the book and it seems like band members only comprise about 20% of the quotes.

I don't want to be too negative, but when I read a book like this, I'm expecting to get a lot more info about what was going on with the band, the songwriting, etc., and so far I'mm getting a lot of info on the Boston scene as a whole, and how the scene at that time ended up influencing music in the future. It doesn't really seem to be focused on the Pixies as much as you would think by reading the title of the book.

It is interesting, but at the same time disappointing (to me).
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DivisionPelagic
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USA
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Posted - 04/18/2006 :  06:09:48  Show Profile  Visit DivisionPelagic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Still better than that other book though. Way better. Nice Pavement refrence.

I've heard a lot of noise, so I'm going to the stereo store, to get a white noise maker and turn it up to ten.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2006 :  19:56:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/inbrief/story/10025374/from_mariah_to_ben_harper?rnd=1145586968187&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1483

Frank Black Reaching for Pink Cigars

Former PIXIES frontman FRANK BLACK and his wife Violet welcomed their fourth child, daughter Lucy Berlin Thompson, this morning in Eugene, Oregon. Black bragged that his daughter is "gorgeous" with "lips like Angelina Jolie." In other Pixies news, a new book entitled Fool the World: the Oral History of a Band Called Pixies is now available in stores. It chronicles the rise and fall of the influential rockers -- from their inception in the mid-Eighties to their ultimate demise and the unexpected reunion tour in 2004, also the subject of a recent documentary, loudQUIETloud -- using interviews with the band along with producers, studio owners, music executives and artists who worked with them. The book also features interviews with big-name artists like BONO, BECK and PERRY FARRELL, who were heavily influenced by the Boston quartet. In addition, Fool the World features new cartoons by Trompe Le Monde illustrator Steve Appleby, and photographs from long-time Pixies photographer Simon Larbalestier.





http://harpmagazine.com/news/detail.cfm?article=10629



ARTICLES
NEWS


New Pixies Book
Released


Nicole Cairns
April 28, 2006


A new book outlining the history of the Pixies’ legendary career is now
available. Fool the World takes a look at the Pixies’ 20-year career, from
1985-2005, documenting one of the most influential bands in rock history.

The book originated as co-author Josh Frank’s idea to create a rock musical
called Teenager of the Year based on Frank Black. After compiling
interviews and researching the band’s career, Frank kept waiting to receive
funds for the play to no avail. Frank changed his outlet when news of the
Pixies reunion came, and teamed up with former Spin associate editor
Caryn Ganz to adapt his information into a book.

The product is Fool the World: The Oral History of the Pixies, 336 pages of
interviews from the band, producers and fellow musicians. Frank and Ganz
tell the story of the Pixies from their quick rise on the music scene to their
messy break up and now their remarkable reunion.

Copyright 2002–2006 Guthrie, Inc. All rights reserved.

Edited by - Carl on 04/28/2006 20:37:06
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oktay
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Posted - 05/08/2006 :  15:59:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My personal mid-book review.

The majority of the responses here seem to be positive but I'd like to take a minute to disagree.

To me the book reads like a research project loosely dumped onto paper (which it pretty much what it is) without any kind of effort put forth to tie the several pieces of little stories together.

It's very annoying to see 3-4 people talking about the same thing then all of a sudden the next quote is completely unrelated. It's a pretty tough read because the whole thing does not feel like a complete body of work. Contrast that to a great book like "Our Band Could Be Your Life" which is very well researched, very well written and complete in its chapters and as a whole.

Still there are some very interesting bits of trivia, information, insights about the band and the people involved.

I guess what I'd really like is if the author tried to add a little bit more of himself into the work rather than have somewhat dry and up-in-the-air quotes carry the whole load. You have to read "Our Band Could Be Your Life" to see what I'm talking about.

Would I still buy the book knowing what I know now? Yes. Also my review probably sounds more negative than I really meant. That's because of all the positive reviews. I felt like playing the devil's advocate. (I hear he makes $600/hr).

oktay



Edit: I finished the book last night. I was literally in tears in a few places so the book must have gotten at least something right.

Edited by - oktay on 05/09/2006 06:57:31
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gankuverymuch
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2006 :  09:49:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
who makes $600 an hour?

"cool is about transcending your epic and being righteous about it"
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2006 :  10:02:23  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Why, the Devil's attorney of course. Though I don't understand why he doesn't represent himself... <sorry lawyers out there>


"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2006 :  10:40:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oktay


I guess what I'd really like is if the author tried to add a little bit more of himself into the work rather than have somewhat dry and up-in-the-air quotes carry the whole load.


...and we all remember what happened when the author did just that in the GIGANTIC Mendelssohn book of science fiction!

Hank the 8th was a duplicated man

-bRIAN
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2006 :  10:52:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/05/16/214028.php

Book Review: Fool The World:
The Oral History of a Band
Called Pixies
by Josh Frank and
Caryn Ganz


May 16, 2006
Nik Dirga

The Pixies might offer as close
to a happy ending as you can
imagine for the story of a rock
band - four folks decide to start
a band, and they're great. With
insane ease they move from
playing clubs to becoming an
international sensation. They
break up at the height of their
potential, only to reunite a
decade or so later for a sold-out
reunion tour that makes them millions. They survive to finally become
famous and hugely influential, nobody dies of an overdose (although
some feelings get hurt), and they're left with a legacy of thrashing
pop-rock tunes that helped change the music landscape.

It's a history worth talking about, and in the new book Fool The
World: The Oral History of A Band Called Pixies
, authors Josh Frank
and Caryn Ganz piece together a sweeping oral history of the band by
friends, family, and fellow musicians. It's a skillfully crafted read, and
a rocket ride through the band's quick rise, fall, and lasting musical
redemption.

The authors spoke to all four band members - frontman Charles "Frank
Black" Thompson, bassist/cult idol Kim Deal, drummer David Loverling,
and excellent guitarman David Santiago, and the band's inner
workings and psychodramas are told here as never before. In addition,
pretty much everyone who ever worked with the Pixies in their
extraordinarily short heyday from roughly 1986 to 1992 is interviewed:
recording engineers, record label wonks, album artists, and musical
mates like members of Throwing Muses and Dinosaur Jr. In addition,
we get testimony to the Pixies by everyone from Bono to Perry Farrell
(Bono: "The Pixies are an original species. They invented something").
Frank and Ganz manage to weave an amazing tapestry of voices and
views about the Pixies.

Oral histories are a tricky breed of storytelling, though. Even the best
of them can be a bit shapeless, and Fool The World sometimes errs on
the side of giving too much nonessential detail and too much focus on
side players to the Pixies' story. The book could've been edited down
just a little tighter, I felt, although diehard Pixies fans won't mind the
scope. Also, while Fool The World excels at giving you an idea at the
band personalities and particularly the volatile relationship between
Thompson and Deal, it falls a bit short in places in telling us how the
Pixies' unique style came to be. (I should note, a really excellent
companion to this book is Ben Sisario's The Pixies' Doolittle, a
novella-length examination of the band's finest album and
Thompson's songwriting style).

But no book can cover every angle of a band as sprawling as the
Pixies, whose loud-soft dynamic of clattering, surrealist songs still
sound as fresh today as when they were recorded which is going on 20
years ago. Thompson notes that the Pixies, at the time, "didn't have
the grind that some people go through. There was no real struggle."
The Pixies and their sex and death dynamic clearly touched something
primal, and while American success was slower in coming, in Europe
they became mega-stars.

Frank and Ganz give us a real feel for the massive footprint the Pixies
left behind, and start to answer the question of why they mattered as
much as they did. Bonus points for the excellent appendix that not
only gives a Pixies discography, but also includes trivia such as how
many cover versions of Pixies songs there've been, and by whom. For
Pixies fans, Fool The World makes for pretty essential reading.


An editor at a daily newspaper in Southern Oregon, Nik Dirga writes whenever
the mood strikes him about books, music, movies, pop culture and more. He and
his wife and 2-year-old son are moving to New Zealand this fall.

Edited by - Carl on 05/17/2006 11:08:21
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2006 :  11:58:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Also, while Fool The World excels at giving you an idea at the
band personalities and particularly the volatile relationship between
Thompson and Deal, it falls a bit short in places in telling us how the
Pixies' unique style came to be. (I should note, a really excellent
companion to this book is Ben Sisario's The Pixies' Doolittle, a
novella-length examination of the band's finest album and
Thompson's songwriting style).


While I really enjoyed the book and overall think it is a masterful effort, I agree with this criticism. Too much Deal and way too little on genius songcraft, though I suspect this may in part be due to that while Frank would seem to be the only person who could really shed light on that, he may also be unable to actually capture in words just how he does what he does. But even if the reader cannot be made to understand what underlies the unusual song structures, the oral history does not give enough credit to the songcraft as the core reason anybody cares about the Pixies. Having said this, I should say I haven't yet read the Sisario book.

Life is something that matter does.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2006 :  20:05:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I am very late to this party.

I just wanted to say thank you so much to Josh.

Right now I just finished the intro and it seems like the coolest book ever. I wish I could stay up all night and read the whole thing.

Thanks Josh and C for all your hard work and really putting together something really cool for the fans and for history. I really hope that someday soon you can get your funding for the musical.

Also, I think your project played a role in getting the Pixies back together and for that I can't thank you enough and only can share some of the happiness you have given this one fan.

Thanks!!!!
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =

USA
451 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2006 :  08:30:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

Also, I think your project played a role in getting the Pixies back together and for that I can't thank you enough and only can share some of the happiness you have given this one fan.


Not according to the book, and not to mention Violet in this very thread. However, I think this book is the best Pixies book yet.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2006 :  15:25:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok I see what you mean V.S. I read the book I just assumed that the whole book project helped get them talking about it.

This book was amazing. I really was impressed with all the points of view and all the different accounts and everything.

It was a great read and really helped me to understand the people that formed the Pixies. Back then you really never heard much about the band so it was really cool to read the whole account.

I loved hearing about how different songs were written and recorded. It was really neat to hear all the hard work that people behind the scenes but into helping them succeed.

The book was very well writen, flowed smoothly and was very hard to put down.

I really loved the whole thing but I think my favorite part was reading about Dave and how happy he was about the runion. It really puts a big smile on your face!

The other thing that I really liked is the table of contents and all the cool info in the back. It really is very nice to have all those details and to go back there and have such a nice reference. I definately leard a lot from the whole book but it was also really cool looking over that b-sides fun facts section. Dare I call it the Pixies Bible?

Aweseome! Thanks again Josh.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  08:57:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/02/174852.php

Book Review: Fool the World:
The Oral History of a Band
Called Pixies
by Josh Frank and
Caryn Ganz


June 02, 2006
Modern Pea Pod

Back in 2001, there was still
mystery left in the Pixies. Frank
Black (not, as he seems to call
himself now, Charles
Thompson) had only just
reached the point where he
could say the name of his
former band out loud; he still
hadn't spoken to his ex-
bandmate Kim Deal in almost a
decade. Whispers of a reunion
were growing louder, sure, but
certainly nobody I knew was
ready to believe them. And
when an article appeared in
Mojo that March, it was still something of a surprise to see all four
members in print, geographically separated but united on the page for
the first time since their breakup.

Is it strange to feel nostalgic for those days? Don't get me wrong -
just like every other rock nerd too young to have caught the Pixies in
their original run, the alternative rock legends' reunion made my 2004.
And while I'm not holding my breath, in moments of weakness the
idea of a long-awaited fifth Pixies album still makes me salivate a
little. But after a seemingly endless tour, a handful of stray studio
tracks, a glut of cash-in compilations and DVDs, and more cover
stories than you could shake a sliced-up eyeball at, isn't the Pixies'
biography becoming as well-worn and overdone as...well, the Beatles?

If your answer to that question was a resounding "yes," then you
might want to approach Fool the World, a new "oral history" of the
band in the tradition of their 2004 Spin cover story, with caution. Or
rather, you should approach it with the right intentions. There are no
big revelations about the Pixies to be found here; it's still the same
story Mojo ran way back in 2001. Thompson meets guitarist Joey
Santiago at the University of Massachussets. Thompson and Santiago
drop out of school and decide to form a band. They meet bass player
Deal through a want ad citing Husker Du and Peter, Paul and Mary;
drummer David Lovering is introduced by Deal's husband. And the rest
is all spaceships, debasers, kicked guitars, ladies in the radiator and
Steve Albini. There are no juicy tidbits about Thompson's alleged
relationship with Deal - at least none more substantial than the usual
teasing suggestions. And if you're looking for some great, dramatic
"Reason" for the infamous breakup, you might as well forget it: the
"Reason" is that they got tired, and Thompson/Black is as honest and
understated about that fact as ever.

Fortunately, however (for the book and for our patience), big
revelations aren't why we read oral histories. What makes Fool the
World
such a fascinating and worthwhile read, in fact, has to do with
the exact opposite: namely, the minutiae it sees fit to chronicle, from
the specifics of the Pixies' ill-fated tour with U2 to the photo session
which produced the "Gigantic" 7" sleeve. Mastermind Josh Frank, who
bills himself as a "pop culture dramatist" - yes, he's the guy who's
working on the Frank Black/Pixies musicalyou might have heard about
a few years back - approaches his project with the zeal of a playwright
and a fanboy, peppering the narrative with interview excerpts from a
61-strong "cast of characters." That includes major players like
longtime producer Gil Norton, Deal's ex-husband John Murphy, and of
course the band themselves, but we also get to hear from such
peripheral figures as the band's agent, the founders of Fort Apache
Studios (where the Purple Tape/Come On Pilgrim was recorded), and a
whole bevy of music-world contemporaries and torch-carriers alike.
The picture we get isn't always pretty - Lovering's decline into
depression and near-suicide in the years leading up the reunion is
actually downright bleak - but it just might be the most complete
telling of the Pixies story yet.

But perhaps this book's greatest success lies outside the depiction of
its immediate subjects, and in its portrayal of the world from which
the Pixies emerged, the world for which their contributions are almost
immeasurable. This world is the alternative rock scene of the 1980s,
before Nirvana, for better or worse, Changed Everything; and as a
backdrop for the rise and fall of the Pixies, it's as irresistable as it is
ubiquitous. There's something romantic about the passage where Kim
Deal describes her experience as a frustrated music lover in Dayton,
Ohio, learning about what little underground music she could from
clandestinely exchanged mixtapes in an era before every unsigned
band had a MySpace. And Fort Apache cofounder Joe Harvard can
barely even speak a full sentence without bemoaning the death of
what he considers to be alternative's "golden age."

Granted, that era was as cliquish and backwards as any other -
remember, those were the days when something as simple as a guitar
solo by J Mascis seemed positively radical to an audience of
reactionary post-punkers, forcefully weaned off anything which
smacked of "Rock." And the prevalence of Internet radio, DIY
promotion and yes, pop culture webzines in today's world has far more
positives to boast of than negatives. But just like the part of me that
mourns the loss of the Mysterious Pixies, something makes me a little
wistful for those days when loving music was about finding your own
path, when word of mouth, not artificially generated P.R. buzz, was
the currency of choice. Today, any fifteen-year-old can visit a
Livejournal group and find out how to dress like a scenester; can you
imagine nerdy, bookish Joey Santiago or chunky, androgynous Charles
Thompson surviving in that kind of environment? There's an endearing
kind of innocence to the Pixies, who took Surrealist cinema,
Pentecostal fire-and-brimstone, suburban ennui and a half-baked idea
of "punk" to forge a music that was all their own, which just doesn't
seem to exist in this era of spoon-feeding from the Pitchfork Gods.
It's unlikely that such innocence will ever come back, and maybe
that's just as well. But if you want to read about it, experience it,
prove to yourself that it ever existed, then I recommend giving Fool
the World
a try.

Reviewed by Zach Hoskins

Edited by - Carl on 06/03/2006 09:11:13
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2006 :  10:34:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/02/174852.php

But perhaps this book's greatest success lies outside the depiction of
its immediate subjects, and in its portrayal of the world from which
the Pixies emerged, the world for which their contributions are almost
immeasurable. This world is the alternative rock scene of the 1980s,
before Nirvana, for better or worse, Changed Everything; and as a
backdrop for the rise and fall of the Pixies, it's as irresistable as it is
ubiquitous.


One of the things that most resonated for me is how the book captures that Boston scene, right there on the sidewalks and in the clubs and studios. Telephone poles plastered with gig announcements for the bands of ambitious, talented, and unknown teenagers. Took me back to my own experiences in the Austin of 78-81, with its city blocks full of broke rock and literary sub-geniouses, partying like there's no tomorrow.

"Projectile management is the essence of the quality of life" - Ted Nugent
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

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http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/36706/Summer_Reading_List_2006



Mon: 06-26-06
Summer Reading List 2006

Summer officially started last week, and to help kick off this season of spending time
reading in the park, on the beach, or on the porch, here's Pitchfork's look at 10 of the most
notable recent music-related books released in the past year.

Fool the World: The Oral History of a Band Called Pixies
By Josh Frank and Caryn Ganz
St. Martin's Griffin


Pixies' blockbuster 2004 reunion brought closure to a narrative arc that had been abruptly
truncated when Charles Thompson (aka Black Francis) broke up the band via fax in 1992,
and the time is now ripe to search for clues as to how their alien surf-rock attained such
colossal influence. These interviews with the band and its associates comprise as
comprehensive an account as one could hope for. We relive the sense of portent and
wonder surrounding Pixies' formative period in mid-80s Boston; their meteoric rise to fame
in Europe on Throwing Muses' coattails; the gradual fizzle and nail-in-coffin U2 tour; and
the resurrection. We learn that Thompson loves Jolt Cola and David Lynch, the deepest
insight into his songwriting that the book offers. We learn the specifics of the contretemps
between Thompson and Deal-- her drinking and his officiousness, Deal's increasing focus
on the Breeders, and Thompson's anxiety over the attention she garnered in Pixies.

But oral histories trade critical insight for shifty veracity, and our heroes' life-stories are
revealed to be as banal as our own. The meaning of those abstruse lyrics? Thompson just
sort of made them up in the studio. The impetus behind the reunion? Nothing more
mysterious than financial opportunity overcoming time-tempered squabbles. "Sure,
corporate still sucks, it always has, it always will," explains Thompson. "But I don't give a
shit. I don't care if Clear Channel wants to buy everything." Tempting as it is to search for
a purposeful plot in Pixies' story, They Might Be Giants' John Flansburgh comes closest: "I
think it was as random as any band, and the fact that all the players really complemented
each other's skill sets so well was just a lucky circumstance." [Brian Howe]

Edited by - Carl on 06/26/2006 14:31:10
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Daisy Girl
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Posted - 06/26/2006 :  17:32:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's so good i might read it again this summer.
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Carl
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Posted - 06/26/2006 :  17:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I could get a hold of the US version, I'd certainly enjoy going over the same stuff as well as the extra bits. It's a cracking read.

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the us version is diff from the uk version???
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Carl
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Yep, Daisy, there's extra stuff about the Boston scene.


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benji
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i finally bought this book while in the city last week. read it while on holiday, and i thoroughly enjoyed it.
i think it's a very interesting and informative book.
i haven't read the earlier one released, but that sounds like a good ides from the sounds of it.
but fool the world is fantastic.
really enjoyed it.

most interesting bits were all the recordings gary smith talked about that he has that have never been released......come on gary!!!!!



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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Suicide_Samurai
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quote:
And while I'm not holding my breath, in moments of weakness the
idea of a long-awaited fifth Pixies album still makes me salivate a
little.


I know critics don't like to acknowledge the latter day Pixies albums much, but isn't the refusal to even acknowledge the existence of Trompe taking things a little bit too far?!

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Even if neither Bossa or Trompe are your favorite Pixies albums, had they been written and recorded by any one of a lot of other bands, either would be the best of that band's catalogue!


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fumanbru
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i read the book last week on holidays. i thought it was great! extremely comprehensive. lots of info and insights i wasn't aware of. i not very familiar with the business side of signing a band and the engineering involved in making an album so it was cool to get that perspective from all the people involved. and josh and caryn do a really good job in tying the whole story together.


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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  06:12:58  Show Profile  Visit danwalding's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:


I know critics don't like to acknowledge the latter day Pixies albums much, but isn't the refusal to even acknowledge the existence of Trompe taking things a little bit too far?!




I think he's suffering from 'surfer rosa and come on pilgrim'itis. It is very hard to get come on pilgrim on its own in some parts of the world, particularly on CD.

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