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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 08/18/2005 :  05:46:13  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good point: Two Step is a stonkin' marvellous song, without argument or doubt. One of the finest tracks on one of the finest albums of its time, its hallowed place in the Throwing Muses canon virtually guarantees its place in the list of alltime greats, and it certainly graces any compilation or mix CD it would find itself on.


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benji
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Posted - 08/18/2005 :  05:47:43  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'll make a statement about two step.
poor song. one of the weakest on the real ramona. that and counting backwards my least favs.



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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 08/18/2005 :  05:56:09  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, but then what do you know?

Nothing, thats what.


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starmekitten
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Posted - 08/18/2005 :  05:57:10  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Benji, you're brilliant you are.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 08/18/2005 :  11:51:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a fantastic thread. Excellent work Nic.

For Throwing Muses, I would start with Limbo as I did. Worked for me.

For Sleater-Kinney, I would start with 'All Hands On The Bad One' or 'One Beat'. For my sins, I still haven't heard The Woods (except one track which rocked like a MOFO)

Where do I start with Camper Van Beethoven? I have about ten tracks from various stages of their career I think.


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Edited by - Homers_pet_monkey on 08/18/2005 11:54:13
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The Holiday Son
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  12:02:47  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mosleyk
can you tell me if you think the Isolation Drills album is also worth getting?


I don't like it very much but again, I'm not a GBV expert.


Where do I start with The New Pornographers ? (only 3 albums I know but which one is the best ?)
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  12:09:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would say their debut, Mass Romantic, if pushed. You really can't go wrong with any of them though. All great.


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VoVat
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Posted - 08/19/2005 :  15:39:29  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
For CVB, I'd say to start with Telephone Free Landslide Victory (their first one). I think someone else (Broken Face?) gave the same advice in the CD swap thread, and I agree.

And yeah, I'd say Mass Romantic for the New Pornographers, too.

So basically, all I'm doing in this post is agreeing. It's just a much lengthier way of saying "me too."



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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 08/20/2005 :  00:51:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hehe, thanks Nathan. Anyone you wanna know where to start with?


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VoVat
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Posted - 08/20/2005 :  06:02:46  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Not that I can think of offhand, but maybe something will come to me in the near future. Just keep the thread going, so I can remember to ask when it's relevant.



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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 08/23/2005 :  23:21:41  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where do I start with Donovan? I like every song I know by him (Hurdy Gurdy Man, Mellow Yellow, Sunshine Superman, Sleep, and now Atlantis).


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darwin
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Posted - 08/24/2005 :  00:57:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My two cents:
for Throwing Muses my favorite is House Tornado and after that the debut album, but Real Ramona might be the most representative and a very good album. The cheeseman is right about Hips and Makers.

for New Pornographers I haven't heard the new album and I've only had Mass Romantic for a couple of months, but I think Electric Version is the place to start. To me it has more hooks than Mass Romantic. More likely to make you fall in love with the band.

Super Furry Animals - where to start?

Edited by - darwin on 08/24/2005 01:07:07
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whoreatthedoor
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Spain
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Posted - 08/24/2005 :  01:23:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With Loreena Mckennitt, I would start with "The Visit"


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starmekitten
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Posted - 08/24/2005 :  01:24:40  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
songbook is the super furry animals singles collection (from the first six albums) so is quite broad, I think rings around the world tends to be the best appreciated of the albums, but if you want to be chronological I think fuzzy logic is darn good.

I quite like this description from amazon
Super Furry Animals are not a band for the frail hearted. Sure, they might have an adorable name and endearingly shaggy manes. Some of their songs even start out sounding a little bit soft and gentle like Coldplay. But then singer Ghruff Rhys throws on an astronaut helmet, starts waving around a light sabre (literally) and soon the whole thing goes ballistic. The psychedelic Welsh quintet has made a career of taking perfectly good pop songs and inverting them violins, horns and magic dust

it's absolutely fair enough.
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darwin
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Posted - 08/24/2005 :  01:38:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate buying "best of albums" because being the cheap bastard that I am I will then never buy the full albums. Thanks for the advice.
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starmekitten
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Posted - 08/24/2005 :  01:47:15  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hehe I've put songbook on now and it's good because, it's the SFA, but because it's all singles there's some cracking album tracks missing so it'd be unwise to only have this one imo.

I find it hard to pick one you see, I like Guerilla and Radiator a lot too, but giving you four albums as a place to start may not be a helpful thing.
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tobafett
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USA
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Posted - 08/24/2005 :  02:03:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

Where do I start with Donovan? I like every song I know by him (Hurdy Gurdy Man, Mellow Yellow, Sunshine Superman, Sleep, and now Atlantis).



Many, if not all, of his early/mid-sixties albums have recently been remastered. they're pretty good. if you're looking for some kind of compilation, the tracklisting (i don't have this particular one--just some of the albums you mentioned above) of the troubadour looks ok. anything with Sunshine Superman, H-G Man, etc...I've not heard much from his recent album but he seems to like it if you look at his celeb.playlist on iTunes. :)

(did you know John Paul Jones played & arranged on some of his tracks? that guy is amazing...not to derail your donovan thread but check out JPJ's website and look at his bio to see how many cool people he's arranged for/played with/produced. wow.)

anyway go listen to the Sunshine Superman album. FB mentioned Donovan in some interview i heard once. "one of the stories i heard about you is that one of the first music you were turned on to was Mellow Yellow" oh yeah, absolutely. i love donovan

edit. and i totally forgot that he did 'atlantis' that FB covered on honeycomb. there ya go.

Edited by - tobafett on 08/24/2005 02:07:03
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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 08/24/2005 :  02:09:55  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I guess it's slightly on track: can anyone recommend me a good compilation for really downbeat classic soul. I'm talking like the original Dark End Of The Street, Ain't No Sunshine, that sort of thing.
If not a compilation, any recommendations in the area would be good.
Ta!


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vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 08/24/2005 :  02:14:00  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tobafett
edit. and i totally forgot that he did 'atlantis' that FB covered on honeycomb. there ya go.



Yeah, and Sleep, covered on the St Francis ep. Thanks for the recommendations.


Denis

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vilainde
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Posted - 08/26/2005 :  09:38:32  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where do I start with Queens Of The Stone Age? I saw them yesterday before the Pixies and they were really good.

Where do I start with the Saints? I only know 1 song by them (Know Yr Product) and it's great.


Denis

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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 08/27/2005 :  03:44:04  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I only have the Complete Studio Recordings, called 'Wild About You: 1976-1978'. That's definitely worth getting, a two-disc set.
Whatever you get, make sure it contains '(I'm) Stranded', 'Demolition Girl', 'This Perfect Day' and some of the covers they did.
EDIT: sorry, that referred to the Saints.


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The Holiday Son
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Posted - 08/27/2005 :  03:59:21  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Queens Of The Stone Age : I would start with "Songs for the deaf".
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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 08/27/2005 :  04:28:41  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I prefer Rated R, but thats just me.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 08/29/2005 :  10:51:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree, start with Songs Of The Deaf. It's the most immediate. Definitely get Rated R too though.

Where do I start with Can?


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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 08/29/2005 :  13:02:18  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For QOTSA I think that their debut, self titled album is essential stuff along with Songs For The Deaf.

Fire made it good.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 08/29/2005 :  13:13:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I must get hold of their debut sometime.


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shineoftheever
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Posted - 08/31/2005 :  19:29:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i love nubbin's


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VoVat
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Posted - 08/31/2005 :  19:39:26  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
for New Pornographers I haven't heard the new album and I've only had Mass Romantic for a couple of months, but I think Electric Version is the place to start. To me it has more hooks than Mass Romantic. More likely to make you fall in love with the band.


I honestly found Electric Version a bit disappointing after Mass Romantic. I mean, it's a fun album, but the songs all kind of blend together. I guess that's not necessarily bad if they're all good songs, but I prefer a little more variety, I guess.

That doesn't necessarily mean TEV is a bad place to start, though, I suppose.



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HeywoodJablome
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Posted - 08/31/2005 :  20:48:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, the new Queens is probably the only one you should avoid in my opinion.
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shineoftheever
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Posted - 09/01/2005 :  00:39:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 09/08/2005 :  13:32:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

I agree, start with Songs Of The Deaf. It's the most immediate. Definitely get Rated R too though.

Where do I start with Can?


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So doesn't anyone know about Can?


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whoreatthedoor
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  04:58:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Godspeed You Black Emperor! has already been asked?


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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  05:02:39  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
GYBE, start with Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennae To Heaven, that, I would say, is the band's defining moment.


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whoreatthedoor
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  06:08:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks! Here I go!


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vilainde
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Posted - 10/06/2005 :  02:05:19  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Reviving the thread. The question about Can remains unanswered and I'm curious about them too.

Where do I start with Arthur Russell? I really have to get into this guy, he's mentioned so many times among other artists I love.


Denis

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