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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 08/16/2005 : 07:45:41
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Sum up the artists that really had an influence over your life.
Make the difference between an artist you love and who is echoing a part of your original self & artists that changed your natural perception.
For example: I love the Velvet Underground, but I can't say that their music changed my ways, as it was finally echoing something I "knew". To me it sounded natural, evident and that's why I love it so much.
Bowie, which I knew before the Velvets and sort of prepared the path, really had an influence over me because he opened my mind to soul music, modern beats music, folk and his whole era.
For literature it's the same.
I very recently read the Work of Nietzsche. I love him, he is misunderstood and very modern. I read things I always wanted to read and that sound natural... therefore I am NOT influenced by him.
You see what I mean...
Now I can sum up the very few artists that had an inflence over me:
In music they are:
Pixies/Black: more than an influence, a GROUND
Bowie
Pere ubu
Ornette Coleman
Marc Almond
GROSSE FLEUR DE LYS!!! |
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 08:04:23
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Oh, and if you can try to describe your interpretation of "an influence" and if in the end such thing ever exists, let us know!
GROSSE FLEUR DE LYS!!! |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 08:11:40
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My favorite of your many threads, JJJJhwolsky.
still influenced by but no longer love
Lou Reed.
I've long stopped needing to listen to him daily. But when I was 15 his music blew open my musical, artistic, social, sartorial, political and interpersonal horizons.
still love but have never been influenced by
Nietzsche.
I wrote my honors thesis on his works. He was so right about so many things. But he did not influence me.
still love, still influenced by
A.S. Byatt. Reading her is physically relaxing and dreamy and whimsical, like falling alseep inside a warm breeze.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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callahan
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Posted - 08/16/2005 : 08:17:52
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The artist who has had the most influence on me is Nick Cave. I was listening to him in the eighties when he was punk rock with The Birthday Party. Their music opened me up to alot of punk rock. As Nick ventured off to do his "solo" thing with Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds he became more experimental and "arty" for lack of a better word. It took me a few releases for me to get into his new work. But, he put out an album called Your Funeral, My trial and I was hooked. As his catreer has developed and changed I feel real connection with each new album. I almost feel that what he releases is somehow connected to who I am at the time. It's almost like I've grown up to his music.
I passed a cow and the cow was brown. My pyjamas clung to me like a shroud! Like a shroud! |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 08:29:39
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 08:30:15
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Writing, I used to think a lot about copying other artists - I wrote one paragraph last summer I was immensely proud of, then rereading Thomas Pynchon's V for the first time in a year found the same paragraph almost verbatim - I don't sweat it so much anymore, I see writing or making music now as a shared activity, maybe there's no such thing as originality, just degrees of unoriginality. Found this in a Natalie Goldberg book:
'Great lovers realize that they are what they are in love with. That is what happened to Allen Ginsberg when he wanted to write so that Jack Kerouac could understand him: " . . . being in love with Jack Kerouac he discovered he was Jack Kerouac: that's something love knows."'
so apart from Pynchon:
Bill Hicks is one too for making awful truths hilarious, ever since I found him on a Tool album, who in turn really tweaked my perceptions as to what a concert can be. I posted before about their generous live setup.
William Burroughs, new for me was how he satirises control systems not from a moral point of view but just by stressing they look like an exhausting business.
Flannery O'Connor I can't really say why except all I knew was I wanted to write after reading Wiseblood.
Samuel Beckett changed how I feel about including a plot in a story.
David Icke, Englands' resident crazyman I hold very dear too. He's not to most people's tastes but he's got soul.
Henry Miller, I found all that is really important to me in a novel is a goodstrong current flowing through it, the rest (character arcs, plot, grammar, syntax) I can take or leave if that's present.
Music: Bird, Effbee, Django, David Byrne.
Painting: Chagall, Grosz, Crumb.
And anybody here who's posted a picture or story or song or poem or made me laugh.
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Develop interest in life as you see it; in people, things, literature, music -- the world is so rich, simply throbbing with rich treasures, beautiful souls and interesting people. Forget yourself. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 08:35:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Newo
maybe there's no such thing as originality, just degrees of unoriginality.
who said that? |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 08:39:30
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New Mexico and Southern Colorado...
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When will Lyle Workman find Frank again? |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 09:35:56
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= Customer of the Week =
Costa Rica
10677 Posts
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 08:35:54 Show Profile Email Poster Reply with Quote
quote:Originally posted by Newo
maybe there's no such thing as originality, just degrees of unoriginality.
who said that?
Me, maybe.
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Develop interest in life as you see it; in people, things, literature, music -- the world is so rich, simply throbbing with rich treasures, beautiful souls and interesting people. Forget yourself. |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 09:51:03
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Artists whose music changed me: The Clash, Lou Reed, The Pixies.
Writers: It all started with Kerouac, then Ginsberg's poetry and finally Burroughs.
wilhelm
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 11:51:53
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My big influences:
The Pixies taught me that it was ok to have a shimmery pop song like "Here Comes Your Man" on the same record as a screamy violent "Tame" and a sexy, slinky "Hey."
The Beatles taught me that no two songs have to sound alike, and that the recording studio could be a place of great inspiration and experimentation.
They Might Be Giants showed me that humor and music could mix and not turn out to be "Weird Al" Yankovic.
George Harrison showed me that a belief in God and singing about it could not only be doable, but could produce brilliant results and not sound like boring 'inspirational' music.
John Coltrane taught me that no matter what my concept of music is/was, it will always change with time and that challenging the boundaries of what could be called 'music' is really the only way to grow.
Mike Watt taught me that punk was an attitude and a way of handling yourself that had nothing to do with the music you played or the clothes you wear.
-Brian
If you move I shoots!
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 08/16/2005 : 13:13:20
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Brian taught me the word "slinky".
I jumped on the Frank Black Bandwagon/'Cause Pixies are so 2004 |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 14:06:04
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quote:
Originally posted by jediroller
Brian taught me the word "slinky".
I jumped on the Frank Black Bandwagon/'Cause Pixies are so 2004
I had to rub my eyes there for a sec. I thought I read "skanky".
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 14:42:03
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I would have to say that the first artists to influence me were Pink Floyd. To be exposed to music such as this at such an early age was quite a treat. It's not the easiest music to get into but when you do...........well for me it showed the possibilities within music (and without it).
Most kids my age were brought up on the crap that was played on the major radio stations, and indeed I too found pleasure at the time in their simple pop tunes. Pink Floyd however, laid down the foundations for the music I love today. The Beatles later helped to reinforce this, more through showing how a pop song could sound, but it was Pink Floyd who got to me first and it was they who showed me that not all songs must have a pretty tune.
Pixies later went on to reinforce what both Pink Floyd and The Beatles had taught me seperately at such a young age, but they rather ingeniously did it as one band. And to a level that no other band had done before, nor since. They can draw a smile from ear to ear with a perfect pop song (ala The Beatles), then scare you half to death on the next track (see Pink Floyd - The Machine in particular did this to me as a child).
If there are three artists that I can't help but find inspiration from when writing my own songs today, it's those three.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 23:15:42
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Originally posted by kathryn
I had to rub my eyes there for a sec. I thought I read "skanky".
No, that one I already knew... I have a friend who teaches in a girls' college :)
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2005 : 00:35:20
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Nietzsche
Fraggle Rock
Pixies
Michael Ende
Parents
Kubrick
R.E.M.
Tobias Schwitzgebel
Bartomeu Prohens
The last two are a friend and an old teacher, so you don't know them.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 08/17/2005 : 11:15:23
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2005 : 23:59:04
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It's the truth. I still have a Gobo puppet on my bed.
TMI, coming from a 24 old male, I guess.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2005 : 03:56:54
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quote:
Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
It's the truth. I still have a Gobo puppet on my bed.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro
And you wonder why the ladies aren't flocking to your bed...
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2005 : 04:16:08
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I still wonder why not.
Perhaps I should take out my scottish sword.
And my crossbow.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2005 : 04:39:51
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Yeah, and make the horse sleep somewhere else, that could help too.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2005 : 09:54:55
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TMBG sort of got me into music in general. I'm not saying I didn't listen to music before that, but they really broadened my horizons.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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