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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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 Posted - 09/19/2005 : 10:32:13
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Originally posted by lonely persuader
the whole accordian has the eastern european cold snowy feel to it
That's not just Eastern Europe, that's Quebec, too. Very Montreal, eh?
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2005 : 02:54:39
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take your point kathryn.. I hear vampires (romanian), Laika (russian dog) and that whole thing...
it may be unintentinonal, or subconsious, but i get that whole feel...
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 09/20/2005 : 18:11:18
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arcade fire could come from a rats arse and then claim they were aliens from mars but i'd still think they're a great band.
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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
431 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 03:32:27
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Originally posted by charlesthompson
i dont see how they can be compared with the pixies in anyway
They´re a funny looking band with 4 members.
They have a "Kim Deal" (female who sings the odd line, sings one or two tracks on each album)
They have a unique sound.
They sometimes sing foreign lyrics.
Rebellion (Lies) smells of I Bleed.
2 band members sleep with eachother.
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 05:48:50
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Hmm...
Maybe I'm devoid of humor but these are not reasons to compare them with Pixies.
Then that damned Radiotête band can be compared with Pixies:
They are funny looking (more ugly than funny, though)
They are four
They speak an alien so-called intelectual language.
Their whole songs sound like I Bleed
Same for any crappy corporate alternative bands.
Velvet Underground can be compared to Pixies.
They where original for some weird reasons.
They played simple songs you can play along.
They had a moody leader (though Frank Balck is much nicer that Lou Reed I believe)
Bowie is fond of them.
They had a sexy chanteuse.
They are still remembered nearly 40 years after their first album.
So will be Pixies.
So won't be Radiotête or Arcade fire. Soon to be forgotten.
Thank U
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 16:15:43
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Boring Wolsky!!
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2005 : 11:51:00
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Arcade Fire will soon be forgotten?
Maybe in the pop culture since things come and go aggressively, but when it comes to indie bands where excellent first and second impressions are made, they'll soon become reference points.
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2005 : 00:21:17
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Would'nt bet my house...
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2005 : 20:07:02
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they're playing here tomorrow. don't have tix. hope the scalpers have cheap ones!!!!
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2005 : 03:15:05
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Listenned to this album again yesterday....
The problem with those bands is simple.
They have good influences, undoubtedly good taste...
Is it enough, though?
Journalists may have good taste, but they merely are journalists...
The songs sound like déjà entendu. It's highly "new wave" in my opinion and i can hardly find an authentic "life" in their voices.
New wave bands in the early 80's (and late 70's for some) did try as hard as they could to sound modern. They had a few references but as they could hardly imitate them as most of them were in a "punk approach" and therefore unskilled, it gave a style that for some bands have dramatically got old, but for some it became a real trademark.
I think of Kraftwerk and Suicide influenced bands like Depeche Mode and Soft Cell. They were and still are unique and have ORIGINAL songs, in the CONTENT very often. (especially soft cell, have an ear and listen to the words and between them!!)
Now bands like Arcade, White stripes and consort don't HEAD FOR MODERNITY and are not CHARISMATICAL enough to play with brio the post-modern stuff... Like some Bowie or Neil Hammond or else can...
That's all.
That's true
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2005 : 07:16:40
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 09/29/2005 : 12:12:10
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Gosh - is it really so complicated? The first time I heard Surfer Rosa my only thought was 'Jesus, that fucking rocks' not 'how does that append to the history of modern music'.
I must admit, when I heard 'Lies (Rebellion)' it was a turn around and look at the stereo moment.
I dont know if Arcade Fire will last the test of time but I would acknowledge that sometimes the critics get it half right. |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2005 : 12:47:49
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Seeing them on sunday. I can't wait. Funeral was my #1 (or maybe 2) album of 2004.
and you are ill prepared to fight
living in a world of soft and white
in air conditioned battle zones
I pity you!
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2005 : 14:11:40
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hWolsky, the Arcade Fire has been knocking on your door for many months now. You just need to open your door and accept them in your heart.
Do it, or I'll have to punish you!
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2005 : 14:12:58
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Please, accept them... Arms wide open...
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2005 : 20:41:10
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I saw em I saw em!!!! I got a tix for face value and a poster!!!
You have got to go see them!!! It was an experience.
In a word: fantastic
WOW!!!! So much talent on one stage... and they all switch around instruments and everything.
GO SEE THEM NOW!!!!!!!!
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2005 : 01:39:05
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were they banging on helmets and that too? i've managed to touch win.. owned.
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Excuse me please
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Posted - 09/30/2005 : 05:20:48
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 09/30/2005 : 05:59:47
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great to here that you got tickets daisy! i keep hearing that they are AMAZING in concert. i'm checking them out tonight in winnipeg. i told all my friends that they have to check this out! $20!! insanity. plus the opening bands are pretty good too. but tickets sold out super fast so there are only a handful of us going. i love funeral and the recently remasterd ep.
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2005 : 07:25:13
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Originally posted by Sprite
Gosh - is it really so complicated? The first time I heard Surfer Rosa my only thought was 'Jesus, that fucking rocks' not 'how does that append to the history of modern music'.
I must admit, when I heard 'Lies (Rebellion)' it was a turn around and look at the stereo moment.
I dont know if Arcade Fire will last the test of time but I would acknowledge that sometimes the critics get it half right.
I understand.
When I first listenned to the Pixies, it sounded no nothing else in the world for it was the first band that made me want to pay real attention to rock music. Later I discovered Nirvana... But this band provided me nothing I DID NOT ALREADY KNOW.
Pixies went first. they filled up what was needed to be filled up (or something). It could have been different if I had fall in love with Nirvana... I did hear some Nirvana tunes before knowing the Pixies though... and it did not catch me at all.
This is the same for modern bands. Why should I enjoy Franz Ferdinand. This dynamic in the guitars and the voice was already provided to me by the Talking Heads in a much better way. I can't help it.
MUSIC IS A NECESSITY, so you don't choose.
YOU take what you need and what you need is what you want.
Voila, so even with the best will in the world. I can't be attracted by Arcade Fire. There is NOTHING NEW FOR ME in it. Once you ate a great meal, you're not hungry anymore even if they give you the most delicious Choucroute in the world!
Body and Soul are 1.
Thanks for your comprehension of the world.
"Wolsky the so-called fascist"
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 09/30/2005 : 08:16:31
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wolsky, take the music you need, and shut up about the music you don't.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
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Posted - 09/30/2005 : 09:25:41
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I don't really see that much similarity between Franz Ferdinand and the Talking Heads. Or AF and the Pixies for that matter.
and you are ill prepared to fight
living in a world of soft and white
in air conditioned battle zones
I pity you!
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onehappyprick
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/30/2005 : 10:11:07
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hWolsky, just because you've heard something that isn't completely revolutionary, doesn't mean you can't love it. Yes, when you do hear something completely new thatis so much better, but so many bands today are just rehashing what bands like the pixies (and nirvand - same thing) did, but I can still love them. As long as it's good music, made for the right reasons with the right attitude I don't see why you can't fall in love with any band, ol or new, revolutionary or not. And by the way who have you heard who AF sound the same as???!?!?!?!?!!! (and live - oh sweet Jesus!) Rant over
I said "I wanna be a singer like Lou Reed"
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 09/30/2005 : 23:11:40
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Originally posted by fumanbru
great to here that you got tickets daisy! i keep hearing that they are AMAZING in concert. i'm checking them out tonight in winnipeg. i told all my friends that they have to check this out! $20!! insanity. plus the opening bands are pretty good too. but tickets sold out super fast so there are only a handful of us going. i love funeral and the recently remasterd ep.
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"
very cool... :) yeah, unfortunatley I missed the openers. Hehehe I thought doors were at 8 but they were really at 6 pm!
Like to hear what you think... It's part concert and half opera almost. Amazing!! Hard to describe all the passion and energy and how well those guys mesh.
:)
Anyway just a few more weeks until I hope you guys get to come down for the the New Pornographers.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2005 : 06:16:23
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AMAZING SHOW!! i knew it would be good but i was completely blown away! sound was amazing. energy was out of this world. looks like they are having so much fun on the stage. ya daisy- totally agree. the show is part opera. they are very theatrical on stage. i've seen them on letterman before and thought win was a bit too cool. but eing him live he really has a great personality on stage. really chatted it up with the audience and nice to see him smile! if you haven't seen this band live you really have to check them out!
daisy- yes we are coming to minni to see the new pornographers! another band that i know won't disappoint!
and hWolsky- arent you a bowie fan? they did queen bitch! it was fuckin awesome! 
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 10/01/2005 : 11:21:50
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fumanbru!! I am so happy you are coming to Minny. Can't wait to meet you and the Mrs. Fumanbru!
Anyway, that show was awesome and you are so right part of what made it so good is that they were having such a blast.
It was so cool because the tall guy with the chin lenghth hair (sorry don't know his name) got on top one of the amps and then grabed on to and then in a playground fashon walked along the oppisite part of the balcony with his drum sticks.
I would see them again in a heart beat.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2005 : 05:24:52
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here's a good article i just read.
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/arts/story.html?id=b4fdea42-1cdc-46bc-a628-42c39f67e5b3
Arcade on fire: POP MUSIC I Life has been 'totally bizarre' for Canadian band Arcade Fire since its rise to It Band
Kerry Gold
Vancouver Sun
Saturday, October 01, 2005
Picture this: You're standing on a stage, playing the same song you've played for two years straight, only this time David Bowie, tricked out in white suit and hat, is singing it with you.
Or how about this.
You're about to emerge from a stretch limo but you are reluctant, because there are paparazzi going crazy because they think you're Reese Witherspoon.
Or this. Movie star Heather Graham is boogying in the aisles to your televised performance. Or this. You attend a dismally cliche after-party where celebrity types are binging on cocaine, and you last all of two minutes.
You're the members of Arcade Fire, and you're lives are on fire, because you've been thrown into the most absurd out-of-body experience that a group of artistically inclined, alternative folkie, pop rockers could find themselves thrown into. (Arcade Fire plays here, Friday.)
Listening to drummer Jeremy Gara tell it, it's like that scene from Peter Sellers' The Party, where his character attends a Hollywood party and discovers that as far as fitting in goes, he's an alien freak.
"We lived the life for a couple of days . . . we all went to this ridiculous nasty coke party and we're like, 'Okay! This is so shitty. We'll check it out and leave after two minutes.'
"We're going to explore [these things] and realize it's not for us. And it just reaffirms how we do things, and it's like, 'Okay we are doing the right thing, because these people are all douche bags.'
"I mean, the whole thing right now is out of control. The weirdest things are happening. As long as we continue to think of it as totally bizarre, I think we're all okay."
He doesn't elaborate on this point, but he doesn't have to. It's a dangerous position for any artist to be in, the object of a celebrity love-in. And they definitely do love them. They have already graced Time magazine's cover, and Rolling Stone, Spin, Mojo, and the other biggies have pronounced their brilliance. Bowie had long ago championed the band on his website, once he heard the song No Cars Go. Coldplay's Chris Martin can't stop gushing over their debut album, Funeral, even admitting that upon hearing it he thought: "We were all prepared to get day jobs." And even U2 has got in on the act, convincing Arcade Fire to open for them in Ottawa and Montreal.
If Arcade Fire feel like aliens right about now, it's because their ascendancy into the leagues of bona fide It Band has been frightfully swift, profound, and too bizarre for anybody to comprehend. It's as if the moment they emerged with a song, the entire universe conspired to usher them to their proper path. And this is not the triumphant story of marketing genius. It's quite the contrary because everything they have done has gone against the status quo.
Just look at them. They are anywhere from six to nine musicians who play an urgent cacaphony of complicated but enthralling sounds that sound familiar yet quite new, with a clear nod to David Byrne and Talking Heads, and influences as varied as Neil Young and Debussy.
Songwriting duties fall to husband-and-wife team Win Butler, who is a 6-foot, 5-inch Texan transplant and accordian-playing Regine Chassagne, who is a Haitian-born student of medieval music. They met at McGill University and eventually joined up with multi-instrumentalist Richard Reed Parry and bass player Kingsbury, which led to the recording of Funeral -- the album that started all this celebrity pomp and circumstance.
Funeral was released on a tiny U.S. label called Merge Records, whose biggest selling act up until that point had been Neutral Milk Hotel. Gara joined the band shortly after the release of the record, as did violinist Sarah Neufeld. Last spring, horn player Pietro Amato and violinist Owen Pallett signed on for touring duty.
Wearing waistcoats and demure dresses, often taking the show from stage through the aisles and into the lobby if not the street, they are hardly the stuff of arena rock 'n' roll. Yet here they are, about to play the PNE Forum on Oct. 7, and there they were, about to emerge somewhat fearfully from a limo outside Radio City Music Hall three weeks ago for the televised Fashion Rocks show.
"We were like, 'We're not getting out of the f------ car. This is so embarrassing.' I'm sure it's fine for some bands, but let's keep it real, you know what I'm saying?" asks Gara.
On the upside, they got to see Bowie at rehearsal in shorts -- not something you see every day -- and they discovered he's got a punk rock tattoo on his calf. Still a young dude, after all.
If it all began somewhere, the credit might go to the music review website Pitchfork. Indie music fans will know the site well, since it's one of the most discriminating sites around, giving big breaks to previous unknowns like Hot Hot Heat. In an act that parallels the days when radio DJs actually made similar pronouncements, Pitchfork is leading the way in terms of turning the independent minded subculture onto new music.
It's a trend not lost on the major music publications. Arcade Fire is Pitchfork's proudest moment.
"It has come up a lot recently because we're on tour with our friends Wolf Parade, they just got a 9.2 on Pitchfork this week, and it's undeniable -- that's going to mean a pretty significant step," says Gara.
"Especially in the States, people seem to really really just do whatever Pitchfork says. And it bridges this weird gap, that if you get a good review in Pitchfork, suddenly it legitimizes the band."
Of course, if the universe continues to rain adulation on the band from Montreal, it will only get weirder. Gara knows this, but he's too busy wanting to get back into the studio to let it worry him.
"All we want right now is to play Canada, see people we haven't seen for a long time, and then disappear for a long time."
The band has purchased a 100-year-old former Presbyterian church on the outskirts of Montreal and transformed it into a recording studio. Almost as soon as they finish their last show in Vancouver, they'll be immersed in a new album -- the question is, will it continue to inspire a love-in with the rest of the world?
Gara knows that familiarity breeds contempt, and that their newness gave them an advantage.
"When a band comes out with a record, it's harder to judge harshly if it's brand new," he says. "And people have that weird ownership thing, that they think they discovered it first, which helps bands. But now that people know us, we know the [second record] will be judged a lot more critically for better or worse."
"But nobody is feeling any pressure about the second record and that crap, because everything that's happened has been on our terms up until now.
"That's not going to change. We're kind of like an army. No one can bully us around."
after reading it i thought ya, there are a few similarities to frank. well resepected by accomplished musicians, marketing approach of less is more, great live, great lyrics, intense passion for the music- no real desire to be a "rock star".. the first time i heard them i thought this is a great sound- somewhat new. and everyone has influences and this will show in the music which i think is great.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2005 : 05:31:10
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and here's a pic i took from the show on friday! a couple of guys from the opening band wolf parade came on to jam with them during "wake up".
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!" |
Edited by - fumanbru on 10/02/2005 05:52:13 |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2005 : 13:51:04
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wow thanks fumanbru. That was a really cool article.
Yeah, I agree with AF coke parties are no fun if you're not into coke.
It's really cool to hear that they will be recording again soon. And how cool is it that they bought an old church to record in.
That's really cool that they also run around more and take the music out into the streets sometimes... i think First Ave was so packed that would have been impossible unless they crowd surfed.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2005 : 08:07:06
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The show last night: HOLY SHIT.
and you are ill prepared to fight
living in a world of soft and white
in air conditioned battle zones
I pity you!
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2005 : 06:29:14
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It seems like bands have emphasized intriguing shows, lately. (Go! Team, etc)
It seems like the last 10 years have been "look at me, i'm sad, and lonely. Boo hoo!"
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onehappyprick
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/05/2005 : 13:22:49
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| OK, back to the original topic, I've notived a few rancom, pointles similarities between Pixies and Arcade Fire. Arcade Fire are about to support U2, as did the Pixies. Arcade Fire made some demos, which were then released as an EP(as in some of the Purple Tape becoming Come on Pilgrim EP), followed soon after by a masterpiece (Funeral - Surfer Rosa). I know that Funeral is qtheir debut and quite recent, but it will be a classic. Hopefully they stick with the trend and record a poppier Doolittle type album, a more experimental album (Bossanova) and then releasing a heavy as hell weird classic album. These are all completely pointless and mean nothing but I really love Arcade Fire and Pixies and have a lot of time on my hands. I'm sure I thought of more but oh well. |
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soyuber
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 10/10/2005 : 09:57:21
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quote:
Originally posted by George42
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Originally posted by charlesthompson
i read a magazine that said that "arcade fire" have a thing about them unseen since the pixies...something along those lines. and i bought the cd (having already been impressed with a song) and i listened to it. i like a few songs off the cd but i dont see how they can be compared with the pixies in anyway :S .. maybe im wrong..maybe the magazine is... i duno, opinions would be aprechiated
Arcade Fire is great. they remind me of the Pixies not from their sound, but b/c they provided music listeners with something original and refreshing. lets face it, i can't think of many bands that sound like Arcade Fire....similar sentiment about the Pixies. that's how the two bands are comparable, IMO.
I'm a humble guy with healthy desire
actually, when I first heard "Funeral," I immediately thought that they sounded similar to !!!.
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2005 : 02:15:17
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its as infectious as the pixies...
"If there has ever been such a thing as a genius in the history of popular music, it's Beefheart"
- John Peel
"I heard echoes of his music in some of the records I listened to last week and I'll hear more echoes in records that I listen to this week."- John Peel |
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milo
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 08:14:22
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Didn't want to start a whole new thread for this, but that new Strokes song (Juicebox I think) - I heard it and straight away thought "Planet of Sound".
The tempo, bassline, production, and especially the guitar licks in the middle all scream TLM era Pixies. |
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