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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 08/02/2005 :  22:28:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone get this? Im wondering what that extra song sounds like

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Etienne
- FB Fan -

Japan
115 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2005 :  01:31:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You mean Atlantis ?
I bought the Japanese version of Honeycomb and Atlantis is my favorite song...
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2005 :  16:38:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really? Do you think youd be able to email it to me? Let me know thru PM

Thanks Alot

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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2005 :  17:15:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or, you could buy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know I'm living in a few glass houses myself, but, come on, not here, not now...

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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2005 :  18:47:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I cant buy it cause i dont have a credit card at the moment to get an import cd.

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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2005 :  19:11:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright, fair enough, how 'bout you send me $37.99 (I've looked, "Atlantis" ain't available at any of the $.99 stores) cash, check, or money order and I'll buy it for you at amazon.com or any other retail outlet of your choice and send it to you, or if you don't feel good about that, ask me or any of your other brothers and sisters "in all things Frank" here at "frankblack.net" to buy it for your early birthday present! KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN? BABY NEEDS A NEW PAIR OF SHOES!

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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2005 :  19:59:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think i am going to wait until the winter holidays to ask for this!!

I have purchased 7 copies of reg HC so far. I am keeping 3 or 4 and giving the rest away. i promised one to a dj at a college station if he hasn't gotten his copy already!!!

I do want to hear the bonus track!!!!
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2005 :  21:14:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ive bought every single frank
release but i cant pay 38 bucks for one song

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*edited to not take up the whole page*

Edited by - Skatealex1 on 08/04/2005 19:49:24
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moro
- FB Fan -

Italy
192 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  09:16:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skatealex1

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Ive bought every single frank release but i cant pay 38 bucks for one song

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I bought Cult of Ray, then I bought it again with the bonus disc. I bought the Self Titled, then I bought it again with the bonus disc. I bought Pistolero, then again I bought the japanese version with the bonus track. I bought Dog in the Sand, then again I bought the japanese version with the bonus track, and then I bought the extended version with the 4 acoustic songs. Now I've learned the lesson and I finally learned that japanese cd's got bonus stuff . So this time I've waited and didn't buy Honeycomb at first, but waited for my japanese import to come. So I paid a lot of bucks but not for one song only!
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tomwhite
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
58 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  09:35:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what bonus tracks does the self titled have?
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moro
- FB Fan -

Italy
192 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  09:38:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tomwhite

what bonus tracks does the self titled have?



sorry, I meant FB and The Catholics self titled....which does not have bonus tracks, but it came with the bonus disc of All my ghosts Ep.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  09:47:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought FB&C import had Le Cigar Volante on it...or was that Dog In The Sand? I do remember an import of FB&C which came out months and months ahead of U.S. release (I still kick myself for not buying it back in '98) on the shelves of a couple indie stores near me...it did have a bonus track (not a second disc) on it, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was...maybe Humboldt County Massacre?

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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moro
- FB Fan -

Italy
192 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  09:54:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

I thought FB&C import had Le Cigar Volante on it...or was that Dog In The Sand? I do remember an import of FB&C which came out months and months ahead of U.S. release (I still kick myself for not buying it back in '98) on the shelves of a couple indie stores near me...it did have a bonus track (not a second disc) on it, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was...maybe Humboldt County Massacre?

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN



Le cigare volante was the bonus track for the japanese edition of Dog in the Sand. And the japanese editon of Pistolero contained Valley of our Hope as a bonus track. Then we have Dog in the Sand with the 4 acoustic songs and I think that's it as far as releases with bonus tracks are concerned ( and now we have Honeycomb of course ). And, as already said, we have some releases with bonus discs.
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tomwhite
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
58 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  10:42:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have been very close to buying japanese dog in the sand and pistolero but was put off by the high price(i was looking on musicstack) are they really worth the effort and money? i had a look at hmv.co.jp but could not get past the language barrier to order.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  11:07:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think hmv.co.jp have an english version, don't they?!
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tomwhite
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
58 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  11:41:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah, the tab for english is at the bottom of the page. they only have normal copies of dog in the sand and pistolero. does anyone know of a good ebay seller located in japan who could source this stuff? it probably the easiest way.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  12:12:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have the Japanese PISTOLERO...it is definately worth the $40 bucks (if it's still available). The track line up is better than the U.S./Europe version in my opinion. It starts with I WANT ROCK AND ROLL, then goes into BAD HARMONY, followed by WESTERN STAR before I SWITCHED YOU. The album ends with the bonus track VALLEY OF OUR HOPE, which is overlong, but nevertheless a cool Frank song. Also, there are some typos on the case which are interesting. 85 WEEKS is actually spelled out EIGHTY FIVE WEEKS, and SO. BAY is misprinted as SO, BAY. Theres also a cool little sticker included of a scale with two feet on it, and above printed FB&C. Im a little confused by this, other than if they are referring to Frank's weight...I can't be sure...but it is a cool little import. Also, my Japanese version of CULT OF RAY has a spot-on perfect extra track live version of MEN IN BLACK which sounds EXACTLY like the studio cut...it's amazing!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  15:47:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
me not knowing much of recordings... why is the japaneese version different and why is it usually "better" in terms of a bonus track and other things??? And why does it cost so much more?? Is it an exchange rate thing??? thank u!!
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  16:00:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're not so much better as they are interesting because sometimes the track listings vary...and the addition of bonus tracks is exciting. The interesting thing is that a lot of 'imports' are produced by a foreign market subsidiary of a major label and not targeted for their own, but rather they are redirected to the origin country. For instance, my 'import' COR was pressed under a label called 'DRAGNET' in Japan under American Recordings. The packaging is similar, you get a cool japanese lyric booklet, and a bonus track. But American Recordings hired 'DRAGNET' to create this for the American or European market, label it an 'import', and price it outrageously for collectors and hard-core fans. The Japanese never see this version on their shelves! In fact, they see what we see here in the States or Europe. It's all for money. But they are rare, and it's fun to collect.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  16:03:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
skatealex. please edit your post.


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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  16:34:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Edit which PoSt ?

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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  17:09:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the long one that stretches the page x3


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Edited by - PixieSteve on 08/04/2005 17:09:33
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2005 :  19:49:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
d0ne but it still appears in the quotes

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PixieSteve
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Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2005 :  07:50:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh yeah :(




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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2005 :  12:13:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I NEED THE DAMN SONG!!!!!!!!!!!

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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2005 :  16:33:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

They're not so much better as they are interesting because sometimes the track listings vary...and the addition of bonus tracks is exciting. The interesting thing is that a lot of 'imports' are produced by a foreign market subsidiary of a major label and not targeted for their own, but rather they are redirected to the origin country. For instance, my 'import' COR was pressed under a label called 'DRAGNET' in Japan under American Recordings. The packaging is similar, you get a cool japanese lyric booklet, and a bonus track. But American Recordings hired 'DRAGNET' to create this for the American or European market, label it an 'import', and price it outrageously for collectors and hard-core fans. The Japanese never see this version on their shelves! In fact, they see what we see here in the States or Europe. It's all for money. But they are rare, and it's fun to collect.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN




very interesting!!! does anyone know who realizes the extra profits? The artist, I hope?

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 08/05/2005 16:33:56
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2792 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2005 :  22:03:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this page is wider than the Atlantic.

"You're constantly in a state of becoming"
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MMD
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
233 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2005 :  21:17:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

They're not so much better as they are interesting because sometimes the track listings vary...and the addition of bonus tracks is exciting. The interesting thing is that a lot of 'imports' are produced by a foreign market subsidiary of a major label and not targeted for their own, but rather they are redirected to the origin country. For instance, my 'import' COR was pressed under a label called 'DRAGNET' in Japan under American Recordings. The packaging is similar, you get a cool japanese lyric booklet, and a bonus track. But American Recordings hired 'DRAGNET' to create this for the American or European market, label it an 'import', and price it outrageously for collectors and hard-cdexter1ore fans. The Japanese never see this version on their shelves! In fact, they see what we see here in the States or Europe. It's all for money. But they are rare, and it's fun to collect.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN




very interesting!!! does anyone know who realizes the extra profits? The artist, I hope?



I have too much respect for Frank to think that he would try and rip off his fans like that. Sounds like a record label ploy.

“Not since Orson Welles had one man so many fingers in so many pies, and been the chef as well. And then looked like he went and ate them all. The guy was out of control.”

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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2005 :  08:34:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Received Japanese Honeycomb today.
Only got the chance to play Atlantis once
[my thinking is it's quite good]
although it sounded like 3 or 4 people/cats
singing the chorus together & FB's voice
to be fairly indistinct in the mix.

** I'll Be Blue, True Blue, Jaina Blue **

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the thing
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
313 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2005 :  11:27:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Atlantis is available on the CD accompanying Comes with a Smile (cwas.hinah.com) an excellent music magazine also with interview with the man himself...


Forget the cults I got me a whole church!
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scruvs
= Cult of Ray =

353 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2005 :  00:14:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by the thing

Atlantis is available on the CD accompanying Comes with a Smile (cwas.hinah.com) an excellent music magazine also with interview with the man himself...


Forget the cults I got me a whole church!



Thanks Thing. This sounds like a great way to get Atlantis. I'm going try it out.


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pmjk
- FB Fan -

Ireland
92 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2005 :  08:23:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bye the mag
"comes with a smile" and get a CD with this track

http://cwas.hinah.com/currentissue/

CD - Vol 15
1. Espers - Firefly Refrain
2. Picastro - Shorter Hard
3. Richard Buckner - Pull (live on RCF, France May 2003)
4. Sleater-Kinney - Entertain (live on XFM, UK April 2005)
5. The American Analog Set - Everything Ends In Spring (edit)
6. Aaron Stout - The Ballad of Mr Lamatta
7. Marissa Nadler - Flora Barone, Queen of the Vaudeville Throne
8. Four Tet - Both When I'm Alone and We Both Are
9. Tremulous Monk - Tea Hippy
10. Laura Veirs - Flotsam 'n' Jetsam
11. David Eugene Edwards - Nobody 'Cept You
12. Vetiver (featuring Hairy Fairy) - You May Be Blue (live at Les Vieilles Charrue, Brittany July 2005)
13. colleen - The Zither Song
14. Laura Cantrell - Hammer and Nails
15. Pacific Ocean Fire - My Drinking Days Are Done
16. Maria Taylor - The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face
17. Frank Black - Atlantis

http://cwas.hinah.com/currentissue/
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