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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:10:29  Show Profile
uhm, where is this all going ? i think everbyody, including dave n., floop, MCA, okay, just everbody, should step back an reconsider what is going on. and should consider that pride or ego isn't an answer.
obviously things are not very funny any more.

this site/forum is a special thing, as many people say here. from my observation, people here are ways more nice, brighter, more considerate than elsewhere on the www. perhaps it is because FB's music attracts such people, but it doesn't matter why. people meet here, have a good time, help each other, learn from each other, overall in a very polite and kind way. what i'm trying to say is that it would be extremely sad if this spirit would be lost, especially if there is no real reason. and posting pics of nude ladies isn't a real reason. thank god, people are not perfect (and what does perfection mean, btw) nor clones of each other. furthermore, removing a thread with pics of nude ladies is also no reason to get upset. it is gone - okay, no problem. there are more important things.
but i can't help thinking that dave n. is awfully wrong with his latests decisions. respect to his work, he can do whatever he want, but he should consider that in the meantime this site is more than his personal playground (reasons as stated above). that's the way social behaviour works - it just develops, and this has happened here. dave n. may founded it all, but he has no moral right to destroy this community, what he is actually doing now (killing threads, deleting users, forbiding posting pictures - what will be next ? this is just destruction).

so, what can we do ? as i said, everybody should bare in mind what this site means. taking yourself or your opinios too important won't help, consider this in your actions and postings. FB & kim deal took 12 years to bury their hatchets, roger waters & dave gilmoure more than 20 years. and they acknowldeged, it was all about clashing egos. i hope it won't take that long here to come to this conclusion. it would be extremely sad to say, in some years, "yeah, FB.net was very cool, but suddenly it was gone, i don't really remember why, people just spat at each other"


I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band

Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:34:24  Show Profile
Don't stress about it starmekitten. I think we're all in agreement about what we'd like (restoring forum harmony), we're all in agreement that we need to discuss what happened, why it happened and how to move forward.

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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:35:27  Show Profile
that made me look silly.

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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:40:01  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
hehe sorry llama, current climate paranoia that was.

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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:40:55  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
no no no not you, not you at all, I just think it's gone too far and there's too much of it elsewhere, thats why I deleted it, argh see!

*zips mouth*
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:43:22  Show Profile
Maybe we should start a thread in the discussion/suggestion forum. Maybe that's what Dave's waiting for.

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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:46:50  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
He has said that the photo no more thread was for discussion, but if he doesn't hang around to discuss it will just descend into name calling like the beautiful women one did.

It's so frustrating
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klikger
= Cult of Ray =

693 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:57:44  Show Profile
I know so many people who think they can do it alone
They isolate their heads and stay in their safety zone
What can you tell them?
What can you say that will make them defensive?
Hang on to your ego
Hang on but I know that you're gonna lose the fight
They come on like they're peaceful but inside they're so uptight
They trip through the day and waste all their thoughts at night
Now how can I say it?
How can I come on when I know I'm guilty?
Yeah, hang on to your ego
Hang on but I know you're gonna lose the fight
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  02:41:51  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
The only way to 'save' the forum is to resolve the issue at hand and move on from it. All the new threads to discuss this descend into insult and anger, even ordinary threads are getting taken over by this. Even, the king holds court, where it is most innapropriate has had this "battle" bought to it. Dave needs to hang around and present his case as a reasonable adult to other reasonable adults. His attitude won't change if the attitudes on forum don't. I get we're all annoyed. The issue isn't about shots of women, Dave needs to see past this, it's more to do with how the situation has been handled and his unjust imposition of moral values onto people who didn't need it in the first place. To make this seen though it needs to be pointed out. This bad child punishment routine is exceptionally patronising, but unless we take the time and thought to show why we don't need this it is making his case for him. Some of us were trying to make new unrelated threads to move past this problem, to turn it into a humourus situation even that we'd speak of in months to come. By hovering at the scene of the accident it's stopping any fixing that could happen.

It's a great forum, and it's a great shame.
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1965 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:14:49  Show Profile
This place used to be cool. Now it's rather lame. I have faith that it's greatness can be restored, but it's gonna take some work.

You know, the thing is, by the standards of most message boards, this place doesn't have any assholes or abusers. We are too sheltered in our fb.net world here. Try going to some other forums where there are gigantic dickfaces everywhere posting tons of fucked up pics and just talking mad shit. We're a bunch of pussies here. I like it that way. So please, don't start putting limitations on us in our pussy-ass world.

Let 'em riot. We're Sonic-fuckin'-Death Monkey.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:15:59  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address
Sing it.

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Never fuck a gift horse in the mouth.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:36:27  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
I love this forum. You are all some of the most interesting, wise, and friendly people I have ever encountered in this vast web of filth known as cyberspace. Plus you all dig Frank Black, big brownie points there.

Now, if I may momentarily go off-topic:

Newo, your sig is fuckin' hilarious! Don't ever, EVER make me snot myself from laughing at work ever again, you evil bastard.
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:45:50  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address
My work here is done.

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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:35:54  Show Profile
SAVE FLOOP more like!


Don't believe the type!
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  10:17:54  Show Profile
wat happend i havent been around for a few days so cn some1 bring me up to speed please

je suis un revoultionaire
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FranknWeezer
= Cult of Ray =

USA
356 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  12:48:57  Show Profile
I must have missed something here.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  16:10:26  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13589


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