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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  21:58:11  Show Profile
A ray of hope I suppose.
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  00:13:03  Show Profile
I'm utterly astounded and completely disappointed that Dave hasn't replied yet. His attitude seems to be that of a teacher to pupils, when many on this forum are probably wiser and have a better feel for the place than he has(now).

The action without discussion seems a poor attempt to get what he wants by - as MCA said - holding a knife to our throats. He's clearly hoping that we'll settle for his original demands as a compromise from this Draconian action.

MCA has stated the case extremely well and far more eloquently than I ever could, and I'm 100% behind what he's said, and what he feels would be the correct course of action. ie unban members, go back to where we were before, and open dialogue about future rules on picture posting. I think the appointment of a female moderator with full mod rights should be a priority. It seems that all this has stemmed from poor moderation (for a variety of understandable reasons) and that needs to be addressed in a positive manner.

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  00:35:21  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by mun chien andalusia

and now that i think of it poor el barto (which i knew as a MAJOR contributor in making this site)was escorted to the door or degraded if you wish because of a similar blockhead attitude over a ridiculous to say the least affair. i didn't speak back at the time since i respect admin decisions but it should have rung a bell.

what discussions are we talking about? the same ones that hitler started AFTER invading poland?

Zen fascists will control you,100% natural



Hey mun, you do have some valid points, but for fuck's sake, stop calling Dave a nazi, ok? Nazis didn't lock threads. Nazis killed millions of people.


Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
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klikger
= Cult of Ray =

693 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  01:10:27  Show Profile
This used to be my favorite message board. I hope it can be again.
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gauth
- FB Fan -

USA
74 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  02:00:27  Show Profile  Click to see gauth's MSN Messenger address
All these people whining really make me wonder about the level of maturity of the board members. Give the man a break. Some people decided to play with fire? Everybody pays for it.

I still believe this "General chat" has nothing to do on a FB forum. You wanna see a "general chat" that turned bad? Go to the Deftones forum. The band does not even participate to the forum anymore because it turned into complete anarchy with porn everywhere.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  02:09:08  Show Profile
hey gauth - you realize that everytime you post complaining about the "whining" you are, in fact, whining. something to think about.


i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  03:55:09  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
ahh, finally some action at fb.net
months ago I said this place was a bit boring
it certainly isn't anymore

I'm a bit sorry for the inability to post pictures though
Remember the orange-yellow debate
that was perfect

I'm not the funniest guy on the forum (bring back Floop!)
but posting pictures was one of the ways I could make a joke
or explain things better (dutch 'orange' soccer team, or the black Pete's of St.Nicolais)
I will never be able to compare Frank to Freddie Mercury



"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:42:20  Show Profile
I feel partly responsible for this, seeing as I posted a couple of pictures of Veronica Lake in the Pictures Of Non Offensive Women thread. Of course, it seems like we're defying Dave Noisy by doing that, so I see his point, but why are pictures of women you find attractive, no matter how innocuous and innocent, suddenly wrong? Why impose your radical conscience on people out of the blue like that?! And is the complete ban on any images supposed to make other forum members blame the ones who posted pictures of women? And it's very convienient that DN has his little monthly check-up, and left, while oither moderators are left to try and calm the situation. I don't mean to rag on him like that, it's his site and it's a great one, but I do think that it has to said that this is a being handled a little bit unfairly. Sure, disallow all images, but at least stick around to take the flak for it, and answer peoples queries. I love posting pics, of course a lot of people do, and it enhances any forum. Can we at least have an answer to these questions? :(
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:06:37  Show Profile
How does the images slow down everything?

I mean, you --first-- see the TEXT even when images are slowly loading.

Isn't it the access-speed to the text you're worrying about?
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Mass Pleeze
- FB Fan -

USA
153 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:30:20  Show Profile
stop calling Dave a nazi, ok? Nazis didn't lock threads. Nazis killed millions of people.



Let's not call people commies either, between Stalin and Mao they killed what, at least 30 million in the Gulags and Purges.

Just a suggestion.

Good point V

Did you exchange?
Can you Mr. Grieves?

Edited by - Mass Pleeze on 07/07/2005 10:31:28
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  11:12:48  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
I'm finally caught up on what has transpired here.

Dave Noisy-
Trying to maintain a semblance of order on this forum is acceptable. The means you've taken in attempting to do this are completely overblown, not to mention highly disrespectful to all the people who have made this forum what it is. You are penalizing many responsible, intelligent, and considerate forum members for the actions of a relative minority. Through your unilateral and (frankly) bull-headed course of action, you'll be doing more to harm this forum than help it.
I, for one, can vouch for the fact that if you don't re-instill the ability to post images, I won't be coming around here much any more. I think many of the forum members have echoed this sentiment as well.
I've enjoyed this forum greatly for a couple of years. You've made a big mistake and I demand that you reconsider.
-Alex

Edited by - PsychicTwin on 07/07/2005 11:13:23
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  12:08:51  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
how is locking-out floop EVER a good idea? this is bullshit.

and wasn't hi-ksa a martian or something? do they count as paedos?

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they were the heroes of old, men of renown.
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  12:16:23  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage
I read this forum a few times daily.

Somehow I missed floop being kicked out.

?

*Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:43:09  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gauth



I still believe this "General chat" has nothing to do on a FB forum.




Why not?


Don't believe the type!
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  14:29:06  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Mass Pleeze

stop calling Dave a nazi, ok? Nazis didn't lock threads. Nazis killed millions of people.
Let's not call people commies either, between Stalin and Mao they killed what, at least 30 million in the Gulags and Purges.

Just a suggestion.

Good point V

Did you exchange?
Can you Mr. Grieves?




i'm afraid that the paragon (within certain limits off course) is valid and not a mere name calling. nazis and communists (and all totalitarian regimes for that matter) started with censhoring stuff way before they started killing people. so in a digital community where speech is all we have and a nick is a digitalized personality locking a nick equals jail, banning equals capital punishment and censhorship is the same. nothing to do with physical death of course but it is important nontheless. the fact that it doesn't provoke physical pain doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt people's feelings all the same.

Zen fascists will control you,100% natural
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  14:33:28  Show Profile
calling dave a nazi is WAY out of line and you need to knock it off. try using that "calling people names hurts their feelings" argument on those who lost family in the death camps.

i'm as pissed at dave as the rest of you are but this crap is getting out of hand.


i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort.

Edited by - dayanara on 07/07/2005 14:35:08
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Hatchetman
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
234 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  14:47:58  Show Profile  Visit Hatchetman's Homepage  Click to see Hatchetman's MSN Messenger address
What if Dave really is a Nazi?

Ade


As the air conditioner hummed....
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  14:50:31  Show Profile
Not funny. Not OK. Not cute. Please stop this. It's so upsetting.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  14:51:23  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
It's certainly not helping matters
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  14:56:36  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

calling dave a nazi is WAY out of line and you need to knock it off. try using that "calling people names hurts their feelings" argument on those who lost family in the death camps.

i'm as pissed at dave as the rest of you are but this crap is getting out of hand.


i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort.





it's only a paragon. not that i think that he really is one old fashioned white power racist. it's the mentality that is similar not the ways.

Zen fascists will control you,100% natural
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  14:59:00  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Um...guys...the point is to discuss the issue, not just 'chat'. Thirty postings of 'where's Dave' doesn't really accomplish much, and waters down any postings with substance.

I'll be posting a new topic in a few minutes, and i hope to answer most of these questions there.


"Live life like you're gonna die...because you are." - William Shatner, You'll Have Time / Has Been
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