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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:06:34  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
I'm really quite sick of the fact that some of you wish to continue to 'push the boundaries', and that i feel the need to censor, so i will simply remove the option to post images.

If you would like to post images again, i suggest we discuss how this can be done, without compromising my request. (IE, no 'pictures of women' threads.)

Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:10:30  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
Just checking this out:


Good grief, you're not kidding.
I'm an easy-going kind of guy Dave, and I kind of half-heartedly supported you on the deleting the thread thing, but isn't this going a tad far?
It'll spoil everyone elses enjoyment of the place and make matters worse regarding people who've already got a problem with things here.

How's that for a slice of fried gold?

Edited by - Cheeseman1000 on 07/06/2005 13:13:07
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:13:59  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
Well this screws over the baby thats art section of the site.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:15:00  Show Profile
Dave please reconsider this. Don't punish the overwhelming majority of us who post appropriate and fun images and photos.



Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:17:09  Show Profile
Come on, isn't there another way to go about this? Wouldn't it be better to just lock or delete topics until people get the point?

We can still posts links, though, right? Like links to pictures?


ˇViva los Católicos! http://adrianfoster.dmusic.com/
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:22:31  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
Dave, I love this site, I truly do, and I have tried to be supportive of your decision, I have sent many mails when things crop up like the trollers and the other weirdness, because I know the mods aren't around and need a heads up on this. Most of us do, we try because we like the site. What you're doing now, whether you mean to or not is alienating the board. You do realise people will just walk. You were wrong to insult the guys even if your intentions were in the right place. Locking people may seem justifiable to you but you should have realised the uproar this will have caused, especially after the way the situation was handled, and now this. I am posting this because I'm not even sure if you read the mails I sent you, due to a lack of response. You are moderator lite. You are a busy man and Dean is away, you cannot expect Brian to watch all of this on half mod duties. Would it have been hard to instate temp mods while this situation is about? no. Just because you are unable to keep an eye on the forum situation, don't punish the forum. And thats what you're doing, you're making no friends or supporters, I have defended you and am rapidly taking it back. This is one step too far, seriously. Baby thats art is pointless now, the honeycomb artowrk lost, a good deal of good threads gone. People won't blame those who insisted on continuing to post the pictures you don't like, this will just create more anger to you. I think it's a bad, bad move.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:23:50  Show Profile
i again request (as my last two, or maybe it was three, requests have been totally ignored) the new picture posting rules, as they are clearly not the same as the old ones. perhaps we wouldn't have to resort to these sort of childish "i'm taking your toys and going home" tricks if people had known that posting a picture of jane goodall (and discussing her career) was strongly frowned upon on fb.net.


i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort.
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:27:56  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage
Gettin' weird.

Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.

WTF!?! My signature!

Edited by - ObfuscateByWill on 07/06/2005 13:28:36
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:33:03  Show Profile
This place blows.

Smell ya.

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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:37:18  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
It's screwed the whole site over. If Dave was concerned about the gender dynamic and the male female attitudes his actions have not bettered it, if anything they've made it worse. People on this forum are adults, you will not get around them by taking their toys away and patronising them. Reasonable conversation would have worked a lot better before action was taken, hell even after action was taken. Homers made a good point about double standards and when you guys choose to moderate. There have been some appalling examples of this. Hot and heavy over being called names Dave, but not when three of us warned you we had a guy trolling the board. This place, it's been slipping with the double accounters, the trollers and the weirdos and if all three of you had been watching you would have picked it up. This is so ridiculous.

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zub_the_goat
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
639 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:38:33  Show Profile  Visit zub_the_goat's Homepage  Click to see zub_the_goat's MSN Messenger address
when i joined this forum one of the things i liked about it was that everybody seemed to be trusted and anything that was unacceptable-spam etc was dealt with the minimum of fuss, it just feels like you are treating us like children simply because we dont agree with you, i really cant see your reasoning here-do you want to kill the forum?
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:41:04  Show Profile
The king sat in his ivory tower
Was blind, but all could see
The pain and fear behind his eyes
As none heard his decree.

________________________________________________________________________________
No power in the 'verse can stop me
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:42:21  Show Profile

Dear Dave Noisy,

Great idea to take away the option to post images. That will teach those kids a lesson and take away a lot of their fun. If you ever get run out of town and need a friend, come stay with me.

Your Admirer,
The Grinch!

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:43:27  Show Profile
Is this some kind of joke? I just did some new pics for the 'funny Pixie pics' thread, not that everyone loves that topic, but I was gonna post 'em. What a pain in the ass. In fact, I'm pretty angry about that.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:45:31  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
Carl send them to me! That thread gone, the graphics thread, gone, the show yourselves thread, gone, violet telling us about the I burn today cover, pointless, many threads gone because a situation was handled badly and is now spiralling out of control.
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:47:15  Show Profile

Yeah Carl, it APPEARS to be Dave Noisy's idea of dark humor and the joke's on us! Ha!

After he gets a good laugh, I'm sure he will restore all of the images!


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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:49:08  Show Profile
[edit: Never let it be said that CoffeeCan's bad jokes squelched the possibility of working this situation via diplomacy!]

Edited by - OldManInaCoffeeCan on 07/06/2005 13:56:06
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:50:33  Show Profile
I'll gladly sent you the pics, kitten(they're not great, but whatever!!), but we''ll wait and see. I agree with OldMan about this wind-up theory!! Will normal service be resumed ASAP?! I hope so!!
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:51:10  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
now now seriously. Dave has used the word "discuss" and we know how he replies to slights against his name or actions, so lets discuss this. Assuming he is still around and didn't drop a bombshell and run. What is this to achieve Dave? wha is the rationale behind it. The pictures of non-offensive women thread, which did probably begin life as a parody and a slight on your actions, was in practice both educational and celebrating the achievements of women. It was steered in that direction, there were as many scientists as actresses in there, so was heading the way you intended your original thread to go. So what was it that prompted this move?

Edited by - starmekitten on 07/06/2005 13:51:56
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  13:58:01  Show Profile
I prefer ascii porn anyway.


watch me jumpstart as the old skin is peeled
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  14:07:37  Show Profile

One of the Hats that I wear professionally is that of a parenting plan mediator. I will gladly offer my services free of charge and see if this misunderstanding can be resolved.

Now, if we could just get a miracle-working Public Relations firm to assist Dave...hmmm...

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  14:10:19  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
Meanwhile in Northern Europe...

<<Just a quick post to say I'm in Oslo and heading north into the arctic circle and beyond, and while it has been quite difficult so far to find time for the internet, it will be impossible to find internet up there, so the next update will not be soon. I should have a few new photos sans captions up in the gallery though...
The Contiki group I'm with is pretty cool, met some really nice people and having a great time. See you in a few weeks...>>
- Dean


Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  14:11:01  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage
n/m

*Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.

Edited by - ObfuscateByWill on 07/06/2005 14:11:43
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  14:22:58  Show Profile
Dave, have you been hanging out with Tom Cruise lately?


watch me jumpstart as the old skin is peeled
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  14:38:09  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
Dave? Anyone?
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  14:39:00  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m

Dave, have you been hanging out with Tom Cruise lately?


watch me jumpstart as the old skin is peeled

Now, why would you say that? Why would you, thats being such a jerk! Why would you say that?


How's that for a slice of fried gold?
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  14:41:13  Show Profile
You just don't like being called Sloppy Simon.


watch me jumpstart as the old skin is peeled
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  14:52:26  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
well since nobody feels comfortable enough to state what every single sane member thinks i'll do it for you:

1) this forum became a private property overnight. i know it actually is private run but you could spare us 3 years of pseudo democratic participation bullshit if you come and say now that this place is mine i rule and i couldn't care less of the people that are here.


2) many people paid to run this place out of love for fb's music and in good faith and respect for the people who run it. so fuck your nazist behaviour. refund every dime you got from people who loved the community but not your psychotic banana reppublic dictatorship.

3) people spent time and effort to beautiful and funny threads like the art ones and the funny pixies parodies, socialized with the show youselves threads and discussed a miriad of other stuff by using fotos. i forget the live pixies and fb fotos that should be the core of this site but obviously not important enough. put a fucking disclaimer at the home page if you want people to post what you wish. better yet lock all threads and remain the only one who posts so you are sure that you will not offend yourself. even if i think that you are so paranoid that you will end up locking your own account too.

4) people contributed to make this site what it is. song database, faq, quotes, new forum look, pic database etc were not made by you. so respect them and ask at least their opinion.

5) you single handendly ruined efforts of years in 2 days. well done.

6) if i'm not wrong there are other people who run this place. i wonder if they have any power to stop this madness. were are they?

7) i am very curious about what frank would say about this. it's still about frank ain't it?

so long and thanks for nothing dave.

Zen fascists will control you,100% natural
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  15:20:47  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by mun chien andalusia

well since nobody feels comfortable enough to state what every single sane member thinks i'll do it for you:

1) this forum became a private property overnight. i know it actually is private run but you could spare us 3 years of pseudo democratic participation bullshit if you come and say now that this place is mine i rule and i couldn't care less of the people that are here.


2) many people paid to run this place out of love for fb's music and in good faith and respect for the people who run it. so fuck your nazist behaviour. refund every dime you got from people who loved the community but not your psychotic banana reppublic dictatorship.

3) people spent time and effort to beautiful and funny threads like the art ones and the funny pixies parodies, socialized with the show youselves threads and discussed a miriad of other stuff by using fotos. i forget the live pixies and fb fotos that should be the core of this site but obviously not important enough. put a fucking disclaimer at the home page if you want people to post what you wish. better yet lock all threads and remain the only one who posts so you are sure that you will not offend yourself. even if i think that you are so paranoid that you will end up locking your own account too.

4) people contributed to make this site what it is. song database, faq, quotes, new forum look, pic database etc were not made by you. so respect them and ask at least their opinion.

5) you single handendly ruined efforts of years in 2 days. well done.

6) if i'm not wrong there are other people who run this place. i wonder if they have any power to stop this madness. were are they?

7) i am very curious about what frank would say about this. it's still about frank ain't it?

so long and thanks for nothing dave.

Zen fascists will control you,100% natural



Well said mun chien andalusia!

However, I'm holding out hope that Dave Noisy has an exit plan, one that doesn't leave fb.net in ruins.

After slamming the door shut in our faces, he did leave it cracked opened for "discussion"...In fact, he even goes further by implying that posting is OK as long as there are no "pictures of beautiful women" threads...so...


LET THE DISCUSSIONS BEGIN
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  15:20:59  Show Profile
Frank's still on the front page. And the little bees, and other icons. Why not ban them too? They are images, after all! And this site is anti-images now. Indiscriminately.
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  15:23:14  Show Profile
Oh yeah, Dave, your participation in these discussions would be helpful, welcomed [edit: and in fact quite necessary]...


Edited by - OldManInaCoffeeCan on 07/06/2005 15:25:08
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  15:26:22  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
I'm quite disappointed at the post and run thing, to be honest.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  15:26:33  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
discussion? don't make me laugh. if you want to discuss you do it before you take action. if you wish to talk by putting a knifein the throat it's blackmail.

Zen fascists will control you,100% natural
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  15:28:35  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
MCA, good couple of points in there. I really enjoyed the Show Yourselves threads, it takes a lot for some people to put pictures of themselves for other people to see, and you've just wiped that out. It adds a whole bigger dimension to a forum when you can actually see who you're chatting to.
And people have paid money for the upkeep of this site. If our friend tobafett was here, he'd tell you how a company has to be responsible to its funders, or it's going to lose them. If those who've given you money feel cheated, that's a whole lot worse than those who just whinge about things.


How's that for a slice of fried gold?
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  15:28:53  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage
Daves words MCA, he said discuss. Although it all seems a little one sided and not helping his popularity any.
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  15:35:56  Show Profile

Hey Dave Noisy, where you at man! It's all going down in flames! I thought you were the captain of this ship...
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