-= Frank Black Forum =-
-= Frank Black Forum =-
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Off Topic!
 General Chat
 Jackson jurors say he's guilty - see last post
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Previous Page
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 3

BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  12:23:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DATELINE SANTA MARIA, CALIFORNIA: Jackson Ending Sleepovers in His Room

SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) - Michael Jackson's lawyer said Tuesday he is convinced that the pop star "has never molested any child," but he said Jackson would no longer let children or their families sleep in his room...




Edited by - BLT on 06/14/2005 12:24:54
Go to Top of Page

billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6288 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  14:00:23  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson

not innocent, "not guilty".

difference.

what do you mean, how long will he last?



I think he looks wrecked
it's awful that after all those years
Micheal can still horrify me with again
a lesser human look

I think he will be death very soon,
tragically
I don't hope so of course
I much rather see another tour or something

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
Go to Top of Page

Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  15:23:20  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

[quote]Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson

I much rather see another tour or something

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"



Not me... He looks so frail he may break in two on stage or something...NOT something I wanna see.

If time is my vessel, then learning to love
Might be my way back to sea
Go to Top of Page

VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  18:19:01  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have to wonder what the dove lady would have done had Jackson been found guilty. Shot them?



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
Go to Top of Page

Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  18:23:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


She would have left them in the cage! There was probably a dove assigned to each charge!! "Sorry, dove, but you have to suffer 'cos MJ was guilty on that count!"
Go to Top of Page

dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  19:36:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Go to Top of Page

floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  19:40:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
isn't the word "until" misspelled on that guys license plate frame?
Go to Top of Page

dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  19:44:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i can handle the too-tight nazi armband, but what is with the chunky stuff all over his hand? too poor for a sparkly glove?
Go to Top of Page

Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  20:10:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The guy being held up is Irish, he had that 'Ireland still loves you Micheal' flag. If I every run into him... ;)
Go to Top of Page

VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  22:06:40  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
isn't the word "until" misspelled on that guys license plate frame?


No, he's saying an innocent till was proven guilty.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
Go to Top of Page

vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7446 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  01:14:47  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This week's title in theonion.com: "Enchanted By Own Innocence, Michael Jackson Molests Self"


Denis

I know the god of rock n roll / Yeah I sold him my soul!
Go to Top of Page

Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  06:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

isn't the word "until" misspelled on that guys license plate frame?



Yeah I'm sure there is supposed to be a K.


Don't believe the type!
Go to Top of Page

PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  06:19:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=till

Usage Note: Till and until are generally interchangeable in both writing and speech, though as the first word in a sentence until is usually preferred: Until you get that paper written, don't even think about going to the movies. ·Till is actually the older word, with until having been formed by the addition to it of the prefix un-, meaning “up to.” In the 18th century the spelling 'till became fashionable, as if till were a shortened form of until. Although 'till is now nonstandard, 'til is sometimes used in this way and is considered acceptable, though it is etymologically incorrect.



Oh let it linger
Go to Top of Page

BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  08:15:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

isn't the word "until" misspelled on that guys license plate frame?



If you restudy the frame, you will eventually see what he's trying to say:
THE WRONG CASH DRAWER HAS BEEN CONVICTED.

Unfortunately, I am not familiar with that case.


Where is Dustin?
Go to Top of Page

PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  10:05:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
someone already make that joke, kinda :(


Oh let it linger
Go to Top of Page

Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  12:27:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara





Third picture down, it's The Kaiser Chiefs.


Don't believe the type!
Go to Top of Page

BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  14:49:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

someone already make that joke, kinda :(



Go to Top of Page

kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2005 :  19:42:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
8/10/5 LA Times article
2 Jurors Now Say Jackson Is Guilty

Two of the 12 jurors who acquitted Michael Jackson of child-molestation charges said Monday that they were pressured to do so by other jurors and now regret their decision.

The jurors — Eleanor Cook and Ray Hultman — made their statements to interviewer Rita Cosby on cable network MSNBC.

"People just wouldn't take their blinders off long enough to really look at all the evidence that was there," said Hultman, 62, of Santa Maria, Calif., where the trial was held.

As are a number of other jurors, both Hultman and Cook, 79, are planning to write books about their five months on the high-profile case. Cook's will be titled "Guilty as Sin, Free as a Bird" and Hultman's will be called "The Deliberator," according to Larry Garrison, who said he will help co-write both projects.

Garrison said neither book has a publisher. But Cook plans to share any profits with the charity Feed the Children, Garrison said.

Asked by Cosby whether their statements were motivated by money, both jurors said no.

"I'm speaking out now because I believe it's never too late to tell the truth," Cook said.

Jackson was acquitted June 13 of 14 counts in connection with allegations he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor at his Neverland ranch in the Santa Ynez Valley. His lead defense attorney, Thomas A. Mesereau Jr., discounted the jurors' interview Monday as "embarrassing and outrageous."

"These people voted not guilty 14 times," said Mesereau, who also appeared on Cosby's show. "Now, nearly two months after being discharged, they're changing their tune. I think it's laughable."

Reached at his office during the program, Santa Barbara County Dist. Atty. Tom Sneddon said he wasn't watching the show and would have no comment on what the jurors were saying.

"It's over with," he said. "It isn't going to make any difference what I say or what I feel."

Prosecutors cannot appeal the acquittal, and overturning one is virtually impossible under the law.

The jurors' contention that they were coerced to vote not guilty was disputed by fellow panelist Susan Drake, 51, who was reached at her Santa Ynez home on Monday night.

Drake said that during deliberations, Hultman and Cook "were clear in expressing their feeling he might be guilty but totally clear that the evidence wasn't there and reasonable doubt prevailed."

She said that discussions in the jury room were thoughtful and courteous, hardly the intimidating environment her colleagues discussed on television.

"We would ring the bell if more than one person was talking and we would refer to the evidence and talk one at a time and present evidence we thought was appropriate," she said.

In their TV appearance, Hultman and Cook tried to distance themselves from the jury's decision to find Jackson not guilty, which was reached after more than six days of deliberations.

"They're the ones that let a pedophile go," Cook said. "We didn't."

Hultman speculated that a number of witnesses who offered testimony favorable to Jackson were paid off or otherwise influenced improperly — an allegation that Mesereau vigorously denied.

Hultman pointed in particular to the testimony of Deborah Rowe, Jackson's ex-wife, who stunned prosecutors when she had nothing but good things to say about the singer's parenting skills.




Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank

Edited by - kathryn on 08/09/2005 19:43:01
Go to Top of Page

Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2005 :  20:08:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Call me crazy, but I think Jackson is innocent of molestation charges.

And these Jurors have intentions of making money from their upcoming book sales. They were shown the money, and they're willing to change their opinion.
Go to Top of Page

Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2005 :  01:06:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If they felt he was guilty, they should have done the right thing. And one of the books is called 'Guilty As Sin, Free As A Bird'?! Fucking arsehole.
Go to Top of Page

zub_the_goat
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
639 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2005 :  01:16:01  Show Profile  Visit zub_the_goat's Homepage  Click to see zub_the_goat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
grrr, that makes me mad...there should be some kind of law against this sort of thing *if* he is guilty then why the hell would they let him out? obviously they are going to get more money if they say something controversial rather than a simple account of what happened. They have either put more kiddies in danger if they gave the wrong verdict or are ruining a mans life for money if innocent

Edited by - zub_the_goat on 08/10/2005 01:16:15
Go to Top of Page

Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2005 :  06:31:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Too true. These peple are @ssholes.


Don't believe the type!
Go to Top of Page
Page: of 3 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Previous Page
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
-= Frank Black Forum =- © 2002-2020 Frank Black Fans, Inc. Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000