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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:02:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And a good bet it is.

Verdict's due in 25. Pins and needles!


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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:08:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
has this been posted before?

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/michael-jackson-never-copped-a-feel.html

I feel a bit nervous watching/listening to this.

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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:10:51  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hehe I've seen that, my housemate showed it to me, I plastered a grin on for that one
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:11:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't checked it out. Something about the juxtaposed words
"Michael Jackson' and "copped a feel" puts me off.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:13:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ew. I just watched.


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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:17:12  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
someone owes me money
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:19:13  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4604027.stm
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5157 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:19:30  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
me too - where's my motherfucking money?

-Brian

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:23:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brian! That language is not welcome on our family-friendly forum!
My word!


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6334 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:44:38  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
innoncent!

new pool after watching micheal leave to court:
how long will he last?
I say 8 months tops

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:47:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The New York Times just reported he was found not guilty on all counts.




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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:48:38  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I sure hope if I'm ever on trial there won't be people who know nothing about the facts of my case proclaiming my certain guilt because they think I'm creepy...

Nothing is ever something.

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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:49:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not innocent, "not guilty".

difference.

what do you mean, how long will he last?
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:49:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you know what Michael Jackson likes about twenty eight year olds?

there are twenty of 'em.

sry--hadda do it.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great point, KSR. Huge difference.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  14:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When doves cry, indeed!


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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  15:17:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sorry, but what's the difference between being innocent and not guilty? definitions of innocent include "not guilty" *shrugs*


Oh let it linger
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  15:25:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
close as I can get right now:

http://www.massbar.org/publications/journalists_handbook/?sw=3154
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  15:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the US legal system the burden is on the prosecution to prove guilt
beyond a shadow of a doubt. A jury finds a defendant not guilty
because the state didn't make its case beyond said shadow of a doubt.
You can not be found "innocent" nor can you plea "innocent" - only
guilty or not guilty.

Sorry to go on. I used to do this for work.

Just saw your post, KSR. That pretty much applies in every state, not
just Massachusetts.



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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  15:34:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cheers, to both.


Oh let it linger

Edited by - PixieSteve on 06/13/2005 15:37:06
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  15:39:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I figured KSR'd be on his way to Santa Ynez with a shotgun by now.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  17:32:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's so sad that this is big news.

is it even sadder that in my head i am like I would love to see the jackson 5 on tour? when the commontator said they might get back and tour...

I know it's pathetic... but the Jackson 5 Rocked!

Ok I know he is probabaly really a pedofile... so I won't go.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  18:07:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Daisy, I want you back!


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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2543 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  00:44:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

innoncent!







Was that a typo?

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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  05:49:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see he got off on all charges.


I guess floop WAS wrong!

Edited by - Homers_pet_monkey on 06/14/2005 05:49:57
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  06:29:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am sure he did get off. Perv.


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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  06:52:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now all jacko has to do is get a record out quick while the media are hot. Maybe a super-funky cover of Morrissey's "I Changed My Plea To Guilty"

"... 'cause freedom is waasted ooon meeee..."

or Oingo Boingo's "Little Girls"?

"They don’t care if I’m a one way mirror / They’re not frightened by my cold exterior..."

Any other suggestions? A song by The Vaselines perhaps :-P




Wot di fuk?
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  09:05:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was an obvious choice actually. I wish I was a member of that jury.


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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  09:18:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

I figured KSR'd be on his way to Santa Ynez with a shotgun by now.



only natural someone would say this after that one post about justice to sex offenders being administered by big guys with baseball bats.

i really don't have strong feelings about this one at all.

i lean towards him having not done it actually, but I've been so disgusted with just about everything that is happening in the world i haven't been paying attention to the trial. i don't have cable or anything.. i listen to NPR in the morning which is hard enough what with the "a car bomb exploded in tikrit today..." running tally.

please, no lib/con argument.
i know i'm stupid, i know i deserve it, just keep it in the holster, ok?

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  09:41:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He looked doped to the nines. I'm sure he went home and had a good float in the isolation tank.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  11:05:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

I am sure he did get off. Perv.


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At least someone got it.


Don't believe the type!
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  12:23:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DATELINE SANTA MARIA, CALIFORNIA: Jackson Ending Sleepovers in His Room

SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) - Michael Jackson's lawyer said Tuesday he is convinced that the pop star "has never molested any child," but he said Jackson would no longer let children or their families sleep in his room...




Edited by - BLT on 06/14/2005 12:24:54
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6334 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  14:00:23  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson

not innocent, "not guilty".

difference.

what do you mean, how long will he last?



I think he looks wrecked
it's awful that after all those years
Micheal can still horrify me with again
a lesser human look

I think he will be death very soon,
tragically
I don't hope so of course
I much rather see another tour or something

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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2005 :  15:23:20  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

[quote]Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson

I much rather see another tour or something

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"



Not me... He looks so frail he may break in two on stage or something...NOT something I wanna see.

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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2005 :  18:19:01  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have to wonder what the dove lady would have done had Jackson been found guilty. Shot them?



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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