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Chris D.
- FB Fan -

USA
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Posted - 05/22/2005 :  13:51:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also want to add that "Speedy Marie" and "Massif Centrale" rule, especially the former. You really don't like those much?

And "Navajo Know" is light after hearing "Motorway to Roswell," but it's not a terrible song. Just think of it as a kind of "Her Majesty" after the major statement.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2005 :  09:29:46  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
sorry vovat, off on a bit of a tangent here


Yeah, like *I* have any room to complain about going off on tangents. <g>

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'Survivor'? I was vaguely aware of it going on at the time, but never really bothered to follow it, as it all seemed a bit silly. Was that like a poll to find out the most popular FB song?


Sort of, but not exactly. People would vote off the songs they didn't like, and the last remaining song would be the winner. Hence, it wasn't always the popular favorite that won, but it was usually one that the majority of voters didn't totally dislike.

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Even most Pixies "fans" (not the types who would post on this board) don't seem to acknowledge anything recorded after "Surfer Rosa." So I'll say the latter half of "Surfer Rosa" (everything from "Cactus" on) is overrated.


While I don't know that I agree (I mean, this run contains "Tony's Theme," which I definitely wouldn't call overrated by any means; I might even say it's underrated), I can definitely see what you're saying. I don't think there's enough Bossanova or Trompe love among the general public.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =

France
696 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2005 :  05:02:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Massif Central is definitely an over-rated song.

Hermaphroditos...

For Pixies, I think of Gouge Away which is great but a bit cliché in the end...?

Isn't it??

Don't forget to bring a towel.
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geertos
- FB Fan -

Belgium
158 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2005 :  06:11:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank: Headache
Pixies: Hey


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ElevatorLady
= Cult of Ray =

385 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2005 :  07:22:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by geertos
Pixies: Hey


No, no, no! No!
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
281 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2005 :  14:34:58  Show Profile  Click to see toeknee's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Frank: Hang On To Your Ego
Pixies: Wave of Mutilation
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ElevatorLady
= Cult of Ray =

385 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2005 :  15:11:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toeknee
Frank: Hang On To Your Ego



Frank didn't write that, did he?
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2005 :  15:12:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElevatorLady

quote:
Originally posted by toeknee
Frank: Hang On To Your Ego



Frank didn't write that, did he?



Nope. Beach Boys.


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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2005 :  03:50:02  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've always wondered if our appreciation of songs is heightened by whether or not we play an instrument.

Instead of just hearing a song as a whole, my brain has a habit of breaking it down into it's various parts, picking out chords, structures and patterns. Sometimes I wish I could just listen on a more superficial level. Many a song has been thrown onto the trash heap because the drums are weak and not used to their potential, just a glorified metronome.
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
281 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2005 :  05:13:01  Show Profile  Click to see toeknee's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElevatorLady

quote:
Originally posted by toeknee
Frank: Hang On To Your Ego



Frank didn't write that, did he?



Well he chose to release it as a single, so it's overrated by himself
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geertos
- FB Fan -

Belgium
158 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2005 :  06:02:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElevatorLady

quote:
Originally posted by geertos
Pixies: Hey


No, no, no! No!



Well... yes. Please allow me to explain. Basicly, I don't care much for that song since the first time I've heard it (that should be 1990). I mean "we're cha-ained, ch-aaaained (Kim: chained!), ch-a-ai-ned", what kind of chorus is that? Even when I'm tired of Doolittle and put on some earlier recordings (the dvd-concert, the Timeless Stars bootleg), there's still always this one song I have to sit through. I'm always glad when it's over.
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fluoxetine
- FB Fan -

34 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2005 :  07:05:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love Hey. I'd say Gouge Away was probably the most overrated Pixies track, although I like it more than I like The Navajo Know or *shudder* Havalina.

FB songs... I don't really care for Fiddle Riddle, but it's hardly overrated.

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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2005 :  07:14:34  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"headache" - oh i said it! i used to love this song, but the more i listen to it the more i realize that its really not one of FB's best.
"lone child" - recycling that old chord pattern ("nimrod's son," "bullet") once again just doesn't do it for me
"i need peace" - the weakest song on the brown album
most of the middle section of Pistolero i usually skip over - "you're suck a wire," "i love your brain," "so hard to make things out," "i think i'm starting to lose it" - the most boring music FB has ever made, which is a shame b/c the rest of that album is fantastic

-Brian

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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2005 :  08:30:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toeknee

Well he chose to release it as a single, so it's overrated by himself



IMHO the Beach Boys are one of the most overrated bands of all time, but that's fodder for another thread.



Edited by - BLT on 05/25/2005 08:31:22
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2005 :  16:10:46  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
"you're suck a wire,"


Freudian slip, perhaps? <g>



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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scruvs
= Cult of Ray =

353 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2005 :  03:53:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scruvs

"Caribou." I've learned to appreciate it more over time.




I've heard it live a couple times, but when I heard this live in SF, it was hardcore and it rocked. I repent.


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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1079 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2005 :  06:34:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Caribou, a kind a song that poor Radiohead would love to be able to make sound good...

Don't you rile'em...
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2005 :  14:26:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just listened to Devil's Workshop for the first time and it did'nt grab me. Have a feeling it won't become a personal fave of mine.
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2005 :  14:49:46  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There are many FB songs that I dislike, especially on FB&TCs and Pistolero, but I wouldn't say they're overrated since many (most of?) other fans dislike them too




When will Frank find Lyle, Nick and Eric Drew again?
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

1079 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2005 :  00:37:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

I just listened to Devil's Workshop for the first time and it did'nt grab me. Have a feeling it won't become a personal fave of mine.



You cannot love a Frank Black album at first listen. Need 5 more and the magic works.

hWolsky has gone to the Marc Almond Forum... Are you happy now?!
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2005 :  06:15:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sorry to seem dumb, but i don't think there is any under- or overrated song. i mean, what you like is what you like, and what other people like is what they like.
i really don't understand such discussions. have enough confidence in yourself and the decisions of others, i say.
but i have to admit, that i also think that Cult of Ray (the album) is not enough appreciated, even not among his fans.



I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2005 :  10:01:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think some people over-appreciate COR. Not that it's a bad album, per se.
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2005 :  13:32:06  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

sorry to seem dumb, but i don't think there is any under- or overrated song.



underrated/overrated. i'm just glad they're on the record for me to hear rather than tossed into the vault, never again to see the light of day. there's probably enough fb ditties/songs that weren't deemed good enough for public listening.
i wanna hear

it all looks beautiful to me
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IceCream
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2005 :  09:11:08  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

I think some people over-appreciate COR. Not that it's a bad album, per se.

Well said, Carl. And by "some people", I mean the people on this forum. There's a reason why it gets trashed by the critics and genral public so often: because it's not very good.

Not that I don't appreciate it when LBF or Dave Noisy throws this album a bit of praise, I think it's cool that they can think that. But I don't really agree.
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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2005 :  09:41:12  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
COR rocks. totally underated.i think it got bashed by the critics only because it came after TOTY that is hard to equal. personally i prefer COR to pistolero and all the post DITS albums.


Like private parts to the Gods are we, they play with us for their sport
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Jordo
- FB Fan -

USA
98 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2005 :  11:34:04  Show Profile  Visit Jordo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
>> "so hard to make things out," "i think i'm starting to lose it" - the most boring music FB has ever made<<


::shocked::

I was just going to post today about how "So Hard To..." was maybe my favorite Frank Black song currently. Its like his epic masterpiece and I'm surprised people dont seem to recognize it as such...I feel like its this amazing accomplishment, this grand big beautiful emotional complex song... It blows me away.

In fact, I used to hate it, and say how boring it was ("the middle is ok when its fast but besides that its boring" i was heard to say), this was maybe a year ago... But lately its been matching my mood so well I cant even blink when I hear it. It astounds me. That opening riff is just so sad and makes me want to cry, its so heavy and dark and sad.


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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2005 :  13:49:28  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I'm a fan of SHTMTO and ITISTLI (enough intitials there? <g>). Honestly, I think Pistolero is a very bottom-heavy album. Aside from "Western Star," all of the better songs are on the latter half of the record.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1485 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2005 :  23:29:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It must just be me because a lot of yall seem to love it but I think "If it takes all night" is a total momentum killer for DITS and I loooooove every other jam on that record. But little things like when he says,"I'm gonna wash my favorite shirt" and that gay little guitar fill accents the end of it. AARRRRgggh that drives me nuts!
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2005 :  17:36:01  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
How can you determine the sexual orientation of a guitar fill?



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2005 :  15:19:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some sound slinky and feminine. Others have a brutal machismo. :)
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johnd24_42
- FB Fan -

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2005 :  06:44:35  Show Profile  Visit johnd24_42's Homepage  Click to see johnd24_42's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
This one is easy for me...

'Here Comes Your Man'!


"It used to be 16 lanes/used to be one of those things"
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1485 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2005 :  15:39:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat

How can you determine the sexual orientation of a guitar fill?



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.



I seen that riff hangin at the Blue Oyster. And never you mind what I was doin there!
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 06/20/2007 :  07:08:55  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
'cold heart of stone' seems to get more attention than i was ever thinking of giving it.

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7442 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2007 :  07:23:08  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Return of the living thread... Ah well, might as well post in it.

The most overrated FB song IMO is probably Superabound. It's good but I don't see how some people call it their fave song from TOTY.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2007 :  08:02:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vilainde

The most overrated FB song IMO is probably Superabound. It's good but I don't see how some people call it their fave song from TOTY.

I know one guy on this forum -- his name rhymes with Mama's Pants -- who thinks it's the bee's knees. And I tend to agree. It's way up there for me. EDF's keys alone make this a killer song. And there's one of the great lines from an FB song: "You don't have much taste for bouquet." And the bass line that follows that line is outstanding. And ...


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