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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  12:13:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've heard a lot over the years about the so-called "Malta mixes" for Trompe le Monde but I've never known exactly what they are. Some kind of alternate mixes I assume. But what's so special about them? Do they sound amazing or something? Could someone please explain? (Maybe This will make for a good discussion, as there don't seem to be a lot of those these days.)


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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  12:33:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hola:

Here you can found everything:

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?ARCH...rchTerms=,malta

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/pinter/1251/sound.html

Saludos
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  12:48:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The first link doesn't work.

Are those three clips the only ones available? That version of "Brackish Boy" sounds far superior to the one on the yellow/orange album, which has always been one of the few Frank Black songs that I never really cared for.

So is there any way that anyone knows of to contact this Malta guy?


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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  12:52:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
try this:

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=54

this works :)
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  13:05:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whatever became of the petition? (Thanks for that URL, Christian!)


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  14:33:50  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
it's time to solve this mystery, frank or ken goes!



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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  14:38:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shall we make a new petition? That Brackish Boy clip has really wetted my appetite.


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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1158 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  14:43:33  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I saw the alternative trompe on Soulseek a few weeks ago, tried to download it, but it failed. I've been searching for it ever since. Am I mistaken, or wasn't this on the old FTP?


Some brains just work that way, that's what chemicals can do.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  14:46:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember there being some kind of alternate Trompe on the ftp, but if my memory serves me correctly, it was not the same thing as the Malta mix (well, obviously it couldn't have been the same thing). Maybe just a fan remix of some sort?


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Edited by - NimrodsSon on 05/02/2005 14:47:55
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *

Chile
1315 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  15:12:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the info file when I downloaded the mixes of trompe le monde:

"Trompe Alts
-uploaded by gavin@frankblack.net-

Here're some tracks for people like me who love Trompe Le Monde, but want a
fresh spin on it. Of course, the full 'alternate mix'/outtakes (AKA 'J Malta
mix') would be best, but for now we're just gonna have to make due with this
stuff and the 3 short clips.

The "Planet Of Sound" (single mix) is from, well, the Planet Of Sound single.
The main difference between the album version is the vocals.

The "Head On" (remix) is from a promo cd single. I can't tell much, if any,
difference from the LP version, but here it is anyway.

"Letter To Memphis" (instrumental/vocal mix) is a homemade mix combining the
instrumental b-side and the LP version. Nothing amazing, but maybe worth the
download.

The Malta mix clips are sourced from James Barnard's site. These are all
that's available at the moment. If you want the full recording released
(supposedly containing lots of goodies, such as an early version of 'Surf
Epic'), bug 4AD to release the Trompe Le Monde demos/outtakes as their next
posthumous Pixies release.
For more info, check the forum thread "Petition: Lost Trompe Tapes!" at
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=54

The "secret mix" is a weird mix of the officially released cd, main
differences being quieter vocals and less bass. Not to be confused with the
aforementioned Alternate/Malta mix, these aren't 'real' mixes, rather just
homemade using a special technique.

enjoy!"

Eso seria

Salu2
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  15:22:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if, now, with the extremely successful reunion tour, 4AD would be more apt to release any of this Trompe stuff than they would have been, say, three years ago when that petition idea was drawn up.


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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  16:52:03  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sir Rockabye

I saw the alternative trompe on Soulseek a few weeks ago, tried to download it, but it failed. I've been searching for it ever since. Am I mistaken, or wasn't this on the old FTP?


Some brains just work that way, that's what chemicals can do.



maybe the fb.net ftp "alternate mix" which is for what i know a completely different thing from the "malta tape". if you want the ftp version i have it and i'll gladly pass it to those interested.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  16:57:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yet again the legend of the generous, all-owning
Mun proves to be true!


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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  17:34:25  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
actually now that i checked i have 3 clips of the malta mixes of these songs: Brackish Boy, Palace Of The Brine, Bird Dream Of The Olympus Mons, few seconds each all of which i got from the fb.net ftp.


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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  17:54:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's probably the same thing that's on the link at the top of this page


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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  18:04:20  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yep actually it is, unfortunately just clips.


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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  18:11:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So does anyone want to create a petition on something like www.petitiononline.com ? I guess if I'm so eager to make one, I should be the one writing it, but I have no idea how to write petitions and to be honest, I'm just too damn lazy.


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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  18:13:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon
I have no idea how to write petitions and to be honest, I'm just too damn lazy.



with this kind of attitude, we can move mountains!
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2005 :  22:43:37  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The "fan mixes" are just the original tracks put out of phase, aren't they? Anyway, Trompe le Monde is my fave Pixies album, but I think I've gotten over Malta and his basically nonexistent outtakes.
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1220 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2005 :  03:08:19  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I love the vocal ending on that Palace Of The Brine...

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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2005 :  06:52:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Someone posted here ages ago that they spoke to J Malta and he claimed the tapes were lost/destroyed.


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2005 :  06:54:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh no!! Say that ain't so!!
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2005 :  10:47:52  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Maybe he just buried them somewhere. Probably on the Greek island that bears his name.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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