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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
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Posted - 04/22/2005 : 21:42:00
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this is why i love frank. best media prank of all time.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1500648/20050422/black_frank.jhtml?headlines=true
quote: Pixies frontman calls Honeycomb 'a mixtape for a peaceful hike.
Charles Thompson was barely 1 year old when Bob Dylan released 1966's classic, genre-blending Blonde on Blonde, yet the double album eventually had a profound effect on the man who later founded the Pixies (under the name Black Francis.
"It was like, 'Yeah, I'm gonna knock out a record in Nashville for a few days before I head out on my world tour.' It was very Dylan." — Frank Black "It just stuck with me, and for years," said the singer, now known as Frank Black. "I always wanted to do my own sort of version, Black on Blonde."
More than a decade ago, Black mentioned this idea to producer Jon Tiven, whose diverse credits include Robert Plant and B.B. King, and the two decided to make it happen as soon as it fit into their schedules. Ten years later, Black was finally ready.
"The Catholics had just come off an exhausting tour — actually several of them — and seemed to be pretty much done," Black said of his post-Pixies band. "There was nothing going on with Pixies, and I'd just gotten divorced and moved to this new city [Portland, Oregon], so it finally seemed the time to do this thing."
As fate would have it, though, Black learned hours later that plans for a Pixies reunion were in the works. Both projects started coming together, and by the time they were in place, Black had only four days to record with Tiven. Fortunately, the session players the producer lined up work fast.
"It actually made it cool," Black said. "It was like, 'Yeah, I'm gonna knock out a record in Nashville for a few days before I head out on my world tour.' It was very Dylan."
To play on the album, Tiven put together a who's who of veteran session musicians that included Steve Cropper, Spooner Oldham, Buddy Miller and David Hood, who among them had recorded with some of the biggest artists in country, R&B and rock, from Otis Redding to Elvis Presley.
"I don't think they really knew my stuff, but it didn't really matter," Black said. "I would show them the basics, and they would catch on so quickly it was literally one or two takes for every track."
As unlikely collaborators as the session players seemed with Black, whose frantic rock with the Pixies inspired Kurt Cobain's work with Nirvana, the singer topped them with the special guest he brought in to duet on "Strange Goodbye": Cobain's ex-wife, Courtney Love.
"I suppose it's just kind of my joke on the album," Black said. "Everybody else, all of our friends, were always so uncomfortable about it, so I thought I would throw this at them."
Along with recording several of Black's compositions, some of which he wrote years ago, the band also logged a few covers, including "Song of the Shrimp," which Elvis performed in the movie "Girls! Girls! Girls!," and "Dark End of the Street," made famous by Percy Sledge.
None of the tracks sound anything like Black's previous work. It's more like a mixtape for a peaceful hike, heavy with alt-country and Van Morrison-like light rock. An updated Blonde on Blonde is about accurate.
In the end, however, Black chose not to call it Black on Blonde because "it was a little too campy." Instead, he borrowed the title of the one of the tracks, "Honeycomb." "It was just a cool word that sounded singer/songwritery, but not too wimpy," he said.
Black is currently trying to line up the same musicians for a tour to promote the album, due July 19. "I'm not sure how much demand there is, though," he said. "[It's] certainly not like the Pixies."
Black is hitting the road with that band, too, for about a month beginning May 26 in Portland. Although he's the one who originally broke up the band years ago, he thoroughly enjoyed the comeback tour, one of the most successful treks of last year.
"I forgot how good it feels to be with these guys, not just onstage, but offstage," he said. "We have the same sort of sense of humor and all that. And we're being rewarded financially for something we did 20 years ago, and I'm not embarrassed by that. Isn't that what art is about? Being recognized?"
When asked if the Pixies plan to record new material, Black promptly answered, "We're a reunion band. People want to hear the old stuff."
Later, however, he said, "We'll record eventually. It's just easy not to do when promoters are calling every day with crazy money trying to book shows."
— Corey Moss
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frnck blck
-= The Man =-
312 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2005 : 22:20:59
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[quote]Originally posted by dayanara
this is why i love frank. best media prank of all time.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1500648/20050422/black_frank.jhtml?headlines=true
As unlikely collaborators as the session players seemed with Black, whose frantic rock with the Pixies inspired Kurt Cobain's work with Nirvana, the singer topped them with the special guest he brought in to duet on "Strange Goodbye": Cobain's ex-wife, Courtney Love.
"I suppose it's just kind of my joke on the album," Black said. "Everybody else, all of our friends, were always so uncomfortable about it, so I thought I would throw this at them."
Huh? I have no idea what this guy is talking about. It must be his prank. I just talked to the guy yesterday. We spoke of the duet, but not of Courtney. He must be trying to get hits on the site.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2005 : 22:25:20
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laaaame.
sup Frank?! |
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frnck blck
-= The Man =-
312 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2005 : 22:43:03
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quote: Originally posted by floop
laaaame.
sup Frank?!
holding court in 15. |
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Black_francis_
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
157 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 03:12:21
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hey charles! I hope you had a good 40th (sorry about my dumb username) |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 08:23:39
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I just logged on to post a topic with prety much that exact title! Then I discover there's something afoot, and FB is holding court! Hot damn!! Crazy! |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 08:55:54
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maybe it was the ex-wife angle that screwed the writer up? that's still a pretty big screw up. jean sure as hell doesn't sound like corky.
the kids on the courtney love message boards are so exicted thinking it's true. poor things. a selection:
quote: i love frank black so much i named a sheep after him
quote: I am so glad that she is getting some of her credibility back after that awful year she had with court and her acting all crazy. If she good enough for Frank Black then people are going to have to start giving her props as a awesome musician again.
quote: She should get Frank Black to produce and/or collaborate with her on a new album.....he'd totally be able to channel her metaphors.
lastly and most importantly, were you born in or around long beach, california? "not even close" - frank black |
Edited by - dayanara on 04/23/2005 08:56:17 |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 09:00:47
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Yeah, I was thinking that too, but how on eath could they mix up his ex-wife and CL?? It's weird! |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 09:24:38
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Sigh...the thread that started it all, it being last night's impromptu Frank chat.
Dayanara I love that you lurk around a Courtney Love site culling Frank-related tidbits. My favorite today is "If she's good enough for Frank Black then people are going to have to start giving her props as a awesome musician again." Um, guess what, she's NOT good enough for Frank.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =
Netherlands
391 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 09:36:03
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http://www.courtneylove.com/
This is from her "official" webpage:
Love Duets With Black Pixies frontman Frank Black invited Courtney to sing with him on a song called "Strange Goodbye". The track will appear on his new Dylan-esque album entitled "Honeycomb" due out July 19th. (MTV.com)
I'm bored with the valleys and bored by the peaks. So I bought a ticket to the Pixies |
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 10:10:14
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Those were some terrific shrooms, Corey. Wish I got some.
bye, Jon Tiven |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 10:39:19
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Jon Tiven and The Man vs. courtneylove.com
Who you gonna believe?
Besides, if you've heard the song you know that's Jean and not...oh I can't even finish such an absurd sentence.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 10:46:37
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i told mtv
Oh let it linger |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 10:48:44
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"...people are going to have to start giving her props as a awesome musician again."
Again? This sounds like the handy work of CL herself. This thread has so cheered me up. I don't think i've ever laughed so hard in silence. |
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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =
Netherlands
391 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 10:56:08
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Red = Courtney Love Blue = FB Black = Both
Strange Goodbye
I used to walk in a big black cloud You took my hand and you led me out A nest of demons played on my chest You picked me up and you laid them to rest
It's a pain to be sure, we were aiming so high It's so strange to be saying good-bye
We saw the world from an automobile Saw the best news views over 10000 meals Funny how an evening turns into years Funny how we're laughing through all of these tears
It's a pain to be sure We sure gave it a try It's a shame to be saying goodbye
Oh, my darling, shall we have one more dance A prayer to the rain god to give one more chance The water will cleanse us as we spin on the plain Take us to the ocean to find them again
It's a pain to be sure, we were aiming so high It's so strange to be saying good-bye It's a pain that endures, we sure gave it a try It's so strange to be saying good-bye
I'm bored with the valleys and bored by the peaks. So I bought a ticket to the Pixies |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 11:28:54
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Hey! Maybe Jean IS Courtney Love!
No, I guess that's a pretty stupid idea.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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Posted - 04/23/2005 : 13:17:37
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quote: Originally posted by VoVat
Hey! Maybe Jean IS Courtney Love!
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
Are you starting a rumour Vovat?
how do I post a pic? - Frank Black 04/22/2005 |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 13:42:02
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Well, we all know how much the Pixies love to rip off Nirvana, or vice versa...
You know, that gives me an idea for a thread. (No, not another Pixies/Nirvana rip-off thread.)
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
Edited by - VoVat on 04/23/2005 13:42:33 |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:00:56
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Well, I heard when Frank was singing the Shrimp Song...
It really wasn't Frank singing it. It was Elvis singing THROUGH Frank.
Yup, that's what the psychic told me and I am sticking to it. . |
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frnck blck
-= The Man =-
312 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:08:27
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this article is a perfect example of a "journalist" taking liberties with the artist's words, badly paraphrasing the artist's words, and flat out making up quotes that the artist never spake...
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Edited by - frnck blck on 04/23/2005 15:08:57 |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:10:51
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Ahh a journalist who makes things up? I am shocked! (not)
Frank I can go beat him up for you!!
I really do love Honeycomb... and Blonde on Blonde. Great hearing the connection between the two. Honeycomb is equality great masterpiece in comparison to that album! Thanks for another amazing album!!
Looking forward to seeing you guys play again in Chi town for Lollapalooza! |
Edited by - Daisy Girl on 04/23/2005 15:19:08 |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:13:48
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Hey Chuck, did you read my review of Rich's show? Now that is good, accurate journalism, if I do say so myself. And, just in case I screwed something up, I began the article with a caveat that any misquotes, misstatements or inaccuracies were totally my fault.
Let me know if you need someone to cover your summer and fall tours, I am available! |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 15:25:25
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I can't believe people are taking this one inaccurate article totally at face value. But then, people are awfully gullible.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 18:47:41
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Dear Frank:
I so appreciate your stopping by and I cannot wait for all your future endeavors, whatever they may be. As my husband often says about me, I'd buy a CD of you passing gas -- everything you do is cool and welcome and I'll open my wallet for. But would you pretty please get the Catholics back on tour one day soon?
Many thanks and much respect from a true fan who does not mean to sound whiny.
Kathryn
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
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Black_francis_
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
157 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 08:43:31
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what the hell is going on?! |
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 08:49:56
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I'd be curious to know what was Frank's real quote. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 08:56:48
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I've sent an email, though who knows if they'll even heed it...
"Joined the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 09:38:06
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If there was a quote or statement from Charles concerning the duet, it seems pretty obvious that the duet was with HIS ex-wife, not Kurt Cobain's widow,...[thanks for pointing out the misstatement herein Dayanara]...ergo, "I suppose it's just kind of my joke on the album," Black said. "Everybody else, all of our friends, were always so uncomfortable about it, so I thought I would throw this at them."
If this was actually stated by Charles it's obvious he is referring to the uncomfortable feelings of his friends concerning hanging with Jean and Charles post-divorce. You know the drill, husband and wife divorce, mutual friends become uncomfortable about hanging with divorced couple post-divorce, [and then usually the "mutual" friends take sides and one ex-spouse or the other is ostracized from said "mutual" friends"] Sounds like Jean and Charles' split was amicable, and he invited Jean to sing the duet and enjoyed watching the tension and anxiety it created among "all of our friends".
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever if you omit Jean and insert Courtney Love. But nonsense has never deterred most "reporters", and evidently didn't deter this one.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 09:44:06
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courtney isn't kurt's ex-wife, either (they were married when he died), so that makes the possibility of a genuine misunderstanding even more remote. |
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
607 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 09:50:21
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Excellent point.
Hey I just checked the MTV website and they have corrected the quote. I guess somebody got through too them. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 10:13:29
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Is'nt it strange, though? :O |
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
607 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 11:08:22
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Yeah...what did they think. Nobody would notice? |
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 04/25/2005 : 14:14:05
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i'd say they're big dummies. |
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2005 : 14:48:46
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I think the funniest thing about all this is that the webmaster of courtneylove.com is even dumber than Corey Moss. |
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