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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  07:56:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Angry Simon

....it's about the fans aswell as the band!!! Surely that's a plus!!!??



Then why not interview real fans?

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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switchy
- Gigographer -

USA
324 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2005 :  10:51:28  Show Profile  Visit switchy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
could somebody please post the "thanks" listed in the book? i think i helped the guy too, back before his douchbaggery was common knowledge, and i'm wondering if i got a mention.
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2005 :  16:08:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know what the hell this is about?:

http://frankblack.blogspot.com/

"Frank Black is the former lead singer of the Pixies and now he's making Cam Gordon question everything."

Is it a journal entry from some pscho-fan of Frank Black?
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2005 :  18:03:31  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I know there used to be a LiveJournal of someone pretending to be Frank. I don't think it exists anymore, though.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
503 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2005 :  06:14:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I spend around 3 hours a day on a bus to and from work, I read all the time on my journey, I prefer non fiction, particularly biographies, recently I have read Andrew Collins two books, Maconie's cider with roadies, crappy old style entertainers biographies. I am currently 90 pages into this pixies biography and it is the worst book I have ever read, badly researched, badly written, just appalling, I would recommend that if you have an urge to buy this, fight the urge and by the dirt by motley crue or wouldnt it be nice, the brian wilson biography, not this shit.

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“I want to be a star!” I cried
They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?”
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2005 :  09:15:48  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Btw, a French biography, simply titled 'The Pixies' and written by Emmanuelle Dazin, will come out on Aug. 26.

Publisher: Castor Astral
176 pages
Price 8,55 €



When will Frank find Lyle, Nick and Eric Drew again?
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2005 :  15:59:08  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I read "Gigantic" this weekend (except for the Vicki's Story chapters)and I have to say that any decent person would be embarrassed to say they wrote it. It doesn't matter whether he likes the Pixies or whether he had any interest in them before he wrote it. All he had to was research his subject and present as much information as possible.

There are so many Pixies arcticles and interviews from UK magazines that US fans haven't seen and vice versa. This book could've been the perfect place to present a lot of interesting quotes.

And I no nothing about song structure and chord progressions, but if I were writing a book I wouldn't describe an album the same way I would in a web post: The first song is good, the next one isn't as good... I know its just a book about a rock band but I thought that there were still journalistic standards.

With a book like "Gigantic" it's pointless to call some parts of it more worthless than others, but the whole "Vicki's Story" aspect of the book is unbelievable. There is no way the author can call that anything but a cheap device to fill pages.

It isn't surprising to read the author's comments to Dean...Anyone who would write as shitty a book as "Gigantic", would, of course, complain that the book is the way it is because other people (the band, their agent) refused to cooperate. As if the quality of all non-fiction writing depends upon the assistance of its subject.

I honestly don't mind that the author doesn't like the Pixies or Frank Black- anyone could find fault with their recordings, and there is a lot to criticize- but what the author of "Gigantic" did wasn't taking an assignment and writing a book, just taking a check and filling pages.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2005 :  20:26:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

Btw, a French biography, simply titled 'The Pixies' and written by Emmanuelle Dazin, will come out on Aug. 26.

Publisher: Castor Astral
176 pages
Price 8,55 €



When will Frank find Lyle, Nick and Eric Drew again?



i can't read no French!
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2005 :  02:47:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice to see it's in the bargain bin at HMV. £4.99 a copy!
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thedude
- FB Fan -

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2005 :  08:23:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I noticed this book at a Borders yesterday and gave it a quick look through. I pretty much went straight to the back part to see what was said about the Catholics.

I couldn't help cracking up after reading that they played a cover of Marvin Gaye's "Can I Get A Witness" in Clevelend shortly after the theft of their gear on the spring 2001 DITS tour.

I'm sure this guy got that information as a result of a review I did of this show and the Detroit and Columbus shows that were posted on an earlier Frank fan website (I can't remember the name of the website. It was pretty good and had some interesting facts about different tracks off of DITS and show reviews among other stuff)

The funny thing is, most Frank fans know he has a song called "Can I Get A Witness" that appears on Oddballs and its not a cover song. (How hard would it have been for the author to to figure that out?)

Well, while trying to come up with the setlists for the 3 shows, my friends ended up convincing me that this song was played in Cleveland. At this point, I'm fairly certain that they did not play the song that night and I'm wondering if it has ever been played live at all.

So, after reading that paragraph, I knew what kind of book this was and came to the Forum to see if it was getting trashed-and sure enough it is! I'm just getting a kick out of seeing my setlist mistake make it into the book.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2005 :  15:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm getting the impression that you could randomly flick through the book and find an inaccuracy.
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MissMaceo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
388 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2005 :  14:51:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is all very interesting.
I've been feeling somewhat guilty for not having read it earlier.
I started on it last week and was pretty much bored/ irritated the whole time.
Glad I read all this, now I can take it back to Tower and get something worth finishing. Maybe Chuck P's new book.
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MissMaceo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
388 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2005 :  21:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ooooook
ok ok ok
i can accept that he would write about a band he didn't like EXCEPT that what kind of shity writer can't find a better job and turn that one down? especially if it was as 'difficult' and 'painful' as he claims??
Oh, one that actually INSERTS FICTION into the account of what is supposed to be a retelling of an ACTUAL EVENT I'm sorry.............vicky's story??? are you kidding me? you can MAYBE get away with that sort of interplay if you are an excellent writer and have a passion for your subject, but since neither of those seem to be the case, mr. mendelssohn, perhaps such an attempt should not have been made.
perhaps you should stick to writing for Blender.

SIGH.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2005 :  16:06:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm guessing it would be more fun if he wrote an autobiography about this Vicky character, and had a bit called Franky's story!
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  16:00:41  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There are tons of books on U2 and Madonna; the Pixies just aren't the type of band that there would be a lot of books about. And that's the sad thing about "Gigantic"- because it exists, there's less of a chance that a real writer will write a real book on the Pixies.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2005 :  16:03:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is another book on the way, though, jimmy-a Pixies approved one, I think-possibly with contributions from the band.
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