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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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 Posted - 04/23/2005 : 11:09:10
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Hey FBC, being the Musician that you are, please read my above-listed post about "bofoors". Personally, I enjoy them!
Thanks.
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/23/2005 : 11:34:10
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CoffeCan, I read all your posts!
Music man I am, but personally I have no such term for these things. I'll go check my bible and mentors away from here and let you know. I just play and leave in whatever sounds good. Alot of this stuff gets left on the "cutting room floor", too many folk press that stop button way to soon. FB's never too shy to leave in something that I myself think adds to the song. It makes it seem and sound all the more live.
I'll get back to you unless someone beats me to it.
A question for Rich?
Scrap the '?'
A question for Rich. |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 14:20:51
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| Thanks FBC, knew I could count on you! |
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matto
= Cult of Ray =
USA
954 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 15:43:12
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i lerve the "quick change for me" at the end of 'do nothing' (it is that one, right?)
"nie za volkot, volkot na vratot" |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 23:44:42
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the whole "suffering" sounds kind of improvised..or the whole brown album - maybe another reason why i like it so much
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2005 : 20:06:37
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Originally posted by matto
i lerve the "quick change for me" at the end of 'do nothing' (it is that one, right?)
"nie za volkot, volkot na vratot"
Oh yeah, you gotcha a "bofoor" there matto. I hadn't noticed that one before.
I'll tell you though, I hear, "Quick tune for me, sorry"...., check it out and let me know what you think...It that's correct it would appear that Frank wanted to do this one, not spend much time on it, but still do it, cause he wanted to, I guess he likes the song,(cover version of the original written by Lynval Golding of The Specials: http://thespecials.com/lyricview.php?sid=23) and afterall, he is The Man.
Hey FBC, matto's got him a bofoor, check it out.
I dig bofoors. They make me feel as if I'm sittin right there in the studio with 'em. I mean, you know, they don't have to leave that shit in there, but they do, and it adds so much flavor to it. I'll tell you something else that adds flavor to this song, and that is the countdown by, I assume, Scott on the drums and all the while you hear the hum from Frank's or Lyle's Guitar,...for me, it just doesn't get any better than that...Fuckin' Rock and Roll like it oughta' be.
[Oh yeah, let me provide a citation to the record for the term "bofoor", see "Rich Gilbert Chat Log - Apr 24 2005", Rich's response posted at 12:42:41 "No nobody has come up with a name for the bofoor and after song stuff...",...ergo, "bofoors"]
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 19:48:09
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Oh yeah, I knew my theory (brown album, brown liquor...)would pay dividends, but not so quickly,...alright, you ready?... gotta another bofoor...."Solid Gold" at the 4:12 mark, right after a stinging guitar, you hear The Man, I mean who else would it be, taking a big sniff, as if he's just finished a job well done and particularly proud of it, and then the final drum roll to finish the song..You gotta love this live-to-two-track thing.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 19:51:47
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 19:52:32
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Originally posted by vilainde
My current favorite one is the sniffing at the end of Solid Gold.
Denis
Let's go get sushi and not pay!
Yeah, Carl, my bad, somebody already beat me to it...
Ooopppps, sorry vilainde, too busy rockin out to remember that you'd already called this one...oh well...
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/29/2005 : 20:00:00
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Ok, I just checked page 1 to make sure no one posted this one...and I checked the lyrics to make sure it's not an official part of the song, and while it's not my favorite bofoor, it'll do...at the beginning of "Suffering" Frank says "YEAH"....btw, one of my favorite lines is from this song,..."Black clouds roll through my mind, Who says anyway these halls are sovereign?"...classic!
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2005 : 15:48:39
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howdy charles - always nice to see you drop by
-Brian
If you move I shoots!
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2005 : 20:07:42
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Hey Boss, thanks for the clarification on the "Do Nothing" bofoor...So, whose idea is it to keep these bofoors in the final cut for the record?...Is it you, the boys in the band, Ben Mumphrey, Matt Yelton, et. al., or more of a collective decision? Or is it left in the final cut for the record only because that one cut is the best attempt on the song?...In other words, if you have two equally good cuts of a song, however one contains bofoors and the other doesn't, will you include the bofoor or nonbofoor cut on the record?...If you ask me, give me the bofoors everytime...they really go hand in hand with the live-to-two-track recordings...And as I've said many times before, they add additional flavor to the songs!
And, please don't think this is "much ado about nothing"...All Things Frank are paramount!
And, while I've got your ear or eye, as the case may be, let me know when you'll be back in Guitar Town again, I assume you'll be back to gather up the boys in the band for your Honeycomb tour, just email me, let me know when you'll be in town, and I'll be your hostest with the mostest here in Nashville,...we'll start out the day down at Loveless Cafe
[http://lovelesscafe.com/] for some good 'ole country ham, bisquits and red-eyed gravy, saugrahm malasis, grits, coffee and a large glass of butter milk, then it'll be time for a mid-morning nap, afterwards I'll pick you up and we'll head over to Sylvan Park Restaurant [http://hollyeats.com/SylvanPark.htm] for some southern fried chicken, corn, green beans, squash, turnip greens, cornbread, fudge pie and wash it all down with some sweet ice tea,...You'll probably want to go rest up and take a nap after lunch...Then, you can get together with the band, practice a little, and when you're ready for dinner we can head down to Ashland City to Dozier's Boat Dock for the best fried catfish and hushpuppies you've ever put in your mouth...After dinner you may want to rest up a little bit, and I'll pick you up at 9:30 p.m. for a night of honky-tonkin beginning at Tootsie's down on Lower Broad [http://tootsies.net/]...and, to finish the night off how 'bout a little culinary nightcap at the Waffle House!
Yeah, me too, I'm starving just thinking about it. Excuse me... [Honey, fry up some cornbread would ya? Nah, it's never too late for a skillet of your cornbread]...
Anyway, I look forward to your reply to this post, and, email me when your ready to do some serious eating, Southern Style!
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2005 : 05:30:29
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how bout that for southern hospitality!
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2005 : 05:35:15
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You're right, Fu, it's mighty kind of OldMan. I just hope I can I snag an invite.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2005 : 06:54:28
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Ooo, Frank looked at my thread! What a lovely way to start my stupid work week.
Carry on!
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
565 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2005 : 11:32:07
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Remember during that one live show when he said... uhh better not...
"Last stand" gets my vote, even though this aint no vote.
Booya! 1c |
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2005 : 00:45:26
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
"Alright.
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I like that.
... how you do that, Scott? Like what's his name, there? Drummer of 15 toms there, what's his name?
I hear I saw how you did that, Scott. ..
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Otherfellers
- FB Fan -
Ireland
87 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2005 : 04:34:07
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Originally posted by tisasawath
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
"Alright.
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I like that.
... how you do that, Scott? Like what's his name, there? Drummer of 15 toms there, what's his name?
I hear I saw how you did that, Scott. ..
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talking about music is like dancing about architecture - Frank..
Your signature, wasn't it Thelonious Monk who originally said that? And I hear "I saw..." as well.
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2005 : 23:32:25
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I don't know for sure, many have been credited, Zappa among them, I should probably put "(not originally)" at the end or something... ehh, it got old anyway.
yours reminds me for some reason of cattle in Korea... you know, the ones that can really moo.
Someone should start another thread on lyrics interpretation "improv" by fans, I think there's still stuff to explore; one of my mistakes (before reading the lyrics): I'm trusting you a son... (Ana; correct: Undressing in the sun)
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 07:25:19
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Sorry, yeah, should be "I saw." I knew that but am on crack.
"Joined the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2005 : 19:49:33
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I was also thinking about what people's favorite Frank vocal would be. Maybe "underrated vocal" is what I mean...well, anyway, I would make a seperate topic but I am not exactly sure what I would call it. I loove how Frank's voice sounds on Skeleton Man which is a song I always forget about until I hear it again, if that makes any sense. If not, oh well. It's late and I'm tired.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 05/07/2005 : 06:41:40
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Originally posted by darwin
Here's a good web site about the origin of that quote. Thelonious Monk is a candidate, but so is Elvis Costello, Laurie Anderson, Martin Mull, and many others.
http://home.pacifier.com/~ascott/they/tamildaa.htm
A good while ago, I was in a friend's car and he was playing some interesting music which turned out to be Laurie Anderson. I was thinking about checking out some of her albums. Is'nt she married to David Byrne or someone like that?! |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2005 : 09:00:24
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Ahhhhhhh, I just found another Bofoor. I was sitting at my desk this morning listening to "A Dab'll Do You" from the "Show Me Your Tears" EP - exclusive i-tunes, and there it was at the end of the song, the 2:28 point into the song (the song ends at 2:36), while the band is finishing the end of the song jam (which begins at 1:49 and ends the song at 2:36, and by the way contains a jazzy piano) and before Scott plays the last drum beats, The Man appears to give his approval of this take by saying, "OK".
This fuckin live to 2 track is full of gems like this. There is no telling how many undiscovered bofoors there are in Frank's recordings.
And hey, if you don't have the "Show Me Your Tears" EP or the "Sugar Daddy" song by Frank on the "Wig in a Box" soundtrack, then you are missing out on some good music by The Man. And if I've said it once here, I must have said 5 times, these musical gems can be yours for the price of a value combo meal at your favorite fast food restaurant ($3.96 plus $.99 = $4.95) and they come without heartburn and saturated fats. So go get 'em, they're good!
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/02/2005 : 13:03:41
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There is no telling how many undiscovered bofoors there are in Frank's recordings.
sounds like we got us a mission on
i'll take the first three catholic records and b-sides, you take the last three and b's
we'll meet back here in two weeks
and 'a dab'll do you' still escapes me oldman, see me slide three rungs on the fan ladder
it all looks beautiful to me
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2005 : 18:04:18
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Fucking Aye, a mission of the utmost importance...
Alright, I like the plan, after we meet back here in 2 weeks, we may want to think about you listening to the last three and b's and me listening to the first 3 and b's and then compare notes, your ear may hear something mine doesn't and the other way as well...
What's up with you, why haven't you gotten the Show me your tears EP? If you can't get it across the Pond, let me know, I'll buy it again and send it to you, after all, it's just the price of a Big Mac Combo Meal without the heartburn and saturated fats...(there's the 6th time)
Anyway, good idea, I'll get to work on the mission ASAP!
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2005 : 04:45:55
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i think SMYT Ep was only made available in the States, or something like that.
i know, i hang my head in shame.
i'm not really a fan.
i'm only here for the Pixie chat and goss
i have no opinion on frank blacks music.
hey, if i should buy one of his albums, which one do you recommend?
is it worth the cash?
okay, mission on.
see you in two weeks but speak sooner yeah
bofoors away!
it all looks beautiful to me
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2005 : 04:55:10
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hey rich, shall we take our findings to another thread away from this one
probably be only me and you so we can compare our findings and frank chit chat
it all looks beautiful to me
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2005 : 05:03:21
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Nice lamenting fbc
Hey, no worries mate, I'll purchase another copy (as opposed to burning a copy and stealing from The Man, I feel guilty enough for buying B-sides on ebay when none of that money goes to The Man, but hey, they're out of print and I can't get those B-sides anywhere else that I know of, so purchasing another copy of SMYT EP will make me feel a little better) and put it in the mail to you within the next week or so.
bofoors away!
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2005 : 05:08:45
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| Yeah, fbc, let's do that [edit: take it to another thread until our findings are complete, that way we won't distract anyone on this thread and we can focus on the mission, update each other on our progress, then we can come back here and post 'em], you name the place and I'll be there |
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/03/2005 : 08:23:02
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it's a date. stay tuned oldman.
it all looks beautiful to me
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2005 : 08:51:49
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Damn boy,...Nice, very nice package I just received from you...shit, I can't figure out which CD I'm gonna listen to first..
Hell yeah, this will help me out on the mission, but what it will do even more than that is greatly improve my Frank Black listening pleasure, especially the live CD's. I only had one in my collection and that was the show at the Beta Bar. But these, fuckin' Aye Guitar Man.
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Favorite Frank "improv"
