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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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 Posted - 04/10/2005 : 12:25:24
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Do you believe in ghosts (no Wilco jokes, please)
or spirits or hauntings?
I don't. I've slept in bedrooms where people have
died, twice lived in a house thought to be haunted,
and I do not believe in this phenomenon. Do you?
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 04/10/2005 : 12:28:06
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I don't. Even when I've had 2 encounters with them in my life.
Ayúdate a ti mismo, y entonces te ayudarán también los demás. Principio de amor al prójimo. |
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Posted - 04/10/2005 : 12:33:33
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I beleive in a place in the sun.
sorry, I don't.
I feel like a completely different person |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 04/10/2005 : 12:33:57
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i believe in the ghost of my former self
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:03:00
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:05:02
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:22:06
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I believe. My dad wants me to stay with him in the most haunted castle in Britain. should be fun.
Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:26:08
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As a teenager, I wanted to stay a whole night in a graveyard, but I couldn't convince anyone to come with me and I wasn't brave enough to do it alone.
Ayúdate a ti mismo, y entonces te ayudarán también los demás. Principio de amor al prójimo. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:29:40
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Tell us about those two encounters, please.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =
Greece
675 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 13:49:47
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I believe in ghosts. I've seen a couple of things. I'm not sure if they were ghosts, demons, or what are called "bleed throughs."
Do you know what a "bleed through" is?
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:06:42
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I don't know if I believe in ghosts. I do belive in the enormous power of psychic persuasion, or basically the placebo effect, as an explanation to many haunted house and ghost stories, as well as in other aspects of life (prayer, for example). But on the other hand I don't believe you can entirely discredit people who have said they've had encounters with the dead. Many seance stories are incredibly convincing and, looking at the issue with an open mind, I would have to say it's entirely possible that some of it is legitimate. I think we have to look at it (ghosts, contact with the dead, etc.) with open minds if we ever wish to learn anything, and unfortunately modern science, for the most part, is too quick to discredit such experiences or explain them away as purely psychological. But I do belive, as a society, we are gradually becoming more and more open-minded, which is certainly a good thing.
I certainly don't believe there are spirits in the sense of angelic beings, gods, demigods, demons, etc., but perhaps that is just my closed-mindedness; although I don't really see any compelling evidence for the existence of such creatures.
¡Viva los Católicos! http://adrianfoster.dmusic.com/ |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:09:00
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not at all.
 Oh let it linger |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:09:59
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Try telling that to the victims of The Amityville horror.
Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:15:29
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I lived a couple of towns over from Amityville
when all that happened and it's not as it is
portrayed. If anything it was a cool thing for
kids to do, drive by that house late at night.
Details. I would like some details, please.
And, no, I do not know what a "bleed through"
is, though I could make a crass joke about it.
So it's a spirit that's between worlds or
what?
This is of interest to me and I thank you
for your comments.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:22:05
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Tell me more about Amityville Kiki. I find it fascinating. Anyone know if the new film sucks?
Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:24:05
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Well, I can't tell you if the new film sucks
but what happened in the town is another case
of a mentally ill person believing they
were being ordered to kill loved ones.
Maybe Thomas and/or OldMan where around LI
at that time and can help me because I don't
remember all the details correctly anymore.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 14:31:52
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Interesting. Any more info would be appreciated guys.
Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2005 : 15:52:29
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I do believe in spooks. I do believe in spooks.
Seriously, though, I don't think I do believe in ghosts. I don't think there's been any real evidence as to their existence.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 15:54:59
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i don't think existance of ghosts will ever be prooved. it's a bit like faith in god. only weirdos believe it.
Oh let it linger |
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1887 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 16:36:45
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I do not believe.
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Spent the night in a graveyard. No spookier then than it was in the daytime.
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Got really freaked out at a Catholic Shrine, though. (Sorrowful Mother Shrine)
Beautiful in the daytime. Scary as all hell after dark.
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2005 : 18:49:57
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Originally posted by kathryn
Well, I can't tell you if the new film sucks
but what happened in the town is another case
of a mentally ill person believing they
were being ordered to kill loved ones.
Maybe Thomas and/or OldMan where around LI
at that time and can help me because I don't
remember all the details correctly anymore.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
I was 8 or 9 when the original movie came out. For the life of me I don't know the real story. I was born and raised in Brooklyn, and the only place on Long Island I ever visited before I moved there was Northport. Northport is famous for its own horror that I remember a little more.
Remember that face, circa July 1984.
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1158 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 19:00:58
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I don't know who that is, but I do know that my dad grew up in Northport.
Oh, and as far as ghosts are concerned, I'm not a believer. I think what Nimrod's Son said though was very accurate.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 19:01:30
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Thanks Thomas. Can you jog my memory about
Northport? Close to where I lived, but I can't recall
what you're referring to. Nice pic. Yikes!
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 19:17:19
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i live in houses where people died for almost ten years (i moved in the 4th flat a couple of months ago). actually it's ironic since everyplace where i moved into was liberated when the owner died and his children put it on rent. never saw a ghost tho'.
 i bash newbies for a living |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 02:06:41
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I feel in places where great traumas have occurred, like battlefields say, that energy can still be present about the place (everyday example: walk into a room where an argument has taken place beforehand and it´s quite tangible). Boo!
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 04:52:09
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We had a poltergeist in our old apartment in Chicago. Used to throw things around when we weren't in the room (thankfully). Plus things got hidden or moved pretty frequently. Never anything bad, except sometimes you got a feeling, for lack of a better word. An acquaintance of ours house sat for us once and said they thought the place had something in it, in the basement, or "coming from the ground" actually, and we hadn't told them anything about it, nor ever spoken about such things. Even with this and quite a few other experiences I've had, I'm just as willing to accept there is a perfectly rational explanation for them. I'd prefer not to think there are entities, possibly good or bad, wandering about. Honestly, I believe there are, both paranormal and supernatural. But not like Hollywood or campfire stories.
It also made its own song on SpudBoy's totally disconnected MIDI sampler. It's very well-developed and quite disturbing, with or without context. It's one of my favorite songs - very traditional Japanese, maybe.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 08:45:42
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I have lived in two disturbed places...one area was our entire block growing up, and the second was a beach house I lived in from 1996-2001. Most of the occurrences were unpleasant, but all were higly interesting. I refuse to use the word 'ghost' or 'spirit' or 'entity'...I think there are areas of our physical spaces that can be inhabited with a persistence of memory, much like our own minds. A big experience, shock, trauma...whatever you want to call something that has left a lasting and indelible impression...always seems bigger and exaggerated in hindsight. Nevertheless, these memories of personal experiences seem to crop up when least expected, and we react physically most of the time (shaking, laughing, crying, gasping...etc.). These personal occurrences are not always negative as well. I think what 'hauntings' are are the same thing, only it's happening in an area(or space as opposed to a person) where something took place...these 'memories' become manifest due to an unrecognized trigger. I don't know. Sometimes I wonder if these 'ghosts' are just as stunned and scared to see us as we are to see them! Another theory I have is that there are different planes of existence inhabiting the same area (as most of our perception is 'round', but our time-line is 'straight'), and sometimes, like deja vu (which I believe to be a quick and sudden chemical imbalance, or bypass), something collides and these planes are intertwined for just long enough for us to see thru a window.
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 11:03:14
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Interesting stuff. Thanks, you guys.
Deja vu is your brain processing the present as a memory,
is my crude, non-scientific recollection of the neurological
explanation.
I think you either believe or you don't and I don't. I've lived in a house
where someone commited suicide and in two houses where someone
has died and I've never felt a thing. One night a friend called me to
ask if I would spend the night at her place because there was a thunder-
storm and the house's owner had just died and we ended up
sleeping in the recently deceased person's bed and the whole night
my friend was freaking out as thunder and lightning struck nearby, while
I just slept peacefully. The family of a college friend of mine up and moved
out of their house because they were all convinced it was haunted. I mean,
the 10-year-old sister, the teen son, both parents, they were so freaked out
that they moved out before selling the place. I just don't believe in this stuff.
But I find it fascinating when people sense it or believe in it. I wonder
what Frank would say...
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 11:43:16
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I was a teenager. Late at night I was sleeping and felt like my body was being crushed by someone. Someone strong. I tried to release myself, and couldn't, but I fighted 'til my lungs were completely empty, then I stopped breathing and felt as if I was in a water suspension tank floating around for ages. "So this is how it feels being dead", I thought. I woke up after a neverending underwater journey through the universe that seemed to last an eternity. I couldn't sleep in a whole week after that.
Probably I felt sleep in a bad posture and it maked my dream, but it was terribly real. I even gave a name to my little ghost, but I don't remember it.
One year before that I saw two times a hominid creature running around my house, incredibly quick. I don't have an rational explanation for this one. A hallucination due to my sexual awakening stress, maybe 
PS: When I was writing that I googled a phrase to know it was written correctly and the first site was about a girl telling a similar story. Scary, to say the least.
Ayúdate a ti mismo, y entonces te ayudarán también los demás. Principio de amor al prójimo. |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 11:44:58
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But as I said, I'm not a believer.
Ayúdate a ti mismo, y entonces te ayudarán también los demás. Principio de amor al prójimo. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2005 : 11:48:55
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I don't believe you have to either believe or not believe. I wonder if that puts me in some other dimension.
A ghost trapped in the logic-string of this thread, perhaps?
There are more things in heaven and earth... like talking meatwads, for instance.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 11:56:40
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Meatwads? Excuse me?
: )
I just remembered how one of my students
kept telling me she was missing class because she
could only fall asleep at daybreak because her
apartment was too scary. She was a decent person and a
good student, so I didn't think she was making up
a story, though it sounded far-fetched for a 22-year-old
to be afraid of the dark. The following semester,
I had in my class a male student who rented
that same apartment, after she'd graduated.
He said that he didn't believe in ghosts until he moved in
to that obviously haunted apartment. I shrugged it off.
For a paper I assigned that involved historical researched, he researched the history of that building. Of course, he discovered
that in the late 1890s a woman who lived there went on a
rampage and killed all the inhabitants of the home, which
in later years was divided into apartments. The apartment
where both of my students had lived had been the room
in which she killed several people. YIKES!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 13:08:19
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Now do you believe!?
Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2005 : 13:10:02
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| I've never been one to believe in this type of paranormal activity. I'm nowhere close to knowing enough to say they're not true, but I haven't been convinced, despite a few terrifying experiences of my own. As delicious as the idea of etherreal spirits walking amongst the living is, that doesn't necessarily lend it credibility. But it's fun to imagine. There are some paranormal or supernatural concepts that could very well be possible. Though ghosts are technically possible, that doesn't make it probable by any means. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 13:21:07
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Still a doubting Thomas despite me posting proof!
Ducking for apples - change one letter and it's the story of my life
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Do you believe in ghosts?
