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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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 Posted - 03/29/2005 : 00:43:15
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This weekend I finished reading another Philip K Dick novel, "Flow my tears, the policeman said".
As in most of his novels, psychedelic drugs (mescaline) were involved.
I have never tried any of these drugs, and I wondered if any forum members have. If so, can you tell us about your experience?
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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Elephant
- FB Fan -
Canada
240 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 01:02:10
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The only psychedlic drug I'm into - IS LOVE!
And also DOING GOOD IN SCHOOL, and also... READING BOOKS!
Right now I'm failing my English Language Arts class, and I've been reading "Kingdom of Fear" for the last two months and I'm only half way through it. Also, the last time I had a girl was 04'. |
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 03:17:04
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Thank you for your contribution, Elephant.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/29/2005 : 03:22:59
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Acid was my drug of choice at artschool - mushrooms are my psychedelic substance of choice now (legal in the uk btw.) never tried mescal but I believe it's a big ride.
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ElevatorLady
= Cult of Ray =
385 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 03:43:00
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| No shit, mushrooms are legal in the UK? Since when? |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/29/2005 : 03:46:02
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Grey area loophole thing - always has been as far as I'm aware- only illegal if prepared (dried and rehydrated) or something stupid. Enough places selling openly.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 03/29/2005 : 03:54:00
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feel free to nominate me as resident psychadelic expert. as a teenager and early adult i experimented with LSD over 250 times, because i can't get off on it anymore, i choose to do mushrooms instead. i only do them once a year now but they still are of great effect. i have experienced both mushrooms(all types) and mescaline, after all, the active ingredients(psilocybins) are almost identical in effect.
by the way, elephant, i dropped LSD one day right before the class before lunch(because it was usually an hour or so until it took effect) and the teacher put me a room all by myself to write an in-class-essay i missed the class before, anyways, i was there until the end of the lunch hour, my friends were wiggin'. i didn't have a clue how long i took but i got an "A".
i hope this post doesn't sound like i'm condoning the use of hallucinagenics, because i'm not. make your own decision if you want to experiment. nobody ever peeled themselves because they thought they were an orange, nobody ever took so much they went to the mental asylum and never came back, but they are mind-altering, i remember waiting at a green light once with three friends and after it turned red we crossed, luckily no cars were coming, it was a busy street.
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/29/2005 : 04:01:05
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Thank you shine for putting things far more eloquently than I'm capable of.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 04:08:53
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i think a trip to the UK is in order, legal means good stuff available. actually, the guy i've got off the last couple years, some spanish crazy stuff........not good for the city, only do camping! sex is way better on mush than LSD, and if you ever take hallucinagens, throw away your watch, it will just fuck you up. do not make plans because the term 'getting sidetracked' was invented on a 'trip', no shit.
You can go eat a decroded piece of crap! |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/29/2005 : 04:39:10
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The only stupid/dangerous thing that I can remember doing on acid was trying to sit an exam on a come down and driving along a mountain pass at the side of Table Mountain, rock face to the left, sheer drop into the sea on the right. The driver of the vehicle was struggling to drive since the rock face was so mesmerizing.
The mushrooms here are pretty strong or so I've been told - the americans that I introduced to them share what I'd have or what is sold as a single dose amongst 3 people and they are by no means strangers to mind altering substances.
Shine come to England - we'll indulge and I'll drag you to an 80s Matchbox gig! Too much fun to even try to imagine!
The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. |
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ElevatorLady
= Cult of Ray =
385 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 04:58:16
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| I never tried hallucinogens so far. I've been thinking about it but I think if I had a chance I wouldn't take it because I'd be too scared to loose my mind. Is this an irrational fear? |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/29/2005 : 05:06:24
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I'm probably the worst person to give advice here, but if you're too scared then don't.
I've always believed that hallucinogens amplify your state of mind - I could be wrong here, but that's what I've found from personal experience.
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ElevatorLady
= Cult of Ray =
385 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 06:20:14
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 06:28:52
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Forum Psychedelic Meet-Up At Surfer's!
Seriously, don't try a psychedelic drug if you're freaking out about what it will do to you, ElLady.
Monsieur, I am happy to help you in your quest. I have never
done LSD, though have been around it "in my youth." Psychedelic mushrooms are a fun time: just make sure you
have plenty of access to the outdoors (nothing's worst than tripping inside) and make sure you wash them down with something that will take away their earthy taste. Never done mesc. but there is a wonderful sequence in the most excellent movie "Beavis and Butthead Do America," where the boys
trip on mescaline. I believe you might find this scene useful as it quite accurately illustrates a hallucinogenic experience.
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 06:36:14
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Oh, Surfer, you and I are ones to talk. Totally unstable,
yet constantly playing with fire. ; - )
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 06:45:54
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Heeehee - sorry Kathryn - some rather basic editing is making you look like you're chatting away to yourself. A side effect of past transgressions?
But the fire is so pretty ;-)
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 06:48:37
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Good point, Surfer. Monsieur, psychedelic drugs make
you sit down or lie down and stare at things. I once
stared and stared at a field at dawn and every little
drop of dew spoke to me. It said, "do more drugs."
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 06:52:05
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I once played with candles - creating the most advanced wax pools, damns and river systems and listened to Miles Davis - Kind of Blue for 8 hours - all the time quite convinced that I had been sold an utter dud.
The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 07:25:03
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A sleeping tablet had me hallucinating once. Had the whole Fordsburg Indian market in my room, down to the smell and everything.
When you take LSD, mesc or mushrooms can you decide what you are going to hallucinate about?
Some university friends of mine once took mushrooms and then vomited for the rest of the day, I was kinda glad there wasn't enough mushrooms for everyone.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 07:34:08
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there are some hallucagens that induce common experiences, I had it described as a higher plane you had to work towards, I'll see if I can find the thing on it
 cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation |
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1713 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 08:16:49
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quote:
Originally posted by kathryn
there is a wonderful sequence in the most excellent movie "Beavis and Butthead Do America," where the boys
trip on mescaline. I believe you might find this scene useful as it quite accurately illustrates a hallucinogenic experience.
drawn by rob zombie of all people... |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 08:19:56
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quote:
Originally posted by tobafett
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn
there is a wonderful sequence in the most excellent movie "Beavis and Butthead Do America," where the boys
trip on mescaline. I believe you might find this scene useful as it quite accurately illustrates a hallucinogenic experience.
drawn by rob zombie of all people...
Rob Zombie is the dude - what are you saying?
The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. |
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1713 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 08:45:53
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i'm sayin' it was my fave part of the movie. you wanna make somethin' of it? :)
i think rz's cool--i mean, he wrote for freakin' Pee-Wee's Playhouse! |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
1972 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 08:52:06
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if only he would have stayed in cartooning/writing for children's shows and not attempted to create "music".
<flame suit on>
So, needless to say, if you were waiting around with five bucks in your hand waiting to buy my upcoming brochure Understanding Poop, you can put that five bucks away, 'cause it ain't happenin.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 10:13:21
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I believe that shrooms are only legal here if they are not prepared in any way. That's what I read recently anyway.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 10:57:52
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Wasn't the trip-out scene in Beavis & Butthead brought on by being in the desert? I don't remember any mescaline..
 "Join the cult of Ray/He was the best Ghostbuster"
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
1972 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 11:01:29
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they're about to die and eat some bits of cactus...turns out to be peyote buttons i guess.
So, needless to say, if you were waiting around with five bucks in your hand waiting to buy my upcoming brochure Understanding Poop, you can put that five bucks away, 'cause it ain't happenin.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 03/29/2005 : 11:22:30
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I tried some sid back in the day, but I never had any hallucinations. I found I just got really aggressive which is pretty funny in itself.
I don't care what anyone says shrooms are fun!
A good old camping drug. I usually laugh so much that I wake up the next day and my sides hurt.
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 11:25:46
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And no drained feeling the following day.
The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 12:11:13
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Mushrooms are quite fun, though it's been a few years. They're a rare exception, I only take drugs when I'm unhappy and I'm finding fewer and fewer opportunities to do em now. My only experience with acid was during college my flatmate who wasn't partaking made me dig a little grave for her goldfish which had just died, though I remember the experience as being pleasurable for a few hours after that, then the next two days I just wanted it to be over.
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"Here love," brakes on a high squeak, "itīs not backstage at the old Windmill or something, you know." |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 12:11:51
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Mushrooms are quite fun, though it's been a few years. They're a rare exception, I only take drugs when I'm unhappy and I'm finding fewer and fewer opportunities to do em now. My only experience with acid was during college my flatmate who wasn't partaking made me dig a little grave for her goldfish which had just died, though I remember the experience as being pleasurable for a few hours after that, then the next two days I just wanted it to be over.
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"Here love," brakes on a high squeak, "itīs not backstage at the old Windmill or something, you know." |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 12:41:57
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This thread's starting to bum me out, man.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 13:39:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
I don't care what anyone says shrooms are fun!
A good old camping drug. I usually laugh so much that I wake up the next day and my sides hurt.
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This is the war and not the warning.
Hehe, sounds good. I know it sounds childish but some of my friends and I like sniffing poppers when we go to festivals. It doesn't last long so you have to keep sniffing, but it makes you absolutely piss your sides at just about anything. You literally start laughing as you finish sniffing. My god have my sides hurt after that stuff. Festivals are great for drugs. I never get come-down after taking ecstacy at festivals for some reason. I think it's 'cos I am so happy all the time there. We gonna do shrooms last year but we didn't want to be monged out in our tents, missing all the bands. We take ecstacy so we can dance like maniacs 'til about 5 in the morning.
Bring on the summer.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2005 : 15:21:43
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Originally posted by offerw
When you take LSD, mesc or mushrooms can you decide what you are going to hallucinate about?
no, i think your mind makes lightning quick assumptions. you also see "tracers" or "leads", that make everything look like, well....stare at the moniter and wave your hand in front of your face while still staring at the monitor, you get that kind of effect way amplified and you can see where your hand was 2 minutes later if you keep staring. tracers looks like this:
also, sometimes the world gets in sync with your breathing, i remember many times in my basement suite every time i inhaled the roof and walls would bow in and when i exhaled they would go back to normal.
another common hallucination was looking at the pavement you would see patterns(different acid, different patterns)like on a persian rug. not the colors but the interlocking shapes and stuff. me and my friends often saw the pavement in the shapes of thousands of little salamanders wiggling back and forth, this isn't to say "we saw thousands of lizards" because we know they weren't there but the tiny little rocks in the road joined to make wiggling salamander patterns.
shadows would have a strange effect also, especially in the size of things, very alice in wonderland like. i remeber taking mushrooms once at a "beer release" on a little island, they held a dance in an elementary school and me and my friends took some mush, it was so wierd because everything in the building was so small(urinals, water fountains, low sinks) we all starting talking and walking like giants it was quite amusing.
i remeber doing acid once and having to show a friend all these different hallucinations because he never saw them before, he said "i don't hallucinate but it feels great". after he saw them he couldn't stop seeing them and asked how i got them to go away, i said "sorry, man, i've opened the doors of perception, man, they cannot be closed, you just have to wait it out man" serious laughter ensued and later he admitted he didn't like the hallucinations. to each his own.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2005 : 03:39:42
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I got slipped acid when I was a lot younger and got too fidgety, had to go run it off, apparantly I was jabbering on about hamsters wheels, and the one time I tried mushrooms I got pale purple neon outlines to moving objects and that was it, I'd obtained a load for a relative and was certain he wouldn't notice there was some missing hehehe
I'm a total drugs pussy though, I don't like it and it doesn't usually agree with me. Last time I smoked the demon weed I had three draws and was out for hours, world slowed down and I couldn't move, my friend bundled me into a car and took me to a house lay me out on the floor and tried to feed me chocolate for three hours till I could talk again, it wasn't nice, the time before that I couldn't breathe and had to open all the windows, then everything got heavy and I hit the floor, woke up in my bed with another friend trying to feed me bananas. When I was a young girl though I never had that trouble, my best friend at school was a dealer so lunchbreaks, on the way to school on the way home from school... and I was fine. Go to university, stop smoking the stuff because it's too pricey, turn into a total pussy!
And poppers, bloody poppers, I went to this gay club in Birmingham the one night absolutely trollied and this adorable skinny little gay guy came and asked if I wanted some of his poppers, sure says I has a good old inhale and goes stiff as a board and falls like a logged tree. My first day at college (it was quite a high brow selective college for Birmingham standards anyway) my dealer friend (who was supposed to be my moral support) told me to smell his sleeve, stupid I did just that literally seconds before I went to meet my tutor for the first time. Giggled my ass off at this poor maths teacher. Bloody poppers.
Now, the shared experience higher plane thing (as I have had it explained to me) is DMT, apparantly there are common themes to a lot of trips in an other wordly/strange creatures vibe, all I know is that it made my friend strip of his clothes and roll around in stinging nettles after puking in his jumper http://dmt.lycaeum.org/reports/reports.html
and for the brits a site I was recommended for the keen gardener http://www.potseeds.co.uk/peyote/index.htm#cacti02
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/30/2005 : 03:44:10
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Please dear lord tell me that some of you have at the very least had the presence of mind to have sex on poppers?
The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. |
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