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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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 Posted - 03/23/2005 : 18:22:57
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i picture Sir Rock's school being like Rushmore, in RUSHMORE
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1158 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2005 : 19:01:02
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Hehe, thank K, I try my best.
Floop, the only thing our school is really missing is an attractive teacher like Olivia Williams to be a Wes Anderson flick. I of course, would play the role of Max Fischer.
Are you honest when no one's looking? Can you summon honey from a telephone? They sat there with their hooks in the water and their mustaches caked with airplane glue. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2005 : 19:02:40
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Rushmore... that's a great flick....
Sorry Sir Rock you had to walk so far in the figgin cold. Well at least you could impress the other folks with some major cool vinyl.
This is definately a sad thing... to add to the list of stereotypes the media portrayed the shooter/victims. They called him goth, which I always hate. Why do you have to make it even harder for goth kids than it already is to fit in? |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2005 : 08:04:38
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2005 : 12:02:02
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Last week, I was at the grocery store and a teenage
girl was walking in and she had the coolest mohawk
-- tall and green and amazing. She was dressed in
what today is called "Goth" but back in my teen years
(70s) was called how the non-disco fans dressed.
Anyhoo. Everybody in the store is looking at her.
Old people are pointing. The tweed-and-pearl-wearing
SUV moms are whispering. I'm walking out as she's
walking in and I lean to her and say "Great hair!"
And her face went from a scowl to the sweetest smile.
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/24/2005 : 12:03:46
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Originally posted by Daisy Girl
This is definately a sad thing... to add to the list of stereotypes the media portrayed the shooter/victims. They called him goth, which I always hate. Why do you have to make it even harder for goth kids than it already is to fit in?
So that they can blame Marilyn Manson.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2005 : 12:10:15
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Bingo! They will find a fall guy, they'll blame some
blameless, totally unrelated thing or person.
And they will also forget all about this subject
until the next school shooting.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/30/2005 : 18:09:23
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Oh c'mon. Goth kids are asking for it.
But not everyone who wears a black trenchcoat and likes the Cure is necessarily a Goth. It's kind of ridiculous to spread these labels around as if they're somehow relevant to the news.
"Reunion? Shit union!" |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 04:39:21
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Yeah Darth Vader's not a goth, yet still his son is ashamed of him.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
607 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 08:02:51
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Originally posted by kathryn
Bingo! They will find a fall guy, they'll blame some
blameless, totally unrelated thing or person.
And they will also forget all about this subject
until the next school shooting.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
I have a feeling I know what is going to be blamed in this case....Prozac. Ends up the kid was on Prozac just like some other kid who shot his parents some months back (ironically enough I remember the Prozac part of the story, but nothing else). So now focus will shift to Prozac and nobody will talk about why all these kids are on Prozac to begin with. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 11:39:36
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Funny you should mention that mosleyk. My friend's
brother recently killed himself two weeks after
starting Prozac, and his family is up in arms about
the drug and contemplating a lawsuit. I'm not sure
what to make of it. It seems like a new phenomenon.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
607 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 12:22:51
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I actually work in research. I started working as an analyst for the IRB of a medical university and now I am in Peds Hem/Onc running their studies. When I was in the IRB I remember coming across all sorts of adverse event (AE) reports with anti-depressants. For instance Zyban which is marketed under that name for smoking cessation is actually an anti-depressant and you wouldn't believe all of the AE reports for people who took it to stop smoking and then ended up with suicidal and homicidal ideations. Not too mention reports of how horribly it interacts with alcohol.
Honestly, I think that anti-depressants are very serious drugs and unfortunately docs can be too quick to prescribe them because we think just because something has an FDA approval it is safe.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 14:03:03
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 14:16:51
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my ex did a study on antidepressants, he told me that the trouble with them is often rather than treat the depression they give a person enough of a lift to do something about it, ie suicide. A good many depressives actually don't do the deed because of the lack of energy and enthusiasm towards it and everything. Fluoxatine gives a quicky fix for that
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 03/31/2005 : 15:56:28
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mosleyk, zyban = wellbutrin, if I remember correctly.
I feel a bit funny talking about anti-depressants because
depression is such a horrible thing and people should
be helped! That said...two of the people closest
to me have undergone bona fide personality changes since each went on SSRIs. One, yes, had her depression lift
but a sort of carefree attitude bordering on mania ensued and she made several amazingly bad choices. She's the first to admit that she traded one devil for another. Oh and she's a mental health professional. The other person, after going on anti-depressants, has had his emotions outright flatline, like he's perpetually in a yoga class. You could tell him his cat got run over and he'd give you a Zen stare. He's no longer depressed but he's a zombie and hard to connect with or even talk to. And he thinks this is dandy and sings the praises of his Paxil. Still, I am convinced that anti-depressants help many, many people.
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 03/31/2005 : 16:04:44
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Yeah Darth Vader's not a goth, yet still his son is ashamed of him.
not true, homers...go watch the films.
luke was not ashamed of dv, just afraid at first. then came acceptance and forgiveness and redemption (after he cut off his forearm) for dv. luke allowed his anger to escape and at the same time, his father's...
dv's daughter prob. never got the chance to forgive on celluloid. now that's sad.
but they all got to roast marshmallows and ewok k'babs 'round the fire at the picnic at the end... |
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
607 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 16:33:45
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Originally posted by kathryn
mosleyk, zyban = wellbutrin, if I remember correctly.
I feel a bit funny talking about anti-depressants because
depression is such a horrible thing and people should
be helped! That said...two of the people closest
to me have undergone bona fide personality changes since each went on SSRIs. One, yes, had her depression lift
but a sort of carefree attitude bordering on mania ensued and she made several amazingly bad choices. She's the first to admit that she traded one devil for another. Oh and she's a mental health professional. The other person, after going on anti-depressants, has had his emotions outright flatline, like he's perpetually in a yoga class. You could tell him his cat got run over and he'd give you a Zen stare. He's no longer depressed but he's a zombie and hard to connect with or even talk to. And he thinks this is dandy and sings the praises of his Paxil. Still, I am convinced that anti-depressants help many, many people.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
Yes Zyban is Wellbutrin. And they discovered that it worked to stop smoking cravings after many people living at residential care facilities taking it were noted to have stopped smoking. I used to work in a residential care facility for the mentally ill, so do have a genuine interest and passion for these issues. I agree mental issues must be addressed. I am not anti...anti-depressants. Infact, most of our transplant patients go on prozac for a time. But, they are very closely monitored. And the prozac really helps them get through the very long inpatient stay pre and post transplant.
Unfortunately I really believe many doctors are too quick to prescribe them when behavior modification would work better. Also, studies have should that anti-depressants and counselling need to go hand in hand. Many doctors prescribe and don't refer.
I am sorry you have had to watch friends struggle with this issue. It certainly is not easy for anybody involved and there are no fix all answers.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 04:58:43
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Originally posted by tobafett
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
Yeah Darth Vader's not a goth, yet still his son is ashamed of him.
not true, homers...go watch the films.
luke was not ashamed of dv, just afraid at first. then came acceptance and forgiveness and redemption (after he cut off his forearm) for dv. luke allowed his anger to escape and at the same time, his father's...
dv's daughter prob. never got the chance to forgive on celluloid. now that's sad.
but they all got to roast marshmallows and ewok k'babs 'round the fire at the picnic at the end...
I knew some nerd would pull me up on that.
I bent the truth a little for the purpose of the joke.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 04/01/2005 : 19:44:32
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I have a feeling I know what is going to be blamed in this case....Prozac.
Michael Badnarik blamed Columbine on Ritalin.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
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Posted - 04/01/2005 : 20:03:37
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Originally posted by mosleyk
...Infact, most of our transplant patients go on prozac for a time. But, they are very closely monitored. And the prozac really helps them get through the very long inpatient stay pre and post transplant...
this has been my experience as well. i work mostly with acute spinal cord injuries and literally every single quad that comes through the door is put on either zoloft or prozac within a few hours of admission. can't swallow the pill? hell, we'll crush it up and shove it down your feeding tube.
i was on prozac years and years ago and it made me absolutely nuts. i'd walk out of the house, leave the front door wide open and drive around town, no idea where i was going... randomly passed out a few times...not fun.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/01/2005 : 21:10:35
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I was one of those one plane of emotion prozac users, it'd last for a while then everything would crumble again so they'd up the dosage until they had me on I think it's 60mg isn't? multiples of 20mg with 60 max? I don't remember. I just remember not feeling much of anything for a long time.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2005 : 12:25:31
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mosleyk, I am feeling the love. Thanks for your words.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 04/03/2005 : 09:02:46
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I talked about it with my mom and I remembered my teenager years.
If I had access to guns in those days I sure would had killed someone. That's the point, I guess.
The violet, the lily and the pink but those I refused all three |
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Another school shooting...
