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Leah
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
314 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  05:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


I can't get why its seldom mentioned here,
I think its fab & seems neglected in the years I've been a list/group and then forum member...

So why am I the only one who rates it?

I mean there are some absolute classics, ballads, all the great stuff that we know and love FB & TC's for...

(Sharpen your pencils now chaps...)


Every choice human being strives instinctively for a citadel and a secrecy where he is saved from the crowd -
Nietzsche

hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =

France
696 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  05:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, dear fellow, good taste is a compromise down here...

Human being feels reassured when he knows he will always be saved from the CROWN. (A Superman)



"Ich bin eine Berliner Sausage..."
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  06:01:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I praise Pistolero at least once a day.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
281 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  09:38:48  Show Profile  Click to see toeknee's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think that Pistolero is like a weaker version of FB&TCs; however, FB&TCs is the best album of the lot.
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Black_francis_
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
157 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  10:11:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this was the first fb and the cs album i bought and i thought it was good. i think the main thing people say about it is that there are more 'weaker' songs on it than other albums they have done. it shoudlnt be ignored though as there are some great tracks. Western Star, Bad harmony, Billy Radcliffe, Skeleton Man and of So bay are all some of their best in my opinion.
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  11:15:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its good but unlike all other frank albums i atually managed to get sick of it.still a great record tho

A day is really two days
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  11:36:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a little slapdash, but I love Western star.

CARL.

"Join up, conform and wear a different uniform!"
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2005 :  12:30:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It reminds me of the time a drove 1200 miles by myself to see a girl that dumped me.

I listen to pistolero almost the whole drive

Especially the intro to the song, when all alone driving in the middle of nowhere where you've never been before and it's getting dark...

makes me think about that drive everytime I hear it...

And how the song ends up, this is a masterpeice, I accept no other opinion.

I just remember...

I'm going out to big plains
To see the spirits rise
Out tonight to watch them
Do their thing

If you're coming out with big plains
To find some paradise
Well there's nothing
Here to do but limboing

And some went back
They couldn't face the black
So they're going back today
With their personal things

I couldn't go back
I didn't have the knack
Yeah, so I'll be staying on with my personal things
I'll be staying on with my personal things

Well they call this a life I live
On ninety-sixth floor
And they call it a life he lives
That's a guy next door

Life on the mighty brick tiers
I tried on the ninety-sixth floor
Mighty brick tiers
Ninety-sixth floor
Something had to give

Why is it so hard to live?
It's just so hard to make things (x2)

Why is it so hard to live?
It's just so hard to make things out

Well I have a suggestion
As you bark your querying
Well there ain't no congestion
On a dark Hyperion

In the ni- ni- ni- ni- night
In the ni- ni- ni- ni- night
Oh no congestion
On a dark Hyperion
Why why why why?

Why is it so hard to live?
It's just so hard to make things (x2)
Why is it so hard to live?
It's just so hard to make things out

Well I'll tell you my philosophy
Things must have been grand
Way back in the old country
In a younger land

Yeah, now I can hardly wait yeah
I can hardly wait to see them rise
Oh I can hardly wait yeah
For it to materialize

Oh, I can hardly wait yeah
I can hardly wait yeah
I can hardly wait to see them rise

They're so hard to make out



one of the most UNDER RATED songs ever...

Floops quesedillas zijn te vergelijken met het likken van fatsige Albert's aars nadat hij een fles laxeermiddel heeft leeggedronken.
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The Susquatch
- FB Fan -

Ireland
95 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2005 :  18:28:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Little Black Francis, "the middle of nowhere" album by Orbital would be great in that situation. I was in a car listening to that after a serious binge of a weekend away in a coastal house, clonakilty, 3 of us in the car all seriously fuct, even driver. Listening to this album in pitch black of night driving dangerous cliffside roads. We knew it was stupid and wrong but thats why it felt so good. Thats a few years back and i wouldnt trade the journey for the world but it could have easily taken a different turn and it has for one i know. Never drink behind the wheel, honestly. And if you do, wear a condom

Hang on to your Taco!
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The Susquatch
- FB Fan -

Ireland
95 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2005 :  18:30:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
P.S. Pistolero is one of Franks bests

Hang on to your Taco!
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Jordo
- FB Fan -

USA
98 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2005 :  22:32:16  Show Profile  Visit Jordo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been really into Pistolero lately. Especially cause I just got dumped (2 year relationship)... For some reason its just a perfect album for that. Little Black Francis, I hear ya, your story touched me. Every night I go home from work, from the job I got for her (she complained about me not having enough money and her having to buy dinner all the time, etc), on the J train, which is an above ground train that takes me through Brooklyn and Queens, and I look out the window and damn that song just runs around my head too.

Long live Pistolero.




Jordan

my music! my music!
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2005 :  05:16:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[Off-Topic...Warning]

Hey Jordo, I read your post about the J Train, I used to ride the E or F Train when I worked in the City and lived in Queens (Glen Oaks, 74th Ave., just off Northern Blvd) Later, my first wife and I moved into the City (1st Ave, between 82nd and 83rd streets), however, after she "fell in love" with someone else (heartless bitch, sorry, my feelings are still hurt, not that I would ever want her back, she later tried to get me back, but it was too late, it's just that the rejection, the unfaithfullness, and the deceit was very painful for me) we separated, I stayed in Manhattan and she moved to Kew Gardens, in a studio apartment, right across the street from some little bar that Rodney Dangerfield used to hang out in (I don't remember her address, blocked it from my memory I guess) A few years later I got the hell out of Dodge, came back to Nashville, went back to college, and I've never regretted any of it.

Anyway, read your post, it brought back some memories, wanted to post to share some experiences, and you know, it's been quite therapeutic, always feels good to exorcise demons from the past.


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Jordo
- FB Fan -

USA
98 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2005 :  12:34:19  Show Profile  Visit Jordo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You lived in Kew Gardens!!! Thats where I live! Thats where I take the J.

I NEVER meet anyone who knows what kew gardens is, wow


Jordan

my music! my music!
www.jordancooperLaLaLa.com
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2005 :  13:33:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh Yeah, Jordo, I know about Kew Gardens. My wife moved there (I stayed in Manhattan) when we separated. Her sister lived in a "rent controlled" apartment building and when a vacancy came up my wife got it. It was at the corner of Austin Street and Lefferts Blvd. Great old pre-war building, elevator service, and the rent, thanks to "rent control" was less than $400 per month for the studio.
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Jordo
- FB Fan -

USA
98 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2005 :  23:31:09  Show Profile  Visit Jordo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, Austin Street and Lefferts is near where I live. My friends work at the comic book store on Austin and Lefferts, and also the movie theatre on Austin and Lefferts... nuts.

Anyway, now the girlfriend I was talking about wants to get back together... so now I'm confused (yes or no?) and I don't know WHAT frank black to listen to!


Jordan

my music! my music!
www.jordancooperLaLaLa.com
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