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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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 Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:37:55
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I have a doctor appointment today and I'm horrified. I haven't been to the doctor is 2 years because I have such an overwhelming fear of them. All I have is a bad cold, but I figured I should have it checked. I don't fear needles. I don't get it. It's totally rediculous...but I'm sweating, shaking, heart pounding, head dizzy...anyone relate? Or, even better, any advice?
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:41:53
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| Take this pill three times a day. |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:43:04
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stop being a pussy.
how long have you been ill? |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:47:09
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here's my advice: you should be afraid. most of them are, well, frightening. that and don't let them give you antibiotics unless they can prove you have an infection somewhere.
wish i had some advice for the anxiety. have you had past bad experiences with physicians that warrant panic?
A monkey will eat dirt if you make him. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:47:45
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| If he was a pussy then surely he'd be going to see a Gynaecologist? |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:51:34
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haha.
actually, not true dayanara, i'm on antibiotics now but my doctor doesn't know what i've got. blood tests shown signs of inflammation somewhere (likely due to bacterial infection), so he prescribed antibiotics for me. seems to be working... bit worrying though. i'm still convinced i'm going to die. i'm able to go about normal business now but i'm still not fully recovered. make it about 3 weeks in total of feeling unwell :/ |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:56:47
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Sorry to hear that, but I've been sick since mid-November.
But then so has my doctor, SpudBoy, and about half the city.
TRANSMARINE, I get that way sometimes too. You should tell your doc, it might help you get over it, and he/she may let you know it's not abnormal. Sometimes I get that way just going to the store. |
Edited by - apl4eris on 03/07/2005 11:59:18 |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:58:50
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| sick with what? |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:00:41
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| fuck me, i thought that was your illness, not your reaction to visiting the doctor. double pussy. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:01:57
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I don't think anyone really knows. A bunch of people at hubby's work were dignosed with walking pnuemonia, doc said it was flu but that's BS, as it doesn't last that long. Basically, I have really painful lungs, occasional sore throat, cough, random chills and low-grade fever. Sometimes I lose my voice, it makes you sound like Marge Simpson's sisters.
They were closing schools all over the place around here, where over half the kids were getting really sick with pnuemonia, bronchitis, whooping cough, and intestinal bugs. No idea what's going on. |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:03:00
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:07:10
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you can get inflamation from stubbing your toe. is your white count elevated? i'd say that's a sign of infection. got a fever? then you're allowed.
nowadays people feel sick, they've got a flu bug or a cold, whatever, so they go to the doctor. now since they've had to spend their hard earned money, miss work, and spend god knows how long waiting around to be seen, they want something in return. bingo, here come the antibiotics. superbugs are popping up left and right - mrsa, vrsa, pseuduamonis. you don't want to fuck around with those guys, and they're here because we dole out antibiotics too freely, and since frequently they're not actually needed, people don't take them as ordered. say grandma sneezes twice and demands pills. she feels better in 3 days because it was only a cold, so she stops taking her antibiotics. now the mrsa colony that was chilling out in her ear and not bothering anyone is quietly developing resistance. three years from now when grandma has to go get her hip operated on (or a hangnail), that super strong mrsa is ready to get to work, and there's nothing you can do about it. happens all the damn time, and it's really, really scary.
A monkey will eat dirt if you make him. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:20:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
If he was a pussy then surely he'd be going to see a Gynaecologist?
you are what you eat?
You can go eat a decroded piece of crap! |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:21:52
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Damn! I was gonna repost Dayanara's scary URL, the one
I'm too chicken to check out, but I am feeling (or have in the
past felt) Transmarine's anxiety, so I'll be nice.
Sounds like you are experiencing some anxiety
about seeing the doc, T, like some horrific fate
will befall you. I'm guessing that intellectually
you know that you're going to live and that you
just have a little bug, but that's not doing you much
good because you are in full-on freak-out mode.
Been there, done that. Just take deep breaths and
you will get thru your appointment. If you feel
comfortable with your doc, mention it. Hang in
there. And you are not a pussy.
Apl, same thing where I live. Everybody's sick.
I've had this annoying bronchial thing since Jan.
and last week my next-door neighbor who had it
fucking died from a morphine OD, which threw
me right into hypochondriac mode and compelled
me to send more than one freaked-out email
to good nurse Dayanara. Bring on the sunshine, I say!
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:24:07
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quote:
Originally posted by shineoftheever
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
If he was a pussy then surely he'd be going to see a Gynaecologist?
you are what you eat?
You can go eat a decroded piece of crap!
Which one will be first to come here and call the other's mom a cock? Floop or LBF? |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:57:00
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You guys are great! Your responses have made me laugh, and I feel a little better. My appointment is in an hour. Arrrrrghhhhh.
I know I'm not gonna die...even though I've been constantly getting really bad colds for the past 4 months and just generally feeling gross. But yes...I always fear doctors will unearth some terrible disease or something. And I guess I'm nervous because I got this really weird little sore on my neck last friday in conjunction with my sickness. At first I thought it was a zit...but its like a sore and it's weird and things like that just totally throw me over the edge. Oh well. I KNOW I'm doing the right thing by going to the doctor. It's probably bronchitis, and that's it, and the sore is probably just that. A weird sore with no ulterior motives. Anyhow, thank you all again so much. I'll let you all know after my appointment!!!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:00:27
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| "beware of doctors, they all went to med school" (Graham Chapman) |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:11:44
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good luck transmarine.
dayanara, i had a fever and was shaking uncontrollably, with pains in my joins (especially lower back and hip area). during the first week it was controllable by simply taking paracetemol or ibuprofen. it was weird, from one extreme to feeling almost fine. then i had a week or so of being worse, now i'm not feeling too bad. the part of the blood test which indicated the inflammation was something to do with c-reactive protein. normal levels are next to nothing (0-5(mg?)) mine was 115 :/ it's weird because for the most part there has been no signs of anything which might help identify the infection - no vomitting, no diarrhea, no cough (bit of a cough now though), etc. etc. just feeling unwell. don't think i stubbed my toe :'(
my dad's a pharmacist so i like to think i'm not a total idiot.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:42:50
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quote:
Originally posted by dayanara
nowadays people feel sick, they've got a flu bug or a cold, whatever, so they go to the doctor. now since they've had to spend their hard earned money, miss work, and spend god knows how long waiting around to be seen, they want something in return. bingo, here come the antibiotics. superbugs are popping up left and right - mrsa, vrsa, pseuduamonis. you don't want to fuck around with those guys, and they're here because we dole out antibiotics too freely, and since frequently they're not actually needed, people don't take them as ordered. say grandma sneezes twice and demands pills. she feels better in 3 days because it was only a cold, so she stops taking her antibiotics. now the mrsa colony that was chilling out in her ear and not bothering anyone is quietly developing resistance. three years from now when grandma has to go get her hip operated on (or a hangnail), that super strong mrsa is ready to get to work, and there's nothing you can do about it. happens all the damn time, and it's really, really scary.
Amen! It's going to be fun when the drug resistant TB from Russian prisons starts spreading.
More kids breast feeding = less kids getting antibiotics for ear infections would be a good start. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:50:20
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| There's no reason to be afraid, unless he whips out a drill or something. I f you have flu, he'll probably give antibiotics. Or an enema(just kidding!) |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:53:26
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if you have the flu, you don't need antibiotics. THEY WILL MAKE YOU FEEL WORSE. just wanted to clear that up.
darwin, the one good thing about TB in this country is that we will actually throw you in jail if you don't take your meds for the full 9 months. i've seen it enforced, too. pretty cool.
A monkey will eat dirt if you make him. |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:55:01
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pixiesteve: c-reactive protein is a phase protein made by liver cells because of stimulation by cytokines produced by macrophage cells responding to bacterial infection, it binds to the surface of bacteria and activates various pathways to help facilitate their removal. You have a bacterial infection.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 13:58:38
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Go kitty go!
Daynara, have you followed the Russian prison story? I've heard they have rampant TB but not enough drugs. So, the prisoners get a fraction of the doses that they need. Perfect for building resistant strains. |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:16:16
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i haven't been following it closely, just enough to be disturbed. mrsa still scares me worse, especially since i know my body is totally colonized and there's nothing i can do about it.
A monkey will eat dirt if you make him. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:17:14
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Originally posted by dayanara
if you have the flu, you don't need antibiotics. THEY WILL MAKE YOU FEEL WORSE. just wanted to clear that up.
darwin, the one good thing about TB in this country is that we will actually throw you in jail if you don't take your meds for the full 9 months. i've seen it enforced, too. pretty cool.
Fair point, I guess there are a lot of strains of virus that build up a tolerance and eventually feed off drugs. But if you never take antibiotics, it might be worth it if your feeling really sick. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:24:29
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No doubt. There's no point in antibiotics if we never take them, but as daynara described they are often used when not necessary or not properly used.
There's also things that the medical profession/durg companies could be doing like rotating which antibiotics are being prescribed for periods of time to reverse selection for drug resistant strains. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:29:57
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| Oh, and antibiotics don't kill viruses, so they aren't any good for the flu. They kill bacteria. |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:35:52
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thats what they do with HIV patients Darwin I believe.
Antibiotics is Bacteria, which either affect the proteoglycan bacterial coat, weakening the matrix interaction or various stages in protein synthesis. Many bacteria have developed immunity and reistance genes commonly by either producing an enyme that destroys the drug, altering the molecular target of the drug or by stopping it getting to it's target full stop,this happens for not only to one but several antibiotics per bacteria, hence super bugs, whils there are 100's of antibiotics on the market they are becoming more and more obsolete as immunity grows. The trouble with bacterial replication and DNA transferance is that it's so bloody quick.
Viruses is trickier and the drug design problematic, I think. There are antiviral agents, such as the drugs used for HIV, from the little I remember though it's all very hit and miss, antibiotics are usually prescribed for the symptoms (swolleness etc) rather than the cure...
i think...
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:39:22
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| I'm asthmatic and have always been prone to bad chest infection. I've found penicillin and the like have been helpful for this, but I agree that its not healthy to take medication for every little thing. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:40:04
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| I think (I'm way out of my area) that with a HIV patient they rotate the drugs. But, there has been talk of doing it more globally. Choose an antibiotic and say that it won't be used by anyone for say the next 10 years. Then bring it back and rest a different antibiotic. |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:43:36
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but reverse selection?
i don't buy it.
i think it's sadly too little too late
but what do i know eh? i don't run gsk!
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 14:48:48
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Drug resistance usually has some cost to the bacteria (slower replication, something). So, if you get rid of the drugs then the strains of bacteria that have drug resistance should do worse than the strains that don't. The hope is that the drug resistant ones will be driven out by non-drug resistant ones if the particular antibiotic is removed for long enough.
I don't know if this has been tested, but I would be shocked if it hasn't. Too easy to not try it out in the lab. |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:00:04
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Ok. I just got back from the doctor.
Now I am freaking out.
My symptoms have no source...in other words, there's no reason why I am feeling so sick. I underwent a battery of blood tests to check my liver functions, because the doctor is fearing I may have some liver trouble. Great. And I had X-Rays taken of it and my lungs and other internals. "We'll call you in a couple days...sooner if there is something very wrong." Thanks, doc.
I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Maybe I am just a pussy.
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:20:47
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Depends on what movies you watch. It sounds more like Twelve Monkeys than Outbreak to me, although I'm sure there will be a monkey reasoning somewhere along the line.
Ash wields the chainsaw attached to the stump where his hand used to be and straps a sawn-off shotgun across his back
Ash: "Groovy" |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:43:35
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quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
...I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Maybe I am just a pussy....
if it spreads and you end up like this, you could probably sue the doctors...
You can go eat a decroded piece of crap! |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 16:48:14
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Dayanara, can you explain mrsa some more? what is it?
why do you say that you have it?
Tre, you are way too smart for me.
Transmarine, the bad news is you are going to live. You will
be fine. Sometimes we feel crappy and then we feel
better.
darwin, you are very right about babies breast feeding = less kids getting antibiotics. One of my big points of pride as
a parent is that my kid has never taken antibiotics, never needed
them.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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