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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
 Posted - 02/28/2005 : 08:40:32
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Many good points here, too many to single out but I will say COF hit
several points on the head.
Catholics tour: how soon is now?
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =
USA
408 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2005 : 11:55:53
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2005 : 12:20:46
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yeah, like the panini ones we use to get here
pack of 6 stickers
a dollar, quid, euro per pack
collect a sticker for each song
album cover sticker is shiney and silver because so special
sticker book too for the collection
you gotta collect 'em all
now that will get the kids into frank |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 01:31:15
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quote:
Originally posted by frank black conspiracy
yeah, like the panini ones we use to get here
pack of 6 stickers
a dollar, quid, euro per pack
collect a sticker for each song
album cover sticker is shiney and silver because so special
sticker book too for the collection
you gotta collect 'em all
now that will get the kids into frank
that's a fucking beauty idea, i bet the royalties wouldn't be too bad either if you had like a "big sticker book of rock" and issued stickers for all rockers, mail-in 100 empty wrappers for your free kurt cobain memorial sticker. 200 wrappers for your free autographed frank 8 x 10. any body wanna trade a pixies sticker for my grateful dead sticker sticker? if anybody steals this idea from this website then doesn't include frank in the stickers i will be fuckin' choked!
I'm what you call a repeat offender. I repeat, I will offend again! |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 01:54:10
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we're so onto something here, i don't think it's ever been done. a sticker book of rock
and i got 2 'Keith Moons', wanna swap for a 'Bowie'? |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7441 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 02:02:38
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There's this French mag called Les Inrockuptibles (the one behind the crazy Frank cartoon with the aliens you might have seen) which celebrated their #400 with stickers representing some of the "most important people in music/film/art/whatever", made by one of my favorite cartoonists, Pierre La Police. The stickers are awesome, here are a few examples:
Eno:
Radiohead:
Jean-Luc Godard:
I can scan the 50 stickers if you want to have a look, it's funny as hell.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 02:19:26
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Yeah, i'll take a peek if that's okay
but this is bad
today i find out i'm an ape and now a bloody plagiarizer
and i just got up
i'm going back to bed and waking up again, hopefully on the left side this time
shit! i got work to do
does it ever end? |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 11:50:13
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quote:
Originally posted by frank black conspiracy
we're so onto something here, i don't think it's ever been done. a sticker book of rock
and i got 2 'Keith Moons', wanna swap for a 'Bowie'?
i heard those keith moons are laced with LSD. 
I'm what you call a repeat offender. I repeat, I will offend again! |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 11:54:51
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quote:
Originally posted by frank black conspiracy
Yeah, i'll take a peek if that's okay
but this is bad
today i find out i'm an ape and now a bloody plagiarizer
and i just got up
i'm going back to bed and waking up again, hopefully on the left side this time
shit! i got work to do
does it ever end?
don't worry about it FBC, if the french did it it's no wonder nobody else knows about it. i remember back in the '90's melody maker (or maybe NME) put out 3 sets of 10 cards for rockstars, with funny ratings and stuff with categories like hardness, respectability, years to make an album in the stone roses case, punchability in billy corgans case, eyebrows in oasis' case, funny stuff, i think i still have them in storage.
I'm what you call a repeat offender. I repeat, I will offend again! |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2005 : 13:27:19
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So we're still on then, still our idea <phew!>
this time next year we'll be millionaires.....or here
I've got an nme playing card, but just the one. it was a present, but not just any old card
7 of Diamonds - Black Francis
(oooh, get me. collectors will collect just about anything, i need therapy)
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2005 : 12:49:29
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| so any more news, 10%er? |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2005 : 19:01:20
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quote:
Originally posted by frank black conspiracy
I've got an nme playing card, but just the one. it was a present, but not just any old card
7 of Diamonds - Black Francis
 Lucky you! |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2005 : 02:53:04
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That's the one
You got any clues about how the dvd's going, Carl?
This thread just kinda died. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2005 : 03:04:45
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| No idea. I hope they're working on some stuff! :) |
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -
United Kingdom
1733 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2005 : 03:47:39
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Originally posted by fbc
so any more news, 10%er?
Hi FBC,
I will chase this up, but I suspect that the release of Honeycomb is dominating the thoughts of CV at the moment.
"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues) |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2005 : 11:35:39
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nice one! and cheers for this.
i was just wondering what is going to be included, if anything had been decided.
and whether i'll be getting my sticker book and free 10 pack of stickers to get my collection up and running. |
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2005 : 14:17:02
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Stickers would be awsome! I got a COR sticker with the special edition. I stuck it on my diskman, that was nearly ten years ago and I still use that same diskman, but the sticker faded to almost white, so I obviously need some new ones!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2005 : 06:58:44
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2005 : 08:23:45
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A true collector, I should have got mine laminated.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2005 : 08:28:52
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| Don't touch the sticker! Don't touch it!! ;) |
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2005 : 13:36:46
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I've got it! Frank Black stamps!, if your into licking The Man! Or Frank Black and the Catholics fancy paper with a band photo where they all have those plastic eyes with the beads in them that rattle around?
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -
United Kingdom
1733 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2005 : 02:02:06
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There don't appear to be any developments in relation to the box set at the moment, at least from Cooking Vinyl's perspective:
"In fact it’s still only penciled in on the release schedule. This means 2 things really – either it will be rushed out really quick & it’ll all get done fast. Or it will be on the release schedule for rather a long time.
I have nothing new to tell you at all – sorry"
"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues) |
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number 13
= Cult of Ray =
286 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2005 : 02:44:40
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Stickers, lots of lives, alternate versions and lots of lives.
And a release date too, they stick too it and it would sound really good to me... :) |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2005 : 12:26:18
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*BUMP*
So what comes next: Catholics DVD or 'The Sicilian'?
Place your bets here! |
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edbanky
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
388 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2005 : 00:19:01
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Have to say, it's kind of insulting to those (all?) among us who have purchased everything FBatCs have done at least once, to be expected to buy them all yet again, for just these few morsels of rareness. This would be worse than the "best of" 5th disc in the Unearthed box set (!). It also seems at least somewhat dubious from the (Cooking Vinyl's obvious) fiscal perspective. My highly uneducated guess would be that almost exclusively, only super hardcore fans would consider buying a 6 disc box set of Catholics material.
Here's my highly scientific analysis:
Current potential offering:
(6 disc box set of 75% rereleased Catholics material @ $59.95)
POTENTIAL CONSUMERS:
1)
Profile: Freako crazy willing-to-buy-Charles-farting-CDs-for-$100-apiece guy (you and me)
Population: Maybe a thousand or two
Purchase Disposition: 95% Will purchase without question
Units Moved: 1,500 - 2,000
2)
Profile: Devoted Frank Black fan
Population: Tens of thousands
Purchase Disposition: Having already purchased most/all of Frank's stuff, will be turned off; perhaps 21.4% will buy
Units Moved: 5,000 - 10,000
3)
Profile: Casual Frank Black/loyal Pxies fan
Population: Tens (or hundreds?) of thousands
Purchase Disposition: Already proven unwilling to buy most of his post 1995 material, will balk as a group at being asked for lots of $$$ for this unfamiliar material; maybe 2.72% of this group will take the plunge, for completion's sake
Units Moved: 2,500 - 5,000
4)
Profile: Who-is-Frank-Black?-Oh,-the-guy-in-the-band-with-the-song-from-Fight-Club-that-Kurt-Cobain-liked? person
Population: Several million
Purchase Disposition: Couldn't be expected to drop $9.99 in exchange for Teenager of the Year; no way in hell would this person consider the purchase. Maybe 1/100 of a percent might go for it, if the packaging has enough 1970s fonts on it
Units Moved: 1,000 - 2,500
5)
Profile: Rich guy who buys everything anyway
Population: 6,450
Purchase Disposition: Buys everything, including this, without a second thought
Units Moved: 6,450
Total Units Moved:
16,450 - 25,950
Gross: $986,177.50 - $1,555,702.50
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Alternate proposition:
(3 disc box set of previously unreleased [or not widely released] material @ $34.95)
POTENTIAL CONSUMERS:
1)
Profile: Freako crazy willing-to-buy-Charles-farting-CDs-for-$100-apiece guy (you and me)
Population: Maybe a thousand or two
Purchase Disposition: 99% Will purchase without question
Units Moved: 1,600 - 2,200
2)
Profile: Devoted Frank Black fan
Population: Tens of thousands
Purchase Disposition: Having already purchased most/all of Frank's stuff, will be delighted to pay for this rarities goldmine; perhaps 83.6% will buy
Units Moved: 20,000 - 40,000
3)
Profile: Casual Frank Black/loyal Pxies fan
Population: Tens (or hundreds?) of thousands
Purchase Disposition: Already proven unwilling to buy most of his post 1995 material, will largely balk as a group at being asked for the equivalent of 2+ standard CDs; maybe 16.81% of this group will take the plunge, for completion's sake
Units Moved: 20,000 - 40,000
4)
Profile: Who-is-Frank-Black?-Oh,-the-guy-in-the-band-with-the-song-from-Fight-Club-that-Kurt-Cobain-liked? person
Population: Several million
Purchase Disposition: Couldn't be expected to drop $9.99 in exchange for Teenager of the Year; no way in hell would this person consider the purchase. Maybe 1/50 of a percent might go for it, if the packaging has enough 1970s fonts on it
Units Moved: 2,000 - 5,000
5)
Profile: Rich guy who buys everything anyway
Population: 6,450
Purchase Disposition: Buys everything, including this, without a second thought
Units Moved: 6,450
Total Units Moved:
50,050 - 93,650
Gross: $1,749.247.50 - $3,273,067.50
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Conclusion:
So the numbers themselves might could be just a tad off, but the principle is kinda sound, right?
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I signed up for the FrankBlack.net forums and all I got was this lousy signature. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7441 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2005 : 00:46:10
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Mmmhhh... I think the figures are way off. Selling 20,000 6-CDs box sets would be quite an achievement IMO. But I get your point.
Denis
"We brush our teeth with tequila." - Guitar Wolf |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2005 : 01:35:21
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Reading the reviews in the press of Honeycomb, I notice lots of misunderstanding about the Catholics. Many critics seem to have barely listened to the Catholics work (if they ever listened to it at all).
There's the Pop Matters review of Honeycomb that describes the Catholics music as "raw, garage-ready rockers", making them sound like the White Stripes or something.
Still other Honeycomb reviews are expressing sentiments like "Wow, Frank Black is finally making a departure from writing songs about UFOs and Pong! How strange it is to hear him sing a country song!". Never mind that Frank's been doing this for years (as we all know).
As I say earlier in this thread (months ago), if people ignored and are barely aware of what Frank was doing during the Catholics era, they're gonna doubly ignore a collection consisting strictly of that era's b-sides and rarities. A package containing the original albums makes for a more high profile, sellable release. And it will encourage re-evaluation.
"If you like Honeycomb (and The Sicilian), here's a package of the albums that led up to it. Catch up with what you missed." |
Edited by - Jason on 08/12/2005 02:57:23 |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7441 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2005 : 01:49:36
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You're right Jason. The last Honeycomb review I read (in French) talked about the Catholics as a "metal-punk band". WTF?
Denis
"We brush our teeth with tequila." - Guitar Wolf |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2005 : 02:55:59
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quote:
Originally posted by edbanky
Alternate proposition:
(3 disc box set of previously unreleased [or not widely released] material @ $34.95)
Profile: Devoted Frank Black fan
Population: Tens of thousands
Purchase Disposition: Having already purchased most/all of Frank's stuff, will be delighted to pay for this rarities goldmine; perhaps 83.6% will buy
Units Moved: 20,000 - 40,000
According to an article last year, by early 2004, Show Me Your Tears had sold 16,000 copies. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2005 : 18:53:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl
quote:
Originally posted by frank black conspiracy
I've got an nme playing card, but just the one. it was a present, but not just any old card
7 of Diamonds - Black Francis
Lucky you!
i have one of those too. also a present. ex-girlfriend got it for me and even put it in a frame..
aside from the still owing $700, she was pretty cool |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2005 : 04:18:55
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SNAP!
And boy, you're expensive.
so how much d'you charge an hour? |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2005 : 13:32:45
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| $700 is my discounted rate |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2005 : 13:36:05
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| and worth every penny too from what i've heard |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2005 : 15:45:54
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| you've been in contact with Mrs. LBF? |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6196 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2005 : 16:05:42
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haha
nice jokings darlings
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God save the Noisies |
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Catholics Box Set - Cooking Vinyl request
