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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
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 Posted - 02/23/2005 : 14:02:21
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Uh, I was just kidding.
Next time I'll add a  at the end of my post... |
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Posted - 02/23/2005 : 14:21:10
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I know that you were kidding!
But it's almost that, isn't it? 
Someone tell me why I act like a fool
When things don't go my way
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 14:50:03
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I doubt I would buy such a box set. I'd want a disc of rarities, and I wouldn't necessarily be adverse to getting the first two Catholics albums on CD (I currently only own the eMusic versions), but I think the whole thing would end up being too pricy for me.
"Reunion? Shit union!" |
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surferben
- FB Fan -
USA
54 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 15:01:05
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yeah, ssmvgd would be great. i also like the idea of a live disc made up of songs taken from many different shows.
and now i'm living in the cold but i'm looking for the sign |
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =
USA
715 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 15:15:09
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SSMVGD must be included, and not as part of a rarities cd, but as its own album, complete with cover art and all.
If there is a live show, I'd vote for a preformance around dog in the sand or pistorelo. I know a lot of great music came after, but of the shows I've seen, that era was the best.
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I go to bakeries all day long
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 18:10:32
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Thanks so much Ten Percenter for stoping in to ask us our humble opinions!! Wow I am so happy hearing this news I really don't know what to say. These people here have good ideas!! Anyway thank you for listening to us!
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =
Greece
675 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 21:19:23
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It doesn't make since not to release this in the U.S. That would be a real let down. If most of the FB fans are in Europe or Canada then why don't we have limited release in the U.S.? All I can say is that I would definitely rebuy all the albums if these juicy extras were included. Put SSMVGD in there and it will sell like crazy among all of the people that already have the other albums. Dammit, there is so much FB material floating around out there that haven't go to hear. What's the deal?
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2005 : 21:38:59
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| I suggest that this box is released on vinyl, since DITS, BLD, and DW were not released on vinyl, this re-release would give me more inscentive to buy the box. I also agree with what Jason suggested (I almost always agree with Jason) about the entire Catholics show being a nice touch, and some FB commentary and photos. Though it'd probably be nice to have a Catholics show from 2002, that way we'd get songs from all the albums (including SMYT and COR; he still played MIB in 2002. But in the SMYT tours he never played any COR songs) |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 02/23/2005 : 22:31:50
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i think it would be great to throw in some of the (many) Frank solo performances (Catholics songs if they have to be) he's done on radio and in record stores and various venues..
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Someone
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 02/23/2005 : 23:16:18
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| Most of the fb cds i have are burned so this would be a good way for me to make amends in one purchase. personally I would like to see a whole disc of frank solo acoustic. Is it just me or are there gonna be like 8 10 cds coming out this year and a pixies dvd? fucking awesome. i hope frank puts out everything he can find tht he has recorded. i'd buy a cd of frank cutting the proverbial cheese if offered. |
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Someone
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Posted - 02/23/2005 : 23:21:45
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| i think i speak for many here. i have a good deal of rareties not not them all. just throw together all the rareties onto 2 or 3 discs and that would be incredible. we all want ssmvgd. we all want live shrimp song. just bundle that crap together and name a price. we'll buy it. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 01:42:43
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ssmvgd!
if you have a picture of me, be sure to include, or you can just thank me. jon laird is my name. and instead of putting it in a box, ypou should put it in a bucket. yeh, a bucket set, i like that. make sure you include a picture of frank with jack errol. babies rule. also, i would like a whole disc of "blast off". i say that now, i still might think it in the morning.
I'm what you call a repeat offender. I repeat, I will offend again! |
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 02:16:36
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| Who would by the box? The überfan. Why ask those fans to pay for all the albums one more time in order to get a hold of the rarities, most of which they have in their possession allread? There's plenty of cool material to be included that would make-up a box anyway. Complete live shows, peel sessions, maybe some cool accoustic perforances, ALL the b-sides, bonus-material from albums (the accoustic versions), alternative takes and outtakes from catholics sessions + the complete SSMVGD. A DVD with would completement such a selection and make it worth the money. |
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 02:26:40
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 02:39:11
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Aren't all FB fans überfans?
The violet, the lily and the pink but those I refused all three |
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 03:09:10
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DIGIPACKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EU: the 4th collaborating Reich |
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 03:57:17
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ya, i dont understand the box set idea...... unless its all B-side singles, SSMVGD, live etc...
re-releasing whole albums that are already available seems not really a good idea...
I know Frank is worried about the quality of some stuff especially with the concerns he expressed about FrankBlackFrancis... but to be quite honest the Treated disk of that release added nothing to the package, that first Demo CD alone of his early croning is excellent, the extra treated stuff (i listened to about 2 times) was quite boring.....
anyways, my input would be to package up all the stuff (SSMVGD, B-sides and Live etc) onto a boxset. That would be a great document of a great artist. To be fair re-releasing albums is a bit of a cheap trick, cos us uber fan's will defintely want to get the rare stuff and end up buying the albums all over again..... U've got to direct the stuff at either casual listeners "best of" territory or devoted fan's "live and unreleased" ......
that's my 2 cents
btw, i am right that the 2nd disc on FBF added very little?... everyone got it for early frank, right ?
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 04:40:21
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
Aren't all FB fans überfans?
neh, the uberfans are just the ones here.
every gig i've been to has been sold out and queues around the corner, then I come here and see a collective of about 30 something. where are the rest?
so we the ubers, the ones who take time out to chat here |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 04:43:14
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i take it the box set is a celebration of the catholics. and the end, too?
Death To The Catholics? it was fun while it lasted |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 05:23:06
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Originally posted by lonely persuader
btw, i am right that the 2nd disc on FBF added very little?... everyone got it for early frank, right ?
We're not gonna have this discussion again, are we? I listened to the demo disc exactly once, and I'm not even sure I listened to the whole CD. Whereas I listen to the treated disc (and enjoy it) regularly, last time was last week.
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 05:36:24
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I was talking about the "fact" (I thought it was a fact) that you can only absolutely LOVE Frank or be uninterested at all in him, you know.
The violet, the lily and the pink but those I refused all three |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 06:35:06
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i don't know why everyone is assuming that this isn't going to get released by spinart - fb said in the post about the bsides album that "nyc," which i assume he means spinart's offices in nyc, were planning a 6cd boxset, plus a dvd - isn't that pretty much the same thing? i'm sure that it wll be the same release, or a very similar one, on both sides of the pond.
-Brian
If you move I shoots!
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 06:38:21
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Someone said "nyc" meant NYC Records. spinArt releasing the box set makes much more sense.
Denis
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moro
- FB Fan -
Italy
192 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 07:54:05
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Originally posted by ivandivel
Who would by the box? The überfan. Why ask those fans to pay for all the albums one more time in order to get a hold of the rarities, most of which they have in their possession allread? There's plenty of cool material to be included that would make-up a box anyway. Complete live shows, peel sessions, maybe some cool accoustic perforances, ALL the b-sides, bonus-material from albums (the accoustic versions), alternative takes and outtakes from catholics sessions + the complete SSMVGD. A DVD with would completement such a selection and make it worth the money.
I agree with this...and a DVD must be in that box |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 07:54:58
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In a perfect world, we would get an all rarities-all live concert Frank Black & the Catholics box, without the albums taking up space in there. I don't think that will happen, though.
In my opinion, here are the benefits of putting the albums in the box (from the record company's POV):
- The box gets taken more seriously in the press. Rereleasing the albums is more of a cause for critical reappraisal than releasing rarities only.
- The audience for this box: 1.) the hardcore fans who will still buy it just for the rarities/packaging (and maybe its "collectable"-ness). 2.) People who got into the Pixies hype last year and who might be interested in Frank's Catholics work if it were given a new push by the label(s) and press. The Catholics albums have probably sold modestly enough that group 2 might well be much larger than group 1.
And, for those who don't want to splurge on a box set as a first purchase, the revived press attention might drive many of the newly "Catholics curious" to buying up some of the individual albums, raising sales of those. Box sets (and greatest hits albums) often have a way of being an indirect promotional tool for a band's entire catalog (why, for example, did a Nirvana Greatest Hits CD come out when Nirvana's album discography is pretty small and easily gathered together? It was to revive attention paid to Nirvana. I bet the whole back catalog got a decent spike in sales because of it.) |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 08:33:47
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
I was talking about the "fact" (I thought it was a fact) that you can only absolutely LOVE Frank or be uninterested at all in him, you know.
yeah, sort of. though i know plenty who like some of his music, but not all
they're interested in him when it suits
they the grey area folk |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 08:49:23
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so i take it this will be no more...
Frank Black and the Catholics
ONE MORE ROAD FOR THE HIT
01. Show Me Your Tears
02. Don’t Clip Your Wings
03. Humboldt County Massacre
04. Pan American Highway
05. Angst
06. Constant Sorrow Man
07. Le Cigare Volant
08. Living on Soul
09. Preacher’s Daughter
10. Ludwigshafen
11. Pray for the Girls
12. Valley of Our Hope
13. A Dab Will Do You
SNAKE OIL
01. Down In The Hole
02. Do Nothing
03. Going Down
04. The Big Hurt
05. Take What You Want
06. Some Things
07. Belle Isle
08. Changing Of The Guards
09. Sleep
10. Snake Oil
...seeing that we're having both a live and rarities disc now
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 09:03:38
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Originally posted by frank black conspiracy
i take it the box set is a celebration of the catholics. and the end, too?
Death To The Catholics? it was fun while it lasted
Yes, I think that too, that's what's sad about this box, the end of the Catholics.
Please include a DVD, we need it!
Someone tell me why I act like a fool
When things don't go my way
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 09:10:14
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this was the latest from FB on the b-side/rariety compilation box set, so a DVD is probably likely. very good news, hey rita.
but this collection slightly differs to what Ten percenter and Cooking Vinyl are saying here in this thread.
NYC HAS BEEN UPBEAT ABOUT DOING A BOXED SET; ALL THE RECORDS, PLUS THESE 2, PLUS SOME OTHER STUFF; MAYBE A DVD WITH CONCERT AND VIDEO STUFF? ANY GOOD BOOTLEG STUFF OUT THERE?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 09:10:27
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I bought the Pixies DVD nearly a year ago now, and I still haven't opened the box. I also have DVDs of Roxy Music, The Clash, Cypress Hill, David Bowie, Jeff Mills, and Les Wampas, and I haven't seen any of them. And I have CDs by Tricky and the Blues Explosion which came with bonus DVDs, and guess what... yep, still unopened. I'd probably watch a Catholics DVD though, cause hey, they're the Caholics.
Denis
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 09:15:28
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Hey Denis, do you want me to go there and open it? How can you do that,
when I buy a DVD or a CD I can't rest untill I have enough of it...
A Clash and a David Bowie still closed???
Someone tell me why I act like a fool
When things don't go my way
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2005 : 09:19:43
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Yeah. Ain't it sad? I never took the time to sit down and watch them. Most of them are gifts but I actually paid for the Pixies and Wampas DVDs just to put them on the shelf and leave them there. I'm stupid.
Denis
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stymie
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 09:28:58
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I think that the box should include everything frank ever did without the pixies. Released, unreleased, everything plus a bonus dvd or two! _
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 09:42:20
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| Whatever comes out I'll buy it!!! F.B. and The Catholics music is really the reason we are all here in this magnificent forum. |
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windupbird
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Posted - 02/24/2005 : 10:22:47
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I remember a Catholics show where they played a song by Angst (the band, not "Angst" the song) and it was great. Would love to hear that again.
Also, any alternate takes from their live to two track studio sessions - especially if they were trying out songs in different styles, like that early version of "I'll be Blue". I'm sure there's gotta be some interesting stuff. |
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Catholics Box Set - Cooking Vinyl request
