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juicemode
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Canada
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Posted - 01/29/2005 :  18:23:38  Show Profile  Click to see juicemode's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
this is for the radiohead slaves...

radiohead, man i can recall my self chillin out in my bed, listening to thinking about you, and visualising tom, in the room he describes in the song, talking about that girl, or even pull/pulk revolving doors, a messed up song, but apart from messed up at first, intriguing and unbelievably creative. Who knows why they are talking about doors and the various types there is. But its sooo good, anyways,, im cutting this short, post post and POST. keep on posting , will make this interesting,,



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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2005 :  18:32:04  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
now I'm going to the radiohead forum
and make a post about some frank black songs
that nobody will understand
(the post that is)

or am I dumb?

well, forget it,
welcome to the forum

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2005 :  18:36:22  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Don't go there! They'll eat you alive!

I read through it once and there was a pixies thread and all these people going on about how 'even though the pixies are listed as one of radioheads influences I can't stand them' and 'It's just unintelligent loud noise' and a whole heap of pseudo-intellectual bullshit. I think I made one post there and was accused of being ignorant and 'not a true radiohead fan' fucking idiots.

(and just to be anal - it's Thom not Tom)


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2005 :  19:37:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I say this in all seriousness and with the understanding that
many of you will chew me up and spit me out:

Radiohead? Overrated boy band.

I mean, they're OK and I happily listen to them once in a while, I am happy
that people adore them, but, let's get some perspective, they are not revolutionized or discovered a single thing.


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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2005 :  23:13:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am sorry I never got into radio head. That was because in part I thought too many people liked them and in part because I was at a stage in life that I was more into retro rock and hip hop.

But I do think they're a great band. I just heard a new song by Thom York and is side project band. It blew me away. It was very simple, ecclectic and hauntingly beautiful.
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  02:42:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really liked The Bends and OK Computer, there were some very nice pop songs on these albums. Climbing up the walls was a great song. Overrated? Hell yes.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  04:30:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn



let's get some perspective, they are not revolutionized or discovered a single thing.


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank



Have the Catholics?

I love that song, 'Thinking About You'. Makes me remember the time when Radiohead were good.

Love, love, my season

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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =

USA
936 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:00:54  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I never really liked Radiohead myself, never really disliked them either. They're music just tends to bore me or baffle me never really entertain, except for that first single "Creep" that was cool as was "Anyone Can Play Guitar" so I guess from what I've heard I like their first album the best, most people think that one is garbage right? I think a lot of Radiohead fans probably are psuedo intellectuals and as that is a stage we all seem to go through we glob on to them at some point and then eventually when we're through it they're one of the groups that sticks with us a little bit because some of the stuff is just really pretty... I don't know it's Sunday morning and I'm half awake.

"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:05:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No the first album is very good.

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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =

USA
936 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:09:57  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Damn skippy. I win again. Now to find the Weezer thread.

"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders

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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:12:21  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Pablo Honey is a great album there's a couple of dodgy tracks on it (how do you do) for one, there are two releases the normal and the japanese with extra tracks which is great, the bends is a bit more sophisticated but most people seem to have this as their favourite it is a beautiful album, OK computer is next which is rockier and pretty much joint with the bends for popularity, then kid A and amnesiac which most people don't like but I really do and lastly hail to the theif which is half good and half less good, I don't like some of the tracks on it but there there, 2+2=5 are really good. Some of the eps (esp. the my iron lung ep are fantastic)

A lot of the radiohead fans do come off as elitist snobby intellectual types which is a big shame really because I do believe they are an excellent band.



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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =

USA
936 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:14:19  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I couldn't stand that single "There There" from their last album. Maybe it's me.

"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders

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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:18:41  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it's an each to their own sort of thing, but I get the feeling a lot of people don't give radiohead a chance because of some of the twattier obsessives that the group tend to attract. Really twatty obsessives. I think they believe their own hype too much.

There There was a grower on me, the first time I heard it was with the video and that video really is shit.



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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =

USA
936 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:21:01  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah that video does suck. I'll probably get more into Radiohead one day. Some bands I just don't get to until certain points.

"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders

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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:31:34  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jeez, tough crowd. I love Radiohead, but I absolutely hate Pablo Honey. OK Computer is easily one of the greatest albums of the 90s. Hail To The Thief took me a few listens to get into, but I love it now. Like Frank said in Rolling Stone, I wish Thom would enunciate.


I guess I just wasn't made for these times.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  06:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK Computer is undoubtedly one of the greatest albums of all time. You can disagree but you will still see it in the top ten of nearly all such lists in music mags etc, and deservedly so. Genius album and a band at their peak, probably never to be revisited.

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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  07:48:12  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I really like Kid A.

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4109 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  07:59:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Radiohead is one of those bands that ...It's not that I don't like it but it just doesn't makes me feel anything, I know that they might be good but that's how I feel it. Maybe this was supposed to be in that other thread!


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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  08:04:02  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Seeing the vitriol towards the band is a little strange. I guess that's the backlash you have to expect when the media pushes it down people's throats? Personally I appreciate what they've done and that it managed to get such a large and loving audience -it's far better than the vast majority of popular music, and it has a heart and soul, and an artistic dedication even after all the hype. I really love most of Radiohead's music, but especially from OK Computer forward.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  08:48:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gosh, I hope I am not guilty of expressing vitriol (and I am not implying
that dear Apl was saying I was). Some people on this thread have
expressed my feelings about Radiohead in a more eloquent and polite
way than I have. Maybe it's the intensity of their fans, with their Hare Krishna-like pronouncements, that turn me off. Homers, and you know
I love you, I'll be the first person to admit that the Catholics haven't
revolutionized anything. I've never said that FB+TheCs are the best
band of all time or have put out The Best Album Ever, because I don't quantify music that way. All I care about
is that FB+theCs make me happy. So much of I have heard and read about Radiohead
is a hierachical quantifying of them to show their supposed superiority (aka elitism) that their are the best and the smartest and the shiniest and best. To me, at
least, that's a turn off. To recap: elitism = a turnoff.





I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank

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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  08:58:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I was just making the point that you don't have to revolutionize to be a very good band. Despite that, I think that Radiohead will end up being a very big influence on future bands.

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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  09:22:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you must give Radiohead credit for evolving and not resting on their laurels. The Bends was a heavy guitar album of which I particularly liked the sound. They then did a 180 degree turn with OK Computer which sounded quite different and have continually changed enough things that you could never know what to expect next. I like a lot about all the recent albums as well, even though most of the songs are not nearly as neatly "packaged" as several on OK Computer. Very creative stuff.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  09:29:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can definitely not accuse Radiohead of resting on their laurels. They are a forward thinking band.

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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  09:37:52  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think they have already influenced a lot of music, especially british music.

Kid A which got slated when it came out is one of my favourites, I don't think people give it enough of a chance becasue it was so different from the first three albums, but songs like morning bell and treefingers and everything in it's right place and all of them I think are beautiful. I found amnesiac harder to get into but it's hard to deny that pyramid song is beautiful.

With the exception of Kid A and amnesiac every album takes a new and different step. Pablo Honey feels like a debut, it's poppy and fresh and very unrefined. It's an obvious first album and a good one at that. The bends established radiohead by being smoother and one of the best 'mood' albums I have ever heard. Gorgeous songs, nicely presented and a complete feeling album. OK computer is more progressive and more rocky and quite clever, paranoid android is a top single and six minutes long, at the time, here especially, indie music was all about the short poppy simple songs and then this complex phase changing glorious 6 minute rant smashed that somewhat. A few years later there is Kid A/Amnesiac which are more electronic and almost run like a concept album, they are quite experimental maybe not for music as a whole but for this band. They're trying new things and stepping out of any formula which is brave when you are that established. Hail to the theif is a more grown up record obviously influenced by recent world goings on and matters that affect the band, like the birth of Thoms first child. I like most of this album (myxamatosis, Punchup at a wedding, A wolf at the door..) with couple of exceptions, but mostly I don't like the one or two songs that are highly personal like sail to the moon which is a song about his son.

I like sometimes that he drawls rather than makes each word perfect, the big mistake people make with so much music is focusing on the lyrics when it's the sounds that are important, especially with bands like radiohead, the noises that come out of his mouth are just lovely sometimes.

I think another problem people have with radiohead is the percieved seriousness, it's so often automatically equated as miserablistic and intense, which isn't often the case. I think so often the hype rather than the songs are the issue.

rant rant rant...



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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  09:43:52  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not at all kathryn, I didn't see any of that in this thread really, though "boy band" seems a bit harsh IMHO. heheh
I meant just overall, there's been a lot of talk...on the forum and elsewhere, about them that was kind of over the top negative and personal, or at least it seemed so to me. It's interesting to see how what the press says effects people's opinions, I know it often changes my perspective too. But I don't take any offense, it's just opinions, I just think it's a strange response, and the media is probably mostly responsible for it.


Lon the Fisherman has wooden legs, but real feet.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  09:49:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We're cool, Apl, we're cool!

Boy band. I was thinking about the ultimate overrated boy band,
another English boy combo, a little outfit called The Beatles.

*ducks to avoid rotten fruit being tossed in her direction*


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  09:51:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Long live Radiohead!

I wonder what their next album will be like? I don't really like the last two (though I think I need to listen to them more), but it says a lot about the band that I am still excited to hear what they will do next. They keep things interesting for sure.

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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 01/30/2005 :  11:31:13  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
What I've heard of them is okay. A little dull, I think. I have an easier time getting into more upbeat stuff. They're definitely good musicians, though. I kind of get the sense that they're a band that a lot of people like because they think they're supposed to, but I could be wrong about that.



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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/30/2005 :  11:42:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think that people could be accused of that with their earlier stuff, but perhaps with their more recent stuff. It's hard to tell which people are actually like that though.

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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
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Posted - 01/30/2005 :  13:34:07  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I don´t know about them being overly serious, I find them quite funny in a droll way

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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 01/30/2005 :  13:34:46  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was a huge Radiohead fan around '97, when OK Computer came out, they were far away the best band I'd ever heard. That album is still top 5 material for me.
i think it was about 3 years after that Kid A came out, and my music tastes had changed considerably (not really for the better, I see that in retrospect), so I didn't really appreciate it. I never bought Amnesiac, although I did give HTTT a try. I should listen more to Kid A definitely, but nothing they've done post OK Computer has really grabbed me.


"What sounds to you like a big load of trashy noise, is in fact the brilliant music of a genius"
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  20:19:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The London Philharmonic: overrated boy band.
Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops: overrated boy band.
The Fall: overrated boy band.
The Dead Kennedys: overrated boy band.




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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  20:57:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK COMPUTER: one of the best albums of the 90's


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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2005 :  04:35:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dont like Yorke's face.
He is skinny and looks like an ill bird.
They allways seem to complain.
Have they already did a happy song?



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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2005 :  06:22:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did I ever tell you my Radiohead story???

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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2005 :  06:27:53  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

We're cool, Apl, we're cool!

Boy band. I was thinking about the ultimate overrated boy band,
another English boy combo, a little outfit called The Beatles.

*ducks to avoid rotten fruit being tossed in her direction*


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Kiki, you know i love you - but this is an insane statement. get some nice soup, warm up, put on Help! or the White Album and really reconsider what you just said.

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