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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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 Posted - 01/28/2005 : 23:43:15
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political discussions and beautiful women. i love this forum.
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 01/29/2005 : 08:28:20
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speedy, there I am in full jerk mode and you go being civil and complimentary. You, and COF, must actually be fundamentally decent human beings. Pretty creepy.
I guess you know I don't buy into the "simply one of the two children" analogy, and even if I did that I'd say that's just the way it is, that there isn't any teacher in this case, and that it's usually the bigger, stronger, or smarter kid that wins, not the one who happens to have right or justice on his side.
Now, COF, can I get dispensation to change my user name to "machiavelli" or "thrasymachus"? |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 09:16:17
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Well, don't go lumping me in there, I can be a jerk at times. :)
Given my machiavellian leanings, though, I can't change your name if only because I may someday require it for my purposes. I'll look into thrasymachus though. :)
I think we have a similar understanding of the world in most cases (I don't necessarily take social Darwinism quite so far as you perhaps), but like Mike said, a different way of approaching the problems. It's great that we can disagree civilly and discuss intellectually, as opposed to flinging accusations and whatnot around. Though as you say, it's creepy in a way because it reminds me that there is no one right answer or certainly not one that can be proven one way or the other.
 "Join the Cult of Frank 2.0 / And you'll be enlightened (free for 1.x members)" |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 13:22:55
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Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson
We don't have discussions in the beautiful women thread...and she looks like a spider.
A closed head-injured spider.
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That's funny, because whenever I look at the eyes of Hillary Clinton or Katie Couric I see an internally dead human being. And the voices of both match the eyes. They drone like automata, like empty, dessicated husks.
I think I'd rather be an automaton than a spider. Well, unless you're talking about Spider-Man, 'cause he's cool.
As for social Darwinism, it would be awfully self-defeating for me to support that. In a system where the physically strong, cunning, witty, rich, and/or good-looking win out, I would stand no chance. I comfort myself with the thought that many social Darwinists wouldn't last much longer than I would.
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3759 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 13:25:27
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She's no Sasquatch.
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2005 : 11:01:39
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Thank you very much everyone. You have made me feel a little less frustrated.
"Anything that systematic would get you hated."
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
All of a sudden my water broke!
"There was a man Who made a boat To sail away And it sank.". |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2005 : 12:08:02
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Originally posted by VoVat
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As for social Darwinism, it would be awfully self-defeating for me to support that. In a system where the physically strong, cunning, witty, rich, and/or good-looking win out, I would stand no chance. I comfort myself with the thought that many social Darwinists wouldn't last much longer than I would.
"Reunion? Shit union!"
Fly under the radar babeeeeee.
And as for myself I don't know how much of those traits I possess,
but I am extremetly fertile so.....
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2005 : 16:27:43
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But only the people with those traits should reproduce, right?
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2005 : 17:13:04
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| VoVat, I assume you're being humorous, per usual, but I did want to say that I don't regard it as a matter of "should", with all the entailed moral imperative baggage. To me it's more a matter of those who reproduce put their offspring at the mercy of the forces of nature. As for myself, I hardly consider myself that fit, either physically or, even more so, psychologically, and have in fact opted out of the DNA replication game. I've had my chance to reproduce and it scared the hell out of me. I'm really not up for it. Too selfish. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2005 : 17:33:17
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I hoped everyone would understand I wasn't being serious with that suggestion. I will say that I don't want to have kids, but I guess I could always change my mind someday. I'll also say that I have no interest in keeping the human race intact. Mind you, I think people who are alive today should be kept alive as long as possible (unless they don't deserve it), and I would never think of denying anyone the right to have children. It's just that, if I were somehow able to see a vision of 1000 years in the future and there were no more humans, I wouldn't be upset by that. I get the feeling that a lot of people would.
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