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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  07:27:04  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My sister bought this movie and I'd heard some good and some bad things. So I watched it last night.

Without betraying my own feelings on the movie, was there anyone out there that didn't think it was worthy of being highly placed on a list of 2004's worst movies?


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Broken Face
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  07:35:07  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i really enjoyed it - i thought it was goofy as hell, but a lot of fun and really funny...and i'll be damned if someone in my group of friends doesn't say 'GOSH' every 2 seconds

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Carolynanna
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  09:08:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it was really funny.
I hear ya Brian, my son now says gosh every 2 seconds and
you're acting like a frickin idiot. (not to me mind you;)

The actor was on Mad TV on Saturday night as well.


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soundofataris
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  09:13:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some really funny stuff, but overall over-rated.

For me, the best scene was the big dance number during the election speech. It had enough energy to make me forget that I had been a little bored with the movie before that.

Good, but not great.

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  09:26:57  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hmm, I guess I'm mostly alone then. I found the movie dull, I hated ALL the characters except maybe Pedro who I just had no reason to like but didn't dislike. The dance number was entertaining, but the rest of the movie at best made me smirk/smile and generally found me quite bored. I didn't find anything amusing about a catch phrase repeated ad nauseum, I guess, nor about the delivery of the said catch phrases. But to each his own.

I think I laughed out loud twice during the movie.

I wanted it to be funny, I did, but I just found it utterly devoid of comedy or interest. And I usually find most things funny.


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apl4eris
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  09:31:01  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
NP was the second time we got suckered into renting an ass-horrible movie, sorry to say. The first was "Better Luck Tomorrow". We heard great reviews about both, from people and places we thought we could trust more than the mainstream press, especially about NP. Both were produced by MTV, and showed it.

What bothered me most about NP was that it revelled in depicting "geeks" as inbred morons, while couching it as kitschy laugh-at-ourselves humor. There were a few moments of situational comedy, but they were so self-concious they fell flat after the initial automatic-response. ...like the guy shooting the cow in front of the school bus. HA! zzzzzzzzzzzz

Napoleon Dynamite = MTV trying to get "geek cred" by playing frat-boy pranks on "geeks" while they're sleeping and making them laugh at themselves when they wake up so they can finally be accepted.


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Skatealex1
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  09:33:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didnt find it so funny but it was ok

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Carolynanna
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Canada
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  10:10:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Being as out of the loop as I am,
I didn't hear much about it before it came out, maybe that makes a difference.

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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  10:14:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i wasn't aware that it was getting panned. it seems to be a critics favorite.

i thought it was a fun film, and impressive for a first-time filmmaker who had hardly any money to make it. but i didn't think it was as good as some people thought it was..




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apl4eris
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:11:01  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just realized I sound all pissed off about the movie, that's funny. I'm not just so ya know. It just sucked.


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:11:22  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by apl4eris

NP was the second time we got suckered into renting an ass-horrible movie, sorry to say. The first was "Better Luck Tomorrow". We heard great reviews about both, from people and places we thought we could trust more than the mainstream press, especially about NP. Both were produced by MTV, and showed it.

What bothered me most about NP was that it revelled in depicting "geeks" as inbred morons, while couching it as kitschy laugh-at-ourselves humor. There were a few moments of situational comedy, but they were so self-concious they fell flat after the initial automatic-response. ...like the guy shooting the cow in front of the school bus. HA! zzzzzzzzzzzz

Napoleon Dynamite = MTV trying to get "geek cred" by playing frat-boy pranks on "geeks" while they're sleeping and making them laugh at themselves when they wake up so they can finally be accepted.


Lon the Fisherman has wooden legs, but real feet.



Yes! Thank-you, Jen. You summed it up exactly for me.


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floop
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:29:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i didn't really see it the same way. i thought it was just trying too hard to be quirky and have odd characters, at the expense of the film. also, a little too Wes Anderson deriviative.

that said, it was refreshing to watch. when so many films lack any originality, it's nice to see someone at least trying to do something different. not to mention on a shoestring budget.

and you gotta love Pedro, c'mon!


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apl4eris
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:40:36  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, Pedro did have some good lines.

"Summer Wheatly? How the heck are you gonna do that?
Pedro: Build her a cake or something."

floop, maybe that's why I didn't like it very much. Besides it getting talked up so much it could never live up to the hype, I haven't enjoyed any Wes Anderson movies, not after "Bottle Rocket". Can't figure what I'm missing there, I'm just a weirdo I guess. I think Schizopolis did the Wes Anderson thing better than he ever has. Nose army.


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floop
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:46:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm a Wes fan so i don't know what to say.. RUSHMORE is one of my favorite films of all time. though he hasn't topped that since.

i don't see the SCHIZOPOLIS comparison. i thought that was an interesting film, but got tiresome. i respect for Stephen Soderberg for making it. to me SCHIZOPOLIS was doing something completely different than Wes Anderson


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apl4eris
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:47:51  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hmm, you're probably right, because I obviously don't get Anderson. I wish I did. Maybe a new thread is spawning.


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floop
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:52:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i was surprised to see no discussion about LIFE AQUATIC


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Jose Jones
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:55:05  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
not to get too off topic, but soderberg is a god among men.

well, he's a damn fine filmmaker, at least. has anyone seen the limey? he's an editing genius.

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floop
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  11:59:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i agree jose. though i'm not as thrilled with his mainstream efforts lately. . what's cool about him is that, even though he makes a film like OCEANS 12, next time around he'll make some small, experimental personal film. he does both.

i actually met his editor once, who worked on the THE LIMEY (very cute by the way). THE LIMEY is one film that truly does use editing in some creative ways. in a very self-conscious way. . i love that film


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Jose Jones
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  12:08:25  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
even with soderberg's mainstream films, they're a joy to look at. his touch and catherine zeta-jones made ocean's 12 very nice to watch.

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  12:13:07  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I really enjoy Wes Anderson's stuff too (I did enjoy Life Aquatic, just not as much as earlier stuff by his - I felt like he maybe lost some crucial character development time for gags or style).

The line Jen quoted from Pedro was one of the two lines I laughed out loud at.

I agree also with Jose, Ocean's 12 was a surprising treat. Not great, but I was expecting it to be awful and it was actually pretty enjoyable. I may have to watch Ocean's 11 again sometime when it's not 4 AM and I fall asleep through the middle.


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Sir Rockabye
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  12:56:18  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've seen Napoleon on two seperate occasions. The first time was in a theater full of friends of mine, last summer. The second time I saw it was by myself at home last week. The first time viewing it, I thought it was genius, hysterical. The second time, I was very disapointed. I believe that when watching a film like Napoleon, you have to be in the right envirnoment to enjoy yourself. The whole film is goofy, as Brian said, and people are less likely to act goofy (or perhaphs laugh at goofy characters) when they are by themselves, or just in the wrong place. Another thing is that when I saw it, I hadn't heard any of the hype, and was expecting a poor film. By being surprised by its entertainment, Napoloen was able to impress me more. Perhaps had I heard its praises prior to viewing, I would have expected more. By entering the theater with low expectations, I was more willing to grant the film a positive review.

As far as Wes goes, I'm a big fan, although not to the extent that some are. I'd have to say that Rushmore tops my list of Anderson films, followed by TRT.


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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  13:05:10  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Royal Tenebaums is by far my favorite Wes Anderson film, but i love all of them - i'd say it goes Royal-Rushmore-Bottle Rocket-Life Aquatic

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floop
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  13:07:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
did you know that BOTTLE ROCKET is on Martin Scorsese's list of "Top 10 Film Of The 90's"? no joke.


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Jose Jones
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  13:28:35  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
what else is on that list, floop?

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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  13:41:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i found it:

Martin Scorsese's Top 10


10.) Malcom X
9.) Fargo
8.) Crash
7.) Bottle Rocket
6.) Breaking the Waves
5.) Bad Lieutenant
4.) Eyes Wide Shut
3.) A Borrowed Life
2.) The Thin Red Line
1.) Horse Thief (late 1980’s)

http://www.amateurhometheater.com/Reviews%202/ebert-scorsesetopmovie1990.htm



i tried to watch THE HORSE THIEF and couldn't get through it.



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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  13:49:23  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've never seen Bottle Rocket, been meaning to for some time...


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shineoftheever
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  17:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think it gets funnier the more you watch it!

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shineoftheever
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  17:07:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but i'm canadian, and admittedly, i find everything hilarious, including weekend at bernies 2. this statement does not include all of pauly shore's stuff (but some! ;)).
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  17:11:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my last girlfriend and i watched Bottle Rocket shotly into our relationship. she didn't like it.

it goes without saying that we're no longer together


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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  19:30:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok just in case some antrhopologist ever digs up this forum in like 300 years, for the record Napolion Dynamite rocked.
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  19:38:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can understand why Napoleon's appeal may elude some. My suggestion is, watch it again. It's the goofiness that makes it funny.
I saw it four times in the theatre and now own it on video.


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  19:40:06  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, 'cause "antrhopologists" are really gonna' take the word of someone who can't spell the title of their job or the movie correctly.

Alright, I admit it, I'm just showboating for those anthropologists. Sorry, K! :)


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Daisy Girl
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  19:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well hopefully they will acknoledge how incredible-- we all here on this forum!!!
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  19:45:00  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Of course! That's why they'll be starting here.


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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  19:49:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can see it their report now-- Frank Black was a woshiped diety. The birth of his first born was unparalled. A certain Pixies Mania stuck in 2004. Curry, as well as beautiful men and women were revered my many.
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Visiting Sasquatch
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  20:03:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wes Anderson is a fan of the Pixies, or at least he listens to 'em in his car...

Also, Frank said he heard Eliott Smith's "Needle In the Hay" from the Royal Tenenbaum's soundtrack and it made him cry...

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