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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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 Posted - 01/16/2005 : 19:27:10
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I'm not really sure the forum HAS changed all that much. Granted, people come and go, but I think traffic is relatively constant. There's probably less on-topic discussion for the simple reason that it's been while since Frank has released anything. When the forum was first created, Black Letter Days and Devil's Workshop were new, and a lot of members hadn't had the chance to discuss Frank's earlier work, so there was a lot of talk about it. It was only about a year after that that Show Me Your Tears was released, and that spawned more discussion. The next big thing was the Pixies reunion, but even that is pretty much yesterday's news nowadays (although I'll admit that I very rarely read the Pixies Live or Pixies News sections of the forum). So much of what can be said has already been said. I would imagine Honeycomb will spark some new discussion, though. (Technically, it already has, but, not having heard a preview of the album, I always skip those threads.)
I didn't even start reading the General Chat until I'd already been here for a while, and it was even longer before I started posting here. I think I was afraid I would be ignored or insulted, but that really wasn't the case at all. I still feel like I'm in a minority here in some respects, but I have fun reading and posting, and isn't that what's truly important?
As for the nonsense aspect, I'm all for tangents and irrelevant stuff. I think part of the fun here is seeing how a topic will develop. There are some topics that I'll only read for the tangents, because I'm not interested in the official subject. I can see how it would be annoying to start a thread about something you're really interested in and have it degenerate into nonsense, but I also think that's probably preferable to having the thread die out totally. And yes, there are some threads that become chatty, but there are different kinds of chattiness. I think it's only really a problem when it gets to be an exclusive conversation between two or three people, and even then, I'll usually just skip the thread.
Overall, I think this forum has done a good job of remaining active throughout its life.
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KOK, I heard that you got kicked off the Celine Dion forum
for posting too many sasquatch-related photos. Is that true?
No, those were pictures of Celine's husband.
<rimshot>
Thank you. I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waiter.
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3759 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2005 : 19:33:20
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Wow! That's almost exactly what I was going to post when I first saw that quote captioned in your post.
"Yes, but that's only because I was posting them as her husband." ba -ding- bang.
Vovat, you must be some form of comedic super genius.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2005 : 20:39:26
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Posted - 01/17/2005 : 00:22:17
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I think that Dean said almost all of it, When I found the FB.net I started readind almost everything about Frank Black, then sometimes I gave a look at the General chat, and so on...What I find really interesting is that as Tony said, if it wasn't for this I wouldn't have meet in person one very nice american guy and a sweet english girl, I think I found here some very nice people and news about music and new bands. Another interesting point is what Benji started, the compilation swap game, another great experience that if it wasn't here I don't think I would ever do it. I got to know some bands that I didn't knew that they existed at all...
I used to hate the internet, and now here I am!
also think as BLT said that the reunion is going to expose this forum a lot, everybody knows the Pixies now, and some people won't come here for Frank's work now, but for what he did with the Pixies, but maybe that's a beggining for some people get to know his solo work that most of the times was ignored!
Purify the colors, purify my mind,
and spread the ashes of the colors
over this heart of mine!
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 01/17/2005 : 04:46:27
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I'm depressed! First I finished Craig Thompson's "Blankets" which was awfully sad, and now this thread that makes me remember all the cool guys I miss... I have to go back to the thread where the girls said I'm cute right now.
Denis
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 06:55:34
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Originally posted by Daisy Girl
Sounds like the survey idea isn't taking hold. But it's a great way to really to quantify what are very subjective issues, and get actionable ways to move forward. Hopefully will tend to be more open in a survey than they would on a forum. It's really simple and might give us insight into important issues as to why people leave.
I welcome you starmekitten for stepping while beeing so new to improve things. Welcome to the forum, nice meeting you. I think you are an example of what can be done to improve things.
Hopefully we can all think about our concerns and empower ourselves and others to improve this fourm. I think talking here is a good and healthy start.
Maybe some of the vetrans can also give us more concrete examples of what has changed and what hasn't. Ramona, you have given us a good start. Also give us concrte steps of improving the forum. This will help us get a better understanding of where your coming from as well as what can be done to make things better. For example, what do you mean by exciting threads? Ramona, why did your dear friends leave? What can be done to get them back?
I don't think it is really a matter of IMPROVING the forum, like someone said (Brian? Jim?) it goes through peaks and valleys and that is just the way it is. The forum has gotten more crowded and more popular (which I am happy about in most ways) and that contributes to all the extra STUFF I mentioned. I don't think my lovely friends left for any specific reasons, although I know some of them feel overwhealmed when they come in and see SO MUCH, so then they just leave without trying to get past the tip of the iceberg.
It's like a party, people come in and people leave. Some people stay too long, some people leave after 15 minutes. Then there are the old drunks like me - standing in the corner, hoping someone will turn on some dancing music.
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Hold your mistake up,
Before they turn the summer into dust
If the children don't grow up -
Our bodies get bigger, but our hearts get torn up...
With my lightning bolts a glowin'
I can see where I am going.
Better look out below!
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 07:07:47
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I'm not listening to dancing music at all right now... It's Willie Nelson's Red Headed Stranger. And it's not helping me actually.
Denis
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 11:18:41
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Denis, it was me in the baby thread who said you looked cute.
Sorry to interrupt the flow but I can't have Denis listening to Willie Nelson.
Back on topic!
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 13:04:02
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I remember I stumbled onto this forum purely by accident. It's the first forum I've ever posted on. And I've been posting here for about 2 years.
I remember when I first started posting I decided to open up with a thread, which was quickly disregarded and made to look like a dumb topic by...the un-namable un-named. I kinda discouraged me from posting anymore of my opinions...but I slowly got over that. I remember Carolynanna made me feel really comfortable (It sounds like i'm describing my "first time"...you know what I mean) by not only giving me a bit of confidence when it comes to my replies, also by replying to my craptastic topics. One thing that does kinda get my goat it the people who seem to think that all of the conversations should be about Frank and Frank-related topics exclusively. I mean yes of course he is a fascinating character as well as an ultra-talented, ultra-cool and more deserving of infinite conversations than most other people(well I don't really need to say much more that isn't already clear) but it's not only the love of Frank that brought me here, but also knowing that there were other people out there that I could share common interests with, as well as differences. yes... I'm sure I've blathered on there ... that's just my two cents.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 13:22:35
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Does that mean that noone is intimidated by me?
I can be scary!
Okay then, at least can I have the nickname of friendliest forum member? 
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 13:28:34
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It's your charisma and beauty that's intimidating.
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 14:15:25
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Well garsh  , thank you.
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 18:49:55
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Originally posted by ramona
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Originally posted by Daisy Girl
Sounds like the survey idea isn't taking hold. But it's a great way to really to quantify what are very subjective issues, and get actionable ways to move forward. Hopefully will tend to be more open in a survey than they would on a forum. It's really simple and might give us insight into important issues as to why people leave.
I welcome you starmekitten for stepping while beeing so new to improve things. Welcome to the forum, nice meeting you. I think you are an example of what can be done to improve things.
Hopefully we can all think about our concerns and empower ourselves and others to improve this fourm. I think talking here is a good and healthy start.
Maybe some of the vetrans can also give us more concrete examples of what has changed and what hasn't. Ramona, you have given us a good start. Also give us concrte steps of improving the forum. This will help us get a better understanding of where your coming from as well as what can be done to make things better. For example, what do you mean by exciting threads? Ramona, why did your dear friends leave? What can be done to get them back?
I don't think it is really a matter of IMPROVING the forum, like someone said (Brian? Jim?) it goes through peaks and valleys and that is just the way it is. The forum has gotten more crowded and more popular (which I am happy about in most ways) and that contributes to all the extra STUFF I mentioned. I don't think my lovely friends left for any specific reasons, although I know some of them feel overwhealmed when they come in and see SO MUCH, so then they just leave without trying to get past the tip of the iceberg.
It's like a party, people come in and people leave. Some people stay too long, some people leave after 15 minutes. Then there are the old drunks like me - standing in the corner, hoping someone will turn on some dancing music.
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Hold your mistake up,
Before they turn the summer into dust
If the children don't grow up -
Our bodies get bigger, but our hearts get torn up...
With my lightning bolts a glowin'
I can see where I am going.
Better look out below!
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http://prettycrabby.com
Just curious how many topics on average the forum saw in General Chat and other parts of the forum?
Well, I guess what I am getting at is what are some steps that you would suggest to make you and the other "old" timers happy.
I can think of maybe starting a quota on the posts/topics started per day, but I really don't think that would be effective. Maybe we could start a chatroom of all old-timers and no access to new timers.
If you or anyone else has ideas that's great.
Just from reading everyone's comments does seem like this is an issue of democracy, with many points of views, intersts and agendas to managed for the best interest of the whole. I am also wondering if it is a case of a rivalry due to pre-Pixies reunion members and post-reunion members? |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2005 : 19:32:16
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I don't give a crap about newbies versus old-timers. That's lame. And I'm not close enough to anyone here to be in a clique.
The problem is that my outlook as a Frank Black fan is much less optimistic than it was a year ago. I'm tired of the Pixies because I've heard most of the songs too many times over the past 15 years. Kinda like so many "new" threads are a rehash of what was discussed one or two years ago. Maybe it will be different when Frank puts out an album of new material. (Is Honeycomb ever going to be released?) |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 07:37:43
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I think Honeycomb was supposed to be released in March. Is that not true anymore?
If I ever felt cliquey at all it was probably in the HH and all those people are gone now, so I don't have that feeling anymore. If anything, I feel out of the loop about most things in General Chat.
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Hold your mistake up,
Before they turn the summer into dust
If the children don't grow up -
Our bodies get bigger, but our hearts get torn up...
With my lightning bolts a glowin'
I can see where I am going.
Better look out below!
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http://prettycrabby.com |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
1972 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 08:32:17
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I am completely full of shit, have nothing valuable to offer any conversation and generally contribute to an overall 'lowering of standards' here on the forum, as in the rest of my social life.
I also am not a huge FB fan, but am growing.
I'm hanging around trying to learn how to be cool and different like everybody else.
*downs glass of bleach*
I'm also a newbie and always will be.
Neither snow nor rain nor gloom of night shall
stay these couriers from the swift completion
of their appointed rounds
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 10:19:14
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That's what makes you special.
Your bleach ingesting habits.
Hot.
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 12:17:58
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ksr, you crack me up.
you're alright, for a newbie
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 12:33:47
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Resolved: Anybody with fewer than 5,000 posts is a newbie.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 12:35:49
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quote:
Originally posted by kathryn
Resolved: Anybody with fewer than 5,000 posts is a newbie.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
agreed
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 12:59:07
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Resolved: Anybody going off topic has to cook and mail (in a safe
container that will retain both heat and freshness) quesadillas
to the person who began said thread that went off topic.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 13:03:12
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you just went off topic. does this mean you'll be mailing quesadillas?
(i guess, in this case, to yourself)
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 13:09:52
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Just shut up and BOTH of you send me Quesadillas smothered in Vermont maple syrup.
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 13:19:40
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Alicia!
How could you...
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 13:37:57
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| I don't know how the forum has changed, but it sure has changed - there are more and more topics I don't even understand. My question is, am I getting more and more stupid, or are you all getting more and more intelligent :) |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 14:46:56
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Froggie, I know for certain that I am only getting stupider. I can't speak for
anybody else.
Gotta go. I'm waiting for a FedEx overnight package from Cali.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 14:52:15
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Cali. i don't think so.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 14:56:25
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I love LL Cool J.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 14:59:21
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you and me both
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 01/18/2005 : 15:02:28
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Didn't someone go "back to Cali" at some point in the 80's?
Was that LL? |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 15:04:08
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i think that was Kathryn
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 15:11:30
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Hey I like LL Cool J before that, I'm Bad, that was cool.
Har har, makes me remember junior high with I Need Love.
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 01/18/2005 : 15:33:57
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oh dear.
Not there.
You can't go there.
Mama said knock you out. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 15:43:23
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That was such a great video!
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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