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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 12/30/2004 : 13:45:37
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5157 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 13:49:35
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i just bought 3 records at a thrift store:
The Raspberries S/T release
Walter Carlos and the Well-Tempered Synthesizer
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"Provocative Percussion"
i hope to get some samples from the later 2
-B-B-B-Brian
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 12/30/2004 : 14:01:22
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vinyl is classic. I am so happy it's still around.  |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 14:34:53
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| I still love my 1000+ albums but they're tough to play in the car. |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 14:44:23
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w'oh BLT, now that's a collection.
I just got few FB singles, all of Pixies catalogue and Beatles too. My dad gave me the Beatles, I'll give my child the Pixies when the time comes. I have 2 copies of CoP, one for her and one for me.
sorry jason. Right?
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 16:02:55
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Hopefully those Pixies vinyl reissues from last year aren't sold out everywhere yet. I still haven't gotten them.
I used to have the Beatles CDs, but I sold them years ago. Now, little by little, I'm getting all the Beatles stuff back on vinyl. I'm buying the old American releases that most purists seem to hate, like '65 and Yesterday and Today. I think they're cool, though. |
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
474 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 16:56:38
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I love the sound of vinyl over cd but is sucks having to pay $50+ dollars to replace the needle and don't even get me started on calibrating. I have a nice dual player and it kicks ass.
I bought a few dvd audio disks recently and am super impressed. Vinyl lovers rejoice, it has the warmth and frequency range of vinyl without the bullshit. All of us should make a point to buy stuff on dvd audio instead of vinyl if it comes out on the format. Keeping it alive should be everyone's top priority.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 12/30/2004 : 17:08:34
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| wondering what people make of the pixies vinyls compared to the CDs. i'm aware that some albums sound a lot better on vinyl, some probably better on CD, and some pretty samey. recently got hold of a record player so i could play my brothers old doolittle and bossanova records. i didn't listen very carefully, but to me they sound more or less the same, but with added bass (kick drum sounds a lot clearer for example). |
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
474 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 17:49:46
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the analog versions are far superior, your turntable might be crappy, I guess it depends the way you listen to music
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 18:11:03
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so is can theer be a large difference in sound quality amoungst different players? i knwo for a fact the one i'm using is rubbish, my dad bought it because his old one broke ages ago, and he has recently decided to put a few of his vinyls on to CD.
what's so superior about the vinyl versions then? |
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 19:38:56
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I'm a vinyl fanatic. I have about 200 or so vinyl lps in my collection, and I try to get all my new albums on vinyl if it's available. Steve, I'm not much of an audiophile, so I can't really answer your question too thoroughly, but I can tell you that some of the key factors as far as sound quality goes are the needles and (of course) your stereo system. Cleaning your records properly is another major (and very expensive) factor. I've heard that the best record-cleaner to get is by far the disc doctor (http://discdoc.com/). I haven't been able to purchase this because it's so expensive (about $80 for the full package), but supposedly just a once in a lifetime cleaning with this fluid, even if the record is brand new, will make your records come alive and sound far better than they did before. So I hope to purchase that some day. The good thing about it is that since you only have to clean each record one time, the fluid should last a very long time. Also, a lot of people will tell you to get the big expensive professional vaccum cleaning systems, but from what I've heard from people who have used those as well as the disc doctor, the disc doctor itself is much more effective. Also, and I do own one of these, I would highly reccomend getting an Audioquest carbon fiber brush (about $16) to clean your records with before each time you play them. It can be a pain in the ass cleaning the records every single time, but this will ensure that your record and stylus stays clean.
As far as why vinyl sounds better than CD's, I don't know all of the technical aspects, but it has something to do with analog being able to produce higher frequencies or something like that. I'm sure somebody else can answer that.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 19:40:51
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Oh, and with that detailed post that I just made, if it looks like I know what I'm talking about and am an expert on the subject, I'm NOT!
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
474 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 19:44:32
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I'm drunk so I can't be too scientific about this. Basically, when they made cd's they way they cut out the noise is by cutting out the highest and lowest frequencies that are audible by the human ear. that's all fine and dandy but unfortunately those frequencies also carry ambient noise that make a big part of why albums sound good. for the pedestrian music lstener who is satisifed with mp3 this doesn't make a difference but for us nerds the difference is incredible. And yes, different turntables do make a difference. The noise of the mechanism, the quality of the stylus make a tremendous difference.
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 12/31/2004 : 10:14:58
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I was thinking about this the other day. I probably took it from The Neverending Story. Or maybe it's just because I'm a computer nerd.
I don't know about the Audio CD format (or MP3, WAV, OGG or whatever), but as it's digital data storage, if you take a CD from the beginning and follow the long bit spiral path, you'll end up with a number. A fucking huge number, but a number after all.
So, if the above lines are true, your favourite record (I don't care if it's the "White Album", "Teenager of the Year" or "Oops!...I Did It Again") is only a long random number. Scary, isn't it?
It doesn't happen with vinyl, because every single copy and every single listen is different. I think is a good reason to prefer vinyl over digital formats.
Do you know what I mean?
PS: [NOTE TO SELF] Go out and get a life!
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2005 : 14:17:09
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I nearly bought a limited pressing of Doolittle (only 1500 made) in Nottingham on Thursday. Maybe I should have.
Help me! He keeps making me post!
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 01/02/2005 : 08:52:28
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I love vinyl, i love the sound, I think it sounds so much warmer, and theres something about it that makes you think alot of work has gone in to it, unlike with many cds.
Now I do as I please and lie through my teeth. Someone might get hurt but it won't be me. I should probably feel cheap but I just feel free and a little bit empty. No it isn't so hard to get close to me. There will be no arguments. We will always agree. And I will try and be kind when I ask you to leave. We will both take it easy. But if you stay too long inside my memory, I will trap you in a song tied to a melody and I will keep you there so you can't bother me. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2005 : 08:58:49
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2005 : 17:32:40
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tiredeyes
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 01/08/2005 : 10:29:00
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
474 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2005 : 16:49:26
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Originally posted by tiredeyes
vinyl still sounds the best, plus the artwork and liner notes are more enjoyable. if you're ever in rockville md. you gotta check out joe's record paradise.
Before DVD-Audio and SACD I would have agreed with you that vinyl is the best. Listen to an album in one of those formats though and you'll see that vinyl has been finally overthrown.
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dmarkcox
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 01/08/2005 : 18:41:49
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Great Vinyl Dinosaur Jr, Sonic Youth, and PURPLE!
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2006 : 19:28:23
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I can't believe I didn't post here before.
Yes, vinyl rules.
Does anyone mind me posting in old threads? |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 11/03/2006 : 19:50:19
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| I hate looking at old posts of mine where I just go on and on and on way too fucking long. Yeesh, get to the point already, Jason circa 2004! |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2006 : 06:47:21
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My flatmate and I are finally turning our hand to DJ'ing with vinyl.
Becomes an expensive hobby very quickly.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
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Posted - 11/04/2006 : 07:53:10
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I love my record player and the little record collection that goes with it. Sadly I don't use it that much any more, it's more listening to music via computer or iPod nowadays for me. But I still like to come back to vinyl every now and then.
And to dig for gems at fleemarkets and second hand record shops. Just bought Doolittle the other week. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 11/04/2006 : 13:36:56
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There's and interview with Beck in the new issue of Record Collector. He's a firm supporter of vinyl, it seems. His new single Cellphone's Dead is actually a vinyl-only release!
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/04/2006 : 15:20:57
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I bought a cracking old 70s record player a couple of months ago. I might post a picture of it (these topics do lack sufficient pictures nowadays), it looks great. I used to use a cumbersome stereo seperates system but got fed up with it; the record player always seemed like something the makers just felt like sticking on top without spending much time thinking about it. The sound was alright, but my new old one is better- I run it through a shiny old 70s amplifier too, which I have a feeling might be a tube amp, but I've not bothered checking. It all sounds very nice.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 11/05/2006 : 00:16:34
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70s stereo recievers and turntables are the greatest. Not only do they LOOK great, but they sound amazing and can be had at a fraction of the price of a decent new stereo. I have two 70s-made stereos and I love them. They're also a great conversation piece. Most people today, that I know at least, don't even HAVE real stereos and if they do they're the usual black plastic boxes. A vintage stereo, made of metal and wood, with the silver finish, and all the little lights looks pretty exotic to most people now. I know I find them exotic.
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1158 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2006 : 09:12:25
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Did anyone else living in the New York area have a chance to check out the annual WFMU record fair this weekend? I went yesterday, and had a great time. It was a bit overwhelming, I don't think I've ever seen so many collectors or vendors in one spot before. Although there was a ton to choose from, I unfortunately didn't have much cash. Ended up coming home with only two records. If you get the chance, check it out while its still in town.
http://www.wfmu.org/recfair/
You run all kinds of red lights except the ones on the street.
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 11/05/2006 : 09:46:57
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I've been treading lightly into the world of vinyl collecting, haven't bought anything in a couple of months now. I'm not too bothered about actually playing my records - I have them on mp3 or cd in any case but seeing that old 70's record playing has me thinking it won't be a bad investment. A couple of my friends have serious collections and I just see the money they pour into theirs and am terrified at the prospect of doing the same. 7"s are cute and cheaper, but nothing really beats a nice fat heavy piece of vinyl especially some of the stuff by smaller record labels, limited presses with beautiful artwork. Ooh and the coloured vinyl. Nevermind when it's a double album - maybe it's the kid in me. Double albums were always somehow cooler - I guess it's the more is more thing. Oh and then there's the geek thing with limited presses, test presses, rarity and all that.
Yeah, so in short to sumise I'm probably going to go spend some money now, or maybe I'll just go lie on the floor like a kid, listen to and look at all the inserts and the artwork on the bits that I do have. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 11/05/2006 : 15:03:29
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Mmm, coloured vinyl. I have a bright yellow Cheap Trick Live At Budokan, for some reason the simplicity appeals. Also, a Wildhearts TV Tan 7" in the guise of a pizza. Sweet.
 Numberwang? |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 11/05/2006 : 19:38:27
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My favorite colored vinyl might be the first pressing of Dave Mason's Alone Together LP.
It's a fairly common record, too. The only similarly splattery vinyl I've ever owned was an LP of demos and early recordings by The Gits. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2006 : 20:11:44
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While I'm posting pics, here's a photo of the most expensive turntable in the world. It's called the Transrotor Artus, made by a German company called Transrotor. It weights 485 lbs. (220 kg) and costs... $150,000 (118,000 Euros).
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2006 : 23:41:40
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 11/06/2006 : 07:21:15
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Originally posted by Jason
70s stereo recievers and turntables are the greatest. Not only do they LOOK great, but they sound amazing and can be had at a fraction of the price of a decent new stereo. I have two 70s-made stereos and I love them. They're also a great conversation piece. Most people today, that I know at least, don't even HAVE real stereos and if they do they're the usual black plastic boxes. A vintage stereo, made of metal and wood, with the silver finish, and all the little lights looks pretty exotic to most people now. I know I find them exotic.
That one looks quite like mine, but with more switches and dials. It has a wooden back too. The wooden back and the silver front are exquisite. Absolutely brilliant. The radio display has a yellowy backing light as well.
This is my record player:
(That's the Microphones' It Was Hot We Stayed in the Water playing. Lovely.)
All together the amplifier and record player cost me around £100, though I bought them seperately. The record player came with some slightly rubbish speakers but match it like a dream.
Incidentally, I've not been able to find out any information whatsoever about this record player. It's a 'Bush Scene One'. I've seen one that has the same internal design (turntable, switches, arm, etc), but only on a museum website. It can't be a particularly exciting player though, I'm sure, otherwise I probably would've had to paid much more for it.
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