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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
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 Posted - 12/07/2004 : 05:51:38
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Since this is a very cat friendly place (excluding cat hating Tre of course) - thought some of you might be able to offer some advice. At work we've adopted a stray cat and her kitten (they would have died in the freezing English/Arctic circle winter). They're both now much healthier, been defleaed etc the only problem is is that the kitten hates us (mother cat - Paris is cool and my new best friend), but no amount of me lying on the floor making cat noises/food bribery/expensive toy offering works with her daughter. I think it all stems from us setting up a cage trap to get her to the vets.
Any ideas would be most welcome.
I thought I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it was
just some b*stard with a torch, bringing me more work. |
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 05:58:03
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I don't hate them! I don't!
Frank Black ate my hamster |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 08:17:36
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Catnip my friend, get the little feline good and stoned.
Or... I dunno just ignore it. Cat's can be weird like that sometimes. I used to think my cat hated me until I'd wake up at 4 in the morning and find her curled up between my legs or beside my head.
Kittens give Morbo gas |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 09:48:16
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those street cats can be tough. it may warm up to you after a while.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 10:07:02
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floop speaks the truth. Our cat Alice was found in a Chicago alley dumpster. It took her years to acclimate to people, and now she's very demonstrative and extremely loving.
She can still go a bit feral when she's playing though, but that's part of her endearing personality. 
It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them.
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 10:14:04
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She loves John, the caretaker - it's just the rest of us she hates. I think she has a sugardaddy thing going with him.
I thought I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it was
just some b*stard with a torch, bringing me more work. |
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
2025 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 10:18:43
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Seriously, just pretend that you don't care. That's what I did, and now my cat runs up to the door when I come home.
Kittens give Morbo gas |
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
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Posted - 12/07/2004 : 14:32:07
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Some cats are more attracted to particular genders, like on of mine wont go near guys (well, she does a bit now, but few and far between).
One of mine is also a feral, shes a bit schizo, but shes warmed up in her old age. Just keep trying, work out when she wants to be left alone. ferals will usually come to you when they want to, rathe rthan the other way round.
Now I do as I please and lie through my teeth. Someone might get hurt but it won't be me. I should probably feel cheap but I just feel free and a little bit empty. No it isn't so hard to get close to me. There will be no arguments. We will always agree. And I will try and be kind when I ask you to leave. We will both take it easy. But if you stay too long inside my memory, I will trap you in a song tied to a melody and I will keep you there so you can't bother me. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 14:42:01
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quote:
Originally posted by apl4eris
floop speaks the truth.
can i quote you on that?
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
1972 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2004 : 15:21:47
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cats seem to want very few things.
I refute any allegation that they "love".
They want soft and warm.
They want fully of belly.
They want empty of shit.
They want to chase something but not catch it.
They want to chew something but not eat it.
They want to destroy only things you want to keep.
I still don't think they love. We do and we, thru transferance of some kind, project our love onto and into them, but I really don't think they love. They just want to be safe and warm and fed and to play. We, the humans, represent all these things, so the cat "likes" us.
I like cats ok, but they ain't foolin me.
I got their little kitty-cat numbers.
I'm onto their little games.
My cat begs from me while I'm making hamburgers, he gets a little chunk covered in ceyenne. He no longer begs when I'm cooking.
Surfer, I say leave it alone (maybe even let it spend a few above zero nights outside) and don't feed it for a while. It will warm up to you...you'll find it chewing on your toes at 4am in no time.
A whole god-damned nation of assholes driving automobiles, eating, having babies, doing everything in the worst way possible, like voting for the presidential candidate who reminded them most of themselves. |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2004 : 00:33:18
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I sincerely hope I am not at work at 4am in the morning!
I thought I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it was
just some b*stard with a torch, bringing me more work. |
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Posted - 12/08/2004 : 00:45:08
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Lazer pens are good, they chase that little red dot and yet never catch, hours of endless amusement, they love it!!
Frank Black ate my hamster |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 05:25:35
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
quote:
Originally posted by apl4eris
floop speaks the truth.
can i quote you on that?
hehe
I think cats can love KSR. Ours does. For example, she takes care of us when we are sick. Somehow she knows, and is very attentive and affectionate. There are other ways too.
chemical flood if we accept that emotions and thoughts are translated instantaneously into chemicals, we are shocked at the bathing process that flushes our insides and outsides - posing as needs and desires. in addition to the ordinary caffeine and nicotine fix, there is a specific chemical addiction for “I overate yesterday” “how can I win so-and-so’s attention?” “I remember when we blah blah blah” “I need to buy whatever for the apartment” etc. all this and we haven’t even opened our eyes. then it hits you, these aren’t the thoughts of someone who is free. |
Edited by - apl4eris on 12/09/2004 05:34:44 |
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
3575 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 05:58:28
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I agree my (dead) cat was my besyt friend - really. She knew if I was upset, even when i wasnt showing it or pretending not to be, she would, as apl said look after me when im ill, all sorts of things. they are very affectionate, but yet independent..thats all.
Now I do as I please and lie through my teeth. Someone might get hurt but it won't be me. I should probably feel cheap but I just feel free and a little bit empty. No it isn't so hard to get close to me. There will be no arguments. We will always agree. And I will try and be kind when I ask you to leave. We will both take it easy. But if you stay too long inside my memory, I will trap you in a song tied to a melody and I will keep you there so you can't bother me. |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 07:07:36
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Quick update - major progress with the fiesty little lady today - I am now her friend as long as I have string with her new favourite blue mouse attached to the end.
I thought I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it was
just some b*stard with a torch, bringing me more work. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 07:18:06
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Wonderful news. Congrats.
By the way, this is my absolute favorite cat toy company. I highly recommend the stuffed crackly catnip animals, if you can find them in your local grocery store/pet store. Their toys are amazing and very popular around the house. Even better than a paper bag!
http://www.fatcats.com/html_site/hhome.shtml
chemical flood if we accept that emotions and thoughts are translated instantaneously into chemicals, we are shocked at the bathing process that flushes our insides and outsides - posing as needs and desires. in addition to the ordinary caffeine and nicotine fix, there is a specific chemical addiction for “I overate yesterday” “how can I win so-and-so’s attention?” “I remember when we blah blah blah” “I need to buy whatever for the apartment” etc. all this and we haven’t even opened our eyes. then it hits you, these aren’t the thoughts of someone who is free. |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
1972 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 09:20:42
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I knew someone would counter and apl - I have huge, Mt McKinley sized piles of respect for you but....no. I just don't think so.
The cat that 'senses' when you are sick wants to play. They are physical animals. It wants you to get up and move so it can enjoy the side of its brain that turns on when something in its environment moves.
Its either that, or the cat is happy you are being still so it can get close to you and enjoy your warm softness.
Cats definitely know things. They are complex beings. They know patterns, learn things, have familiarity with other animals (inlcuding people), but I do not think they 'love'.
They want you, they need you, but there ain't now way they're ever gonna love you.
Now, don't be sad [don't beee saaad] cause two out of three ain't bad.
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 09:22:59
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I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <
4209 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 10:40:45
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massive progress - we've had some tickling action.
I thought I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it was
just some b*stard with a torch, bringing me more work. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 10:42:27
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i taught my cat how to bring me beers from the fridge when i'm sick
that's love
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 10:55:17
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
i taught my cat how to bring me beers from the fridge when i'm sick
that's love
Love is when you have to lie about your pets to make them seem worthwhile. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 10:56:03
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what has your bird done for you lately?
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 11:13:49
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
what has your bird done for you lately?
Don't change the subject. I don't lie about my birds abilities. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 11:15:12
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how could you lie? a bird has no abilities
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 11:49:58
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
how could you lie? a bird has no abilities
Whereas a cat can be placed under a tire to secure a car from rolling downhill. |
Edited by - BLT on 12/09/2004 11:50:13 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 14:53:14
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even dogs are better than birds. at least dogs do stuff. even if it's try to administer fellatio on you.
birds don't do anything
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 14:59:03
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
birds don't do anything
They talk, but that won't stop a car from rolling down the driveway. So cats win again. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:00:49
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i take that back, they make good skeet shooting targets.. if you're out of skeets
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:01:16
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
even dogs are better than birds. at least dogs do stuff. even if it's try to administer fellatio on you.
birds don't do anything
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
Some of them can talk! What more do want from them?
Best pet: fish, you can leave for the weekend and they'll still be there as happy as ever when you return. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:03:52
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quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Some of them can talk! What more do want from them?
an h.j. ?
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *
1972 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:04:07
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Provided the stupid f-ing cat didn't get in the bowl.
A whole god-damned nation of assholes driving automobiles, eating, having babies, doing everything in the worst way possible, like voting for the presidential candidate who reminded them most of themselves. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:22:06
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
quote:
Originally posted by darwin
Some of them can talk! What more do want from them?
an h.j. ?
Is it safe for me to ask what exactly your talented cat is doing for you? Is it legal in California? |
Edited by - darwin on 12/09/2004 15:25:04 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:35:48
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allz i was saying was. for a bird to be considered better than a dog, it's going to have to do more things than a dog can do
neither species can retreive beer from the fridge, like my cat
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5456 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:40:33
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| hj>bj ?? (to each his own) |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:44:22
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no, bj is definitely preferable to an hj. you said that birds can talk. talking + hj = more talents than dog (bjs only)
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:52:17
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I see:
talking + hjbird > bjdog
I'm glad we cleared that up. |
Edited by - darwin on 12/09/2004 15:53:07 |
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