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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 11/13/2004 :  15:12:17  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I work in a part of the office with a bunch of women and one gay man. Not to exacerbate any stereotypes, but they do like a good gossip.

I have a secret to keep from them, and I absolutely have to keep it which will involve lying, which I don't like to do. In this context, its a big ol' secret.

Any hints on being subtle? Cos I ain't no good at it...


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LBF1976
= Cult of Ray =

269 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  15:28:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How To Spot a Liar:

1. No eye contact. His eyes will look away. If the room has a means of egress - that's where they'll look.
2. Crossing of arms and/or legs (a protective instinct).
3. The pupils of the eyes will narrow. Lying is stressful.
4. Hands on the face, especially the mouth. They are "covering" the lie.
5. Talking fast. A liar wants to get it over with.
6. Sometimes the head will nod a "no" when answering a "yes" question or visa versa. This is a subconscious movement.
7. Mispronouncing the words or mumbling. A liar kinda thinks he is not lying to like him so you will believe him when he pronounces words incorrectly or mumbles.
8. Overstated friendliness/laughing. He wants you to believe and he wants you




what to do:
http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/lie/lie.html


Floops quesedillas zijn te vergelijken met het likken van fatsige Albert's aars nadat hij een fles laxeermiddel heeft leeggedronken.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  15:30:02  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Way to panic me...


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  15:37:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need more info in order to be able to give any sort of advice on this. Can you elaborate a bit. How much do you have to lie?


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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  15:48:23  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't know yet. No-one else knows that I have a secret, but the topic is one that raises itself reasonably regularly.
Also, my problem is that my estimation of a certain person involved has gone down a little, so I have to keep that on the hush-hush as well.

Obviously I can't give you too many details or I'd have failed already


"You ever seen a man say goodbye to a shoe?"
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  16:25:21  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
we don't count! we're a computer screen!

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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  17:19:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cheeseman you suck

at least tell us the secret you fucker

either way it's gonna get out.

what is it, you did it with the gay guy?

also that lying stuff is bullshit. those are signs of anxiety. PEOPLE CAN BE NERVOUS FOR ANY REASON, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE LYING.


Edited by - PixieSteve on 11/13/2004 17:19:27
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ProverbialCereal
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USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  18:45:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I notice I become nervous when I really am telling the truth but I think the receiving end might be speculating that I am lying.

It's the same way when I see a cop in public (like in a store) and I get nervous like I did something. It's as if his presence is convincing me that I am trying to steal something even though I clearly am not.

But since you really will be lying I guess you have to tell yourself "I am telling the truth, I am telling the truth." Eventually you'll forget you're lying.


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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  18:50:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Always wear long sleeves to cover your track marks.

Never bring your works to work. If you must, at the very least, keep it in the car.

Try to eat well and get some sun. When you're on a heroin binge, it's easy to neglect those things and you end up looking really bad and people start to wonder.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  18:52:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
whenever i tell the truth and the other person doesn;t believe me, i always haveah ard time keeping a straight face, and they think this means i'm lying. cunts.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  18:55:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stop talking to your co-workers. Conduct all communication through e-mail.

It's easy to lie through the internet. I do it all the time.
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n/a
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4894 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  19:27:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What a complicated web you weave. Why will it involve lying? just keep your mouth shut.


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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  20:51:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My inability to properly read a tread title has me a bit dissapointed that this isn't about Indiana Jones.

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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  02:42:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use an infallible method: I just try to convince myself that my lie is true. I've got an amazing imagination and I'm really weak distinguishing between reality and fantasy, so it works for me.


If you fall I will catch you, I'll be waiting...
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  03:09:53  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I thought this was about a Queens of the Stoneage-song

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
573 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  04:30:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe it is, Cheeseman could be the new bass player!
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n/a
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4109 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  04:50:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I´m always teklling my kids that they shouldn´t lie... but I think that if the lie is for a good reason and if the fact that you don´t lie will hurt somebody´s feelings, then you should lie and don´t feel bad about it!


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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <

4209 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  05:19:25  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I thought this was about a Queens of the Stoneage-song

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"



Thank you - thought I was the only one.



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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  06:24:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On a regular basis life and the demands of polite society necessitate that we engage in the fine art of lying.

I stil don't have a sense of what your lie involves so I can't say much beyond: quit freaking out about it and do it with a straight face.

It's no biggie. Who's gonna get hurt? Does someone life or limb stand to be harmed? Just do it and quit worrying about it.

On a daily basis I tell little white lies to get out of bullshit conversations with bullshit people or bullshit invitations to bullshit things.


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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  13:58:07  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks chaps. I think Tre's was the best advice actually, I'm going to just keep my trap shut if at all possible. We'll see how it goes.

(BTW, if any of you are interested, I just found out Nick Oliveri is supporting Mark Lanegan at most of his UK shows....)


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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  14:14:41  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i agree - unless its a lie that you have to refer to all the time, just don't mention it



-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  14:19:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LBF1976

How To Spot a Liar:

1. No eye contact. His eyes will look away. If the room has a means of egress - that's where they'll look.
2. Crossing of arms and/or legs (a protective instinct).
3. The pupils of the eyes will narrow. Lying is stressful.
4. Hands on the face, especially the mouth. They are "covering" the lie.
5. Talking fast. A liar wants to get it over with.
6. Sometimes the head will nod a "no" when answering a "yes" question or visa versa. This is a subconscious movement.
7. Mispronouncing the words or mumbling. A liar kinda thinks he is not lying to like him so you will believe him when he pronounces words incorrectly or mumbles.
8. Overstated friendliness/laughing. He wants you to believe and he wants you



9. Liars are often known to grow beards, as a way of "covering up" the truth.



ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 11/14/2004 :  14:20:00  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Also, there might be life and limb involved, if I tell...



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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  14:27:59  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Try telling yourself the false story so many times you believe it yourself, you'll be beyond lying. I can vouch for this one, I write for a living.

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Moving from the clown to the jester will mean moving from similar to same, from alike to identical, from comparable to analogous. Though applied differently, the colours used on one can be used on another, and a couple of changes of costume will rapidly transform the jester into a clown and the clown into a jester. Strictly speaking, they almost duplicate each other as regards clothes and function, the only difference between them, from a social point of view, is that clowns do not usually visit the palaces of kings.
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