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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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 Posted - 10/29/2004 : 12:08:33
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I just got frank black francis
and the demo of ohh my golly tottaly makes the demo disc
those old lyrics are killer
simply great
a lot easier in the ear,
if you know what I mean,
than the lyrics on Surfer Rosa
Does somebody know what they mean
Carlos Lopez around? (spannish alec eiffel guy)
he translated the Surfer Rosa lyrics...
some other spanish speaker?
I wonder why he re-wrote the lyrics
these seem better to me
maybe because they are so straightfoward
(straightfoward is a weird word to use, since
I don't know what they mean, but they seem
to rhyme more and the rhytm is better too, less words etc.)
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 10/29/2004 : 14:27:09
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i speak spanish...and trust me...I don't understand the sense of the lyrics.
Maybe frank put the lyrics only because they sounds good....but anyway... I love this song!!!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6030 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2004 : 02:10:09
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hey ccuadros,
But you know what the words are?
Or are they not real words?
I would even love to see the lyrics minus translation
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 05:31:25
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Originally posted by ccuadros
i speak spanish...and trust me...I don't understand the sense of the lyrics.
Maybe frank put the lyrics only because they sounds good....but anyway... I love this song!!!
Chau
I speak English and trust me, most Pixies lyrics make no sense to me either so I think you're onto something.
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 07:45:54
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I haven't heard the FBF version, but I guess ccuadros refers more to the nonsensical sentences and grammar mistakes than the sense of the whole song. It took me ages to discover he was singing in spanish!!!
Hopefully, he has improved it a lot in those years.
If I can find the song, I'll tell you.
"¡¡¡Bien!!!, dame el ritmo. Así es mejor" - Jonathan Richman |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 09:16:35
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cool, thanks whoreatthedoor
I hope you'll find the fbf version than
I'm sure you can find the cd in the shops
and on iTunes, that is avaible in Spain now,
it is in Holland since a couple of weeks so...
(btw, I find it really akward to say thank you whore at the door)
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 09:52:13
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I found out a downloadable version of it. Don't tell anybody. Thanks for the itunes thing, even when it comes too late for Bam Thwok. Listen that, Frank! I wanted to give you my dollar, but I couldn't!
I'm not sure if I'm going to buy FBF. I don't know if I'm that kind of fan.
Sorry, I've lost myself. About Oh my golly! It's tricky! I've got serious problems with two lines, specially the first one. I'm gonna try with a Sound Forge loop.
"¡¡¡Bien!!!, dame el ritmo. Así es mejor" - Jonathan Richman |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6030 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2004 : 10:33:37
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I hear:
Canto besago mango
that's what I hear, it's not spanish I know, but phonetical
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 10:50:09
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I hear: Canto a veces (Domingo???) which is spanish for sure. It makes sense with the other lines:
Tantas veces, tantas veces dice - Oh my Golly...
La vida total es una porquería - Oh my Golly...
Pero siempre dice - Oh my Golly...
Rosa.....
"¡¡¡Bien!!!, dame el ritmo. Así es mejor" - Jonathan Richman |
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pixie punk
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 10:56:26
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| Hello Bill I'm here! I must say that I was very surprised and thrilled to hear those early different lyrics.The main difference is that he sings "EL DICE,EL DICE,EL DICE TANTAS VECES OH MY GOLLY" which means "HE SAYS,HE SAYS,HE SAYS SO MANY TIMES OH MY GOLLY".He definetly says something about Mango(the fruit)I haven't sat down to try and decipher the rest.Considering the awful attempted translations that existed before I took the task of correcting and explaining most of the lyrics on Alec Eiffel,my versions have been adopted all over the world now and are at least 99%correct untill the day that Charles decides,if ever, to unveil the early lyrics in written form.Well that all for now amigos!!! |
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 10:56:44
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
I found out a downloadable version of it. Don't tell anybody. Thanks for the itunes thing, even when it comes too late for Bam Thwok. Listen that, Frank! I wanted to give you my dollar, but I couldn't!
I'm not sure if I'm going to buy FBF. I don't know if I'm that kind of fan.
Sorry, I've lost myself. About Oh my golly! It's tricky! I've got serious problems with two lines, specially the first one. I'm gonna try with a Sound Forge loop.
"¡¡¡Bien!!!, dame el ritmo. Así es mejor" - Jonathan Richman
Your not that kind of fan??? What does that means Xavier?
...The majority of people are just like, `Play the monkey song!' |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 11:50:26
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Definitely I can't hear that "EL DICE" or "MANGO" even when my lyrics haven't been adopted all over the world 
That kind of fan means that I'm not in the mood to pay for a demo taken years ago or for some remixes. But I'll buy Honeycomb the first day it appears. I'm that KIND of fan.
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 12:10:53
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I can´t understand it either,the first line you hear something like MANGO, but I don´t think it´s that.
Xavier, don´t be mad, just kidding with you. But you know, I´m that KIND of fan that buys everything that includes FRANK!
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 13:00:01
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I´ve listened several times and the only thing I know is that I´m going crazy...because I can only listen something like, "Canto passa com mango"on the first line. But that doesn´t make any sense!
...The majority of people are just like, `Play the monkey song!' |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 14:13:13
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 14:21:22
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Funny...but I don´t think so...I think that maybe Frank didn´t knew what he was saying!
...The majority of people are just like, `Play the monkey song!' |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 14:35:23
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I think the same. I feel that if you ask Charles today, he wouldn't know what the hell he was saying. Mmmmm... Let's try it!
Frank, in your infinite wisdom, enlighten us in this dark age.
Just a lame attempt. But, who knows?
"¡¡¡Bien!!!, dame el ritmo. Así es mejor" - Jonathan Richman |
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 15:32:52
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I´m going to ask him...i´ll let you know then...
...The majority of people are just like, `Play the monkey song!' |
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 17:25:27
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jejeje...funny..but i have to say that whoreatthedoor understood that i tried to communicate....
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 10/30/2004 : 17:31:07
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Hey Pixie Punk could you post the link of your translations?
Ok here is my stab at it... don't take this seriously...
Canto vas a casa con mango (or is it con migo),
Oh my golly
Tanto veces, tanto veces, dice
Oh my golly
La vida total (es?) un por queria
Oh my golly
Pero siempre a me dice
Oh my golly
la vida es un por querria
Trans...
I sing. You go home with a mango (or with me)
Oh my gollly
Many times, many times, you say (He/she says)
Oh my golly
But always to me you say (he/she says)
Oh my golly
life is for what you/i/he/she would like
I love this thread... i spent so much time in hs figuring out what frank was singing. I was so desparate that i brought it in to my spanish teacher freshman year and she just stood there. i think she was expceting miami sound machine or something like we had been listening to in class.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6030 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 00:44:09
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Maybe frank rewrote the lyrics
because this one sounded a bit fruity
I definately hear him singing about mango...
Frank/Charles please tell us what you sung there
It's not important or anything
but it would be nice to know
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 00:46:01
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When he comes around we must ask him, but maybe he doesn´t remember anymore!
...The majority of people are just like, `Play the monkey song!' |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 01:01:17
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Mosh, don't pass the mango!!!
Just kidding. I don't believe in the mango theory, but...
As Daisy said, he's singing "Tanto vece" (incorrect) instead of "Tantas veces"
I still hear an "i" in the first fruity line (Second verse), so it could be "conmigo" and not "mango" after all.
I don't know if the second verse is different or he just forget the lyrics for a while.
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 01:42:35
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Doing a long session with my sister (Sound Forge, Stereo, Mono Right Channel, Mono Left Channel) we've come with this.
Canto a veces Comango - Oh my Golly ('Comango' isn't a word, but 'Con Mango' have no sense)
Tantas veces, tantas veces él dice - Oh my Golly
La vida total es una porquería - Oh my Golly
Pero siempre dice - Oh my Golly
Rosa.....
Canto a veces Comingo - Oh my Golly (Exactly the same case: 'Comingo' isn't a word.'Conmigo' maybe?
Tantas veces, tantas veces él dice - Oh my Golly
(La vida total es) una porquería - Oh my Golly (He is saying something like 'Puedo robarles')
Pero siempre él dice - Oh my Golly
Rosa.....
Lines without side note are fairly clear.
"¡¡¡Bien!!!, dame el ritmo. Así es mejor" - Jonathan Richman |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6030 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 03:30:02
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this seems correct
and what does it mean exactly?
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 05:23:58
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| conmigo..is a word...in Chile at least...means with me....but the sentence doesn´t have sense if you use the translation....canto a veces conmigo (sing sometimes with me??)....ummm |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6030 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 06:10:14
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could be a grammar mistake though
frank was supposed to make faults all the time
maybe he means
singS sometimes with me
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 11:23:50
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Canto a veces conmigo - Oh my Golly
Sometimes I sing with myself - Oh my Golly
Tantas veces, tantas veces él dice - Oh my Golly
So many times, so many times he says - Oh my Golly
La vida total es una porquería - Oh my Golly
That's more tricky. I see 3 possible meanings:
- The whole life is rubbish
- Life is total rubbish
- Life, after all, is rubbish (unlikely)
Pero siempre dice - Oh my Golly
But he always says - Oh my Golly
Rosa.....
This is my definitive shitty translation, but I tried to do my best. Feel free to post your suggestions about it.
PS: I show the song to my brother-in-law and his brother and he said: "That's portuguese". We have been cheated!!!
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 11:29:32
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I knew it! he sings in portuguese, that´s just great!
Canto às vezes comigo - oh my golly
tantas vezes, tantas vezes ele diz - oh my golly
a vida é uma total porcaria - oh my golly
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 12:01:17
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That makes more sense, then. Similar translation, anyway.
If you fall I will catch you, I'll be waiting... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6030 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 12:06:22
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Originally posted by rita
I knew it! he sings in portuguese, that´s just great!
Canto às vezes comigo - oh my golly
tantas vezes, tantas vezes ele diz - oh my golly
a vida é uma total porcaria - oh my golly
...The majority of people are just like, `Play the monkey song!'
So I asume you know what it means....
since you are from portugal
BTW
I love your translation Whoreatthedoor
if it isn't spanish like you said
your lyrics are great, Frank singing in himself and all....
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 12:12:57
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I don´t think that´s portuguese, what Frank sings, I would love that it was but I think it´s just Frank singing in bad spanish...
What I said in portuguese is something like:
I sing sometimes with me - oh my golly
So many times, so many times he says - oh my golly
Life is a total rubish - oh my golly
But it isn´t portuguese at all, we don´t say "porqueria" and the accent isn´t portuguese either!
P.S. nice signature Whore!
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 12:43:20
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HAHA!!! Thanks, Rita. I know you hate Cyndi.
Sorry if we've been fooling you, Bill. No, it's spanish. That story about my brother-in-law is true, but i post it just to show you that this isn't an easy job.
And thanks Bill for being so nice with my translation.
If you fall I will catch you, I'll be waiting... |
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Posted - 10/31/2004 : 12:53:32
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Cyndi who? Cyndi Lauper?? I hate her music, how could you know that? Can you read minds?
Sorry Bill about Frank singing in portuguese...I would love him to do it but he doesn´t!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6030 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 13:26:00
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ok, but the funny thing is that you both, spannish or portugues,
say he's singing something in the lines of:
I sing in my self sometimes
ohh my golly
So many times, so many times he says
ohh my golly
Life is total rubbish
ohh my golly
But he always says
Ohh my golly
ROSA!ROSA!ROSA!
so I guess that it's something in those lines
we still haven't figured out the mango though |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6030 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 13:28:57
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BTW he is singing (thanks aleceifel.net)
in the surfer rosa version:
La vida total es un porqueria, porqueria
translated there as:
All of life is a pigstay, pigstay
or
Total life is shitty shitty.
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