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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  07:25:30  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://video.bmj.net/busted/simpsonfuckup.mpg

"D'Oh!"

And she had the nerve to blame it on her band?



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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  07:40:20  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, that was a thing of beauty. If I were her band, I might do it to her on purpose after that.

Newsflash: If you're going to lipsync, you don't need a mic.

Addenum: If you're going to suck at even lipsynching, you should not perform live for fear of bring the corporate music scheme down for all the others milking their looks for money.


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ramona
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  08:07:30  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What is UP with her dancing? Eeek.

I thought Jude Law was pretty cute though, natch.

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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  08:33:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So did that actually air? I didn't catch all of that episode. That is pretty funny though.



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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  08:43:53  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I got a tremendous laugh out of it yesterday morning, when someone forwarded me a link in an e-mail.

THE POP FACADE CRUMBLES TO SHIT!

i love it, i love it

can you believe she actually tried to blame her band at the end of the episode (during the "hugs" segment)? i'm sorry, but what a bitch. They basically started playing right along to whatever the SNL-sound people cued up...a.ka. her lip-synching vocal track! Its apparent she has no musical integrity, at least try to have some personal integrity by being accountable for your embarassing actions rather than trying to pin it on three guys who can actually play instruments and create live music in your crappy "band"
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  09:02:12  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
HAW-haw[/nelson]
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  09:15:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That was hard to watch. Though only marginally harder than watching an Ashlee Simpson performance where nothing goes wrong.

Remember when SNL used to have cool musical guests? Or did they always have 'pop'ular acts on, but pop music just used to be better?
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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  09:19:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
more funny than that, is watching fred durst try to play guitar. wait til the second half! http://media.kxly.com/stories/video/2004Jun/fredshred.WMV
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  09:20:28  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well they have always had crap guests but they used to have some decent ones mixed in.

now it's all shit because the show is all shit.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  09:39:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My favorite part of this whole thing? A quote from an interview she did this year:

From Lucky Magazine:

LM: What are your takes on lip-synching?

AS: I'm totally against it and offended by it. I'm going out to let my real talent show, not to just stand there and dance around. Personally, I'd never lip-synch. It's just not me.


Oops!




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Coldheartofstone
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Canada
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  10:11:13  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
HAHAHAHAHA.. Oh god...

This made my weekend. After seeing that, I didn't feel so bad for staying in Saturday night. Yeah and the fact that she blamed her band?!? That was horrible. But I must say It's been a long time coming.

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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  10:28:42  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

the saddest thing is this will not end her career.
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Coldheartofstone
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Canada
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  10:45:58  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
no, They'll find some way to praise her for it. Fuckin...er...

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speedy_m
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Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  10:50:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sure her press people have better spin doctors than the Repulican and Democratic party put together. Besides, what do the 10-15 year olds who buy this crap care if she sings on stage or not? It's not like people in pop music circles will suddenly be shocked that people lip sync. Elton John calling out Madonna, blah blah blah. The whole thing is stupid. The entire industry is a farce, some sort of facsimilie of real music. Then someone is rumored to lip sync on stage and there's controversy. What bullshit.
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  10:53:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm glad i don't know who the fuck she is.
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =

USA
725 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  10:56:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I happened to walk in the room just in time to see this.

I love that she was exposed. But, SNL is just as exposed, either you have a live show or not and the booker should tell all the acts no backup tracks unless your DJ is on stage (for the rap acts).

This SHOULD be a milli-vanilli level controversy, but, then again, why pummel this girl when Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Brittany Spears, Madonna et al have already made a mint doing it?
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1738 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  11:01:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it was quite amusing how her band looked at each other like they thought it was hilarious as she walked off.



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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  11:31:36  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yep. who the hell is she? never heard of her before. and she's the worst dancer i've ever seen.


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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  11:33:47  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
She's the sister of an even less talented ass clown. Jessica Simpson.

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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  11:36:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
did anyone see the video i posted.. out of interest.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  11:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hear Geffen issued a statement blaming it on SNL, saying the backing vocals weren't supposed to be used at all and that the SNL sound guy was to blame. Uh, yeah. Ok.

I've also heard her parents claim that her voice was acting up so the backing vocals were a last minute thing so that she can sing tonight at some awards show. Uh, yeah. Ok.

My niece, who is 8, loves Ashlee Simpson. I was forced to sit through a few episodes of the MTV reality thing with her. In them, Ashlee insisted that she didn't sing pop music like her sister, but that she was a punk rocker. She appeared to be serious. I certainly can't imagine Louise Post or Kathleen Hanna or even Courtney Love going to backing tracks when they're having a bad day. The sad state of female "rock" nowadays.


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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  11:55:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

did anyone see the video i posted.. out of interest.


yes that was very sad. Every guitar player sounds like that at some point, usually near the beginning of learning how to play. But to go in front of thousands of people and try to play like that? What the hell was up with those riffs at the end? Was that rehearsed? I hope not.
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
667 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  14:05:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara
I certainly can't imagine Louise Post or Kathleen Hanna or even Courtney Love going to backing tracks when they're having a bad day. The sad state of female "rock" nowadays.


I must say that the reference to Courtney Love was out of place in that lineup.

Courtney is one of the biggest pre-fab, scene-hopping hacks in the business. People seem to cut her some kind of slack since she obviousl still fries her brain cells, but that doesn't imply legitimacy to me, it implies stupidity and selfish behavior on the part of a despicably absent mother.

Her records are complete hoaxes. They are buffed and shined and Pro-Tooled and pitch-transposed in post-production so much that it's a joke to call what she does "punk" - let alone "alternative rock."

It's as mainstream and big-business and corporate and Tiger Beat as it comes. It's just that, unlike most do-what-they're tolds, she can't be counted on not to fuck up in front of the cameras when the time is right.

If, in fact, Courtney has never used pre-recorded backing tracks in concert (and, as someone who has crewed a lot of major shows, I think it's entirely reasonable to assume that she has) I feel certain the only reason for that is because she got so high/drunk/angry/delirious that she forgot how to turn them on, or wound up beaning her soundman in the head with a cinderblock-filled tampon (or some such nasty projectile) 10 minutes before the show.

Based on some bootlegs I've heard, there are plenty of Courtney Love audience members that would probably have paid extra to see her use backing tracks so their hotly anticipated concert experience wouldn't have sounded like deep-fried ass.

Sorry.





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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  14:36:34  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve

more funny than that, is watching fred durst try to play guitar. wait til the second half! http://media.kxly.com/stories/video/2004Jun/fredshred.WMV



What a stupid worthless tool.

Not that I wasn't already aware...this video just bolstered my conviction tenfold
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  14:37:36  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
I've also heard her parents claim that her voice was acting up


Really, could it possibly have sounded worse than her normal voice?

quote:
In them, Ashlee insisted that she didn't sing pop music like her sister, but that she was a punk rocker. She appeared to be serious.


Yeah, just like how Avril Lavigne is a punk rocker, and how Pink does grunge.



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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  14:42:43  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
avril lavigne invented puck rock, fyi.
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LBF1976
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  14:46:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fredshred is hilarious... that is the worst guitar playing I've ever seen in my life. That's just a shame...

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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  14:50:36  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Even U2 uses canned music at shows sometimes. Someone told me they even canned some of Edge's solos during the PopMart tour.

The thing that will burn Ashlee the most is how she reacted to the snafu. 13 year olds may not care about talent, but they do care about being associated with popularity and coolness. Ashlee was awkward and embarassing when the thing went down and acted like an idiot with that hillbilly dance. Over the next few weeks she's going to be hacked to pieces by TV, newspapers, and the internet. 13 year olds are going to start holding her CD at arms length like a loaded diaper.

Should be interesting to see what happens tonight at the Radio Music Awards. She's supposed to perform "live". If she's smart, she'll go out there with an acoustic guitar and try to remedy the situation. Since she's not smart, she'll probably go out and lip synch "Pieces of Me" EXACTLY the same as she did on SNL (the first time). I hope they boo her ass. She's got a serious inferiority complex with her sister who despite having vocal ability is a terrible singer and sells more records by being cute and stupid. They must have some lame ass parents.

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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  15:00:01  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

well there's a difference between uses canned sounds (which even rush does) and pretending to play or sing along to a recording.

personally i think the former is fine and the latter is dispicable.
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KimStanleyRobinson
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1972 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  15:06:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*knock on door*

"Hi, we're with the Ashlee Simpson fan club - are you a member?"
"Yes!! I love her!!!"
"Well, as you know, she had an unfortunate experience on television recently."
"Yes, i felt so bad for her. Stupid soundman!"
"Yes, well, we were wondering if you'd like to record a message to Ashlee wishing her luck or whatever else you might like to say. We have some recording equipment here in the van. No, you won't need your coat, if you'll just follow me."




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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  16:01:18  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

also before this thread disappears i'd like to point out that ashlee simpson is ugly.

as are paris hilton, christina aguilera, et al.
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harringk
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USA
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  16:14:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious


also before this thread disappears i'd like to point out that ashlee simpson is ugly.

as are paris hilton, christina aguilera, et al.



Finally something Ebb and I can agree on. Finally we've found some common ground.
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BLT
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South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  16:20:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think we can all agree on one thing: Acid reflux makes people do the strangest things.

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Ebb Vicious
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USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2004 :  16:24:36  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
acid reflux makes me rob old women of their pension money.
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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  16:28:34  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i must add that britney spears is ugly as well. i can't see what some men find in her apart her college outfit in that first video. now that she dresses like a slut she's a total turnoff. being a sexy whore isn't as simple as putting on some banal\stereotyped slutty clothes. mah.


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WolfManMikeLonely
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USA
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  16:47:12  Show Profile  Visit WolfManMikeLonely's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think I'm going to have to disagree with everyone calling these girls ugly. I don't see that for a second, they're ugly people in some sense but I don't think that it's a physical thing at least.

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