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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  13:26:52  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ok...

I'm repeating a question from another topic.
Ok...tomorrow is pay day and I need to get a new book...and 4 CD's...

So gimme your suggestions, and out of what I end up getting I'll tell you how it went over.

Thanks

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But everything looks perfect from far away,
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =

USA
725 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  13:33:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rubber Factory by the Black Keys is great IMO. Just released a week or two ago.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  13:33:57  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
book: great apes, or death and the penguin, or the curious incident of the boy in the night-time (it's a massive book over here already, not sure if it is over there, but the best book i've read in a long time)

cd's: simple kid 'sk1', modest mouse 'good news' (if you don't already have it), the concretes, erm... i don't know. see whatever is in the offers.


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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  13:47:20  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
for cds, i'd go with a.c. newman's "the slow wonder" or camper van beethoven's "new roman times"

-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  14:33:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i originally replied to this in the our lovely selves topic, but I'll repeat here, cause they're good suggestions, one and all:

book - the tetherballs of bouganville (sp?)- mark leyner

cds -
1- the new Mooney Suzuki
2 - Regina Spektor - Soviet Kitsch
3 - Teenage Jesus and the Jerks
4 - Velvet Underground - Live at Max's Kansas City

the sound of ataris kills me and my friends
'cause we know that we'll never go back there again
sometimes we play playstation
but it's not the same
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  14:57:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New Nick Cave albums. Awesome. Really.


Take this rock and shake it 'til it bleeds.
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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:01:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
books:

Charles Bukowski: Post Office
Richard Brautigan: The abortion (a historical romance) or any of the three in one books
Iain Banks: The Wasp Factory
Michael Marshall Smith: Only Forward

Cd....hmmmm...Shellac, 1000 hurts or at the drive in, relationship of command or NoMeansNo, wrong orthe Longpigs, the sun is often out (for that shiny happy feeling)


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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:03:39  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
wasp factory - good, but disappointing ending imo. was told to expect a twist, a good/shocking one, but in the end it was just "oh yeah, right"

reading the bridge at the moment by banks, haven't got very far so far... but like it so far.


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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:10:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I liked the wasp factory 'cos it made me laugh out loud (and I don't do that often) and I didn't see the twist coming and I did have a jaw drop at it too, I also like the way the book feels, you know that thing where a book takes you to a certain place? I love revisiting that island

The Bridge, I do like it, but, er, no I say nothing


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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:17:36  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
fair enough. it did make me laugh i guess. mainly the parts when his mad brother called him whilst on the run. not as much as curious incident of the boy in the night-time though...


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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:30:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
isn't it the dog in the night time or am I thinking of something different?

(I read the wasp factory on a camping holiday in the lake district, we were in this slopey field and I was curled up on a blanket outside the tent, when I got to the bit where his racist uncle died I laughed so hard I ended up rolling half way down the hill because I couldn't control myself, I got some funny looks, kinda used to that though)


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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:35:48  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yes it is dog in the night-time... bit tired and ill and on pain killers and been drinking wine, mind not quite with it.


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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:38:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
everyone raves about that book, it's everywhere, is it really that good?


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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:40:36  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yeah, if i realised it was everywhere and people were raving about it when i got it (well when my gf told me i should read it) i would have said "no way" - but i read it and gradually started to notice the hype around it. and it deserves it. judging by the books you like, esp wasp factory, you'd love this book. such a pretty book too! very funny, and inspiring too.


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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:47:16  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

book:
sandman by neil gaiman
(all 9)

cds:
'american recordings' johnny cash
'adore' the smashing pumpkins
'the process' skinny puppy
'from the choirgirl hotel' tori amos


do it.

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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:49:58  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious


book:
sandman by neil gaiman
(all 9)

cds:
'american recordings' johnny cash
'adore' the smashing pumpkins
'the process' skinny puppy
'from the choirgirl hotel' tori amos


do it.





i wouldn't buy any of them. certainly not adore. shit.


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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  15:52:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bumble, considering I'm so stupid though do you think I'd understand the big words? to be honest the hype has put me off reading it so far, but everyone I know who has read it has told me good things (although some of them did that 'you have to read it, it won prizes' thing that people do, which made me want to hit them and not read it)

BTW, I hope you feel better soon, even though you are mean

Ebb, do comics count as books? heh heh, sorry graphic novels all nine would be bloody expensive too, I know they're like Ģ13 each here


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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  16:01:28  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2


i wouldn't buy any of them. certainly not adore. shit.


you are an imbecile, then. i am sorry for the disappointment your mother must feel for you.

edit:

well i don't particularly care for neil gaiman's 'traditional book' work, and i have been thinking about 'sandman' lately. i don't see why "graphic novels" wouldn't count as books. vonnegut used illustrations too, y'know.

Edited by - Ebb Vicious on 10/14/2004 16:02:52
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  16:31:32  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I really enjoyed "Neverwhere" (Neil Gaiman) when I read it a few years back.

Haven't read anything very interesting recently. Mostly labor history books.

So, Neil Gaiman's "Neverwhere" is my recommendation.

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CD's:

Shudder to Think - Pony Express Record
Liars - They Were Wrong So We Drowned
The Pop Group - Y
Utah Phillips - We Have Fed You All A Thousand Years

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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  16:44:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
neverwhere was ok, and so was the one he did with Pratchett, good omens I think it was (I have it here somewhere) entertaining at least

Ebb, I was kidding, I dig the graphic novel but I have had some bolshy literary purists dismiss me for reading them


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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  17:19:05  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

i know i know i thought the bit about vonnegut's illustrations was funny.

my friends love all of gaiman's books but i tried to read 'neverwhere' and i didn't like it. i think his writing style is well suited to graphic novels because the illustrations can fill in a lot of the holes. i think gaiman leaves too many holes in his descriptive text. if i wanted to imagine everything myself i would write my own stories.. :P i'm reading a book because i want to see what the author has to offer.

i've always thought the notion that "the great thing about books is you can use your imagination!" is a pile of shit.
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Posted - 10/14/2004 :  17:25:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dunno though, I hate watching a film before I've read the book because it fucks with how I'll read it, I like my interpretation on things, same as the film very rarely lives up to the book, except maybe Dune, I love them both, although the film pronounced all the words wrong which sucked

I like the sandman books 'cos they're pretty


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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  17:53:50  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
posted by soundofataris

3 - Teenage Jesus and the Jerks


A brave (but highly rewarding) choice. Say, have you heard "No New York"? It's a compilation featuring tracks from four seminal "no-wave" bands from the late '70s (including the Jerks). DNA's my other favorite band from that comp.
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  18:14:11  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

of course you get to interpret things and filter them more in a book than a film. but no more so than say, music, photography, painting, etc. film is the most explicit medium.

but my point was that a good book does not leave everything to the imagination of the reader. and as i said, the point of reading it is to see what the author's imagination came up with.
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2004 :  00:34:34  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knight

quote:
posted by soundofataris

3 - Teenage Jesus and the Jerks


A brave (but highly rewarding) choice. Say, have you heard "No New York"? It's a compilation featuring tracks from four seminal "no-wave" bands from the late '70s (including the Jerks). DNA's my other favorite band from that comp.



I have that.

Caused me to seek out more no-wave stuff.

Really liked Fear's response to it, though. "New York's Alright (If You Like Saxophones)"

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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2004 :  01:26:36  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I thought I'd make a list of recent CDs only.

Br Danielson - Brother Is To Son. One of the best Danielson records, with guest appearance by Sufjan Stevens. Reminds me a lot of Brian Wilson's Smile.
Carla Bozulich - Red Headed Stranger. Released last year, and ranked #2 in my top 10, just behind SMYT.
Libertines - s/t. I don't have it actually but I think they're cool.
Joanna Newsom - Milk Eyed Mender. Crazy but with great songwriting.

Book: if you like graphic novels, try I Never Liked You by Chester Brown. It's the only graphic novel that made me cry and the best one I've ever read. If you don't like graphic novels, read it anyway, you'll change your mind.


Denis

"I do feel sorry for people who don't collect records and obsess about music. Why? Because collecting, consuming and obsessing over music and records is very interesting. That's why." - Johan Kugelberg
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  01:45:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can buy 4 Frankblackfrancis, or 1! And the latest Nick Cave.
About the book, I donīt have any suggestion!

...The majority of people are just like, `Play the monkey song!'
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  08:35:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious


of course you get to interpret things and filter them more in a book than a film. but no more so than say, music, photography, painting, etc. film is the most explicit medium.

but my point was that a good book does not leave everything to the imagination of the reader. and as i said, the point of reading it is to see what the author's imagination came up with.



O.K. maybe it was a bad comparative. Of course there's no point an author leaving everything to the imagination of the individual, you might as well sit on a sofa and day dream. But a good author should be able to take an imagination into hitherto unexplored regions, does that make sense? or am I wittering... er...

I do like books that are explicit in their descriptive text, I mentioned 'dune' before that is one of the most thorough books I have ever read and one of my favourite books too (mega geek) but then books like 'post office' - bukowski are so sprawly and random and poetic and yeah full of holes but the holes are skanky and should only be looked in if you are of strong constitution, umm whats naked lunch, i suppose thats descriptive and skanky, I like books that make me work a bit, that force you to think in different ways entirely.

Which reminds me, I've lost my point entirely, sorry very tired and very ill today


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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2004 :  10:29:43  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ok....well...on my lunch break I just bought:

Modest mouse-the moon & antarctica
Stereolab-Sound-Dust
CAKE-Prolonging the magic(memories)
SNDTRK-Garden State
The Cure- Head on the door & Bloodflowers

It's just hopeless when I step into a music store...i forget what I want and just go mental picking up everything.

UUggh...

Well keep the suggestions coming cause I spend all my money on music...and beer.


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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  10:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
stereolab! oh dear oh dear

I saw them live three times by accident


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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  10:44:11  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
by accident?? How did this happen?

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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  11:08:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
supporting REM and at a festival, could hear them from the tent where I was sulking


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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  11:10:18  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Awww....sulking...

the only concert I sulked at was ZWAN...it was pretty bad too, it was like the music was fueling my misery. DAMN YOU BILLY!!!

He is in the music business, he is calling you DUDE!
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  11:14:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was at the festival with a style over substance type, I was bored


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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2004 :  11:18:55  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i never saw zwan in concert but the album is quite good i'll have you know. billy is known for being hit or miss in concert.
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Posted - 10/15/2004 :  11:23:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
isn't zwan like smashing pumpkins but, er, happy?

*shudder*


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