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dslator
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Posted - 01/23/2005 :  05:23:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The book Gigantic: The Story of Frank Black and the "Pixies" by John Mendelssohn is out now in the UK.

Has anyone read it yet ?

I've just ordered it from Amazon (the_book_depository) for £13.63 (inc P&P).
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/23/2005 :  06:23:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Devils Islander

I have a book which I bought off e-bay, called "Planet Of Sound" by Jordi Bianciotto. It's about Pixies, The Breeders, Frank Black, & The Amps.


...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are.



Ooh that sounds interesting. Does anyone know where I may get a copy?

As for this Frank/Pixies book, well I have been waiting for one for ages so I hope this oen turns out to be worth the wait.

Love, love, my season
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2005 :  06:29:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually I have just realised that the 'Planet Of Sound' book is not in English. You didn't mention that Devils Islander, you swine.

Love, love, my season
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 01/24/2005 :  18:11:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mun chien andalusia

any ideas on how to shoplift amazon? cause i don't think that this book will distributed in bookstores over here.


join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking




you can have the one i ordered on accident. for free. they wouldn't let me cancel the order for some crazy reason!
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/25/2005 :  05:37:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For free? That's madness, at least read it first. Put it up for auction on here after that, maybe give the money to charity.

Love, love, my season
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just_give_me_a_reason
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  08:09:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jeez I'm angry

Just flipped through the Mendelssohn book in Books Etc. Now I have to inform all of my friends and relatives not to buy it for me. It stinks. Open at any random page (those that are about the man and his band anyway ignoring the half of the book that seems to be an audition to a publisher of chick lit) and you'll find insults - yes insults - about Franks' appearance, his singing, Kim's singing, the live recording process, the gullability of reviewers... and so on and so on. To read it you'd think "DITS" was an appalling tuneless dirge with endless half-cocked solos. The author has either missed everything unique and brilliant about Frank and the Pixies, or he doesn't get it, or he gets it and he hates it. I think this thread has been far too polite about this book. I don't expect uncritical appraisal, but who the hell wants to read a three hundred page long bad review.

I certainly hope John Mendelssohn had as miserable time as it sounds listening to Frank.
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2005 :  09:26:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who really cares if this dude is not a fan of FB or Pixies. It's just another opinion. I had to order the book and will read it when it gets here. It doesn't bother me if he has a negitive opinion of them, he is intitled.

Free the Heel!
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just_give_me_a_reason
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  09:51:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like I said, I've only flipped through it. As a massive fan I thought a purchase was a no-brainer. But when you do get a look at it please put your honest opinion up here. Even some of the photo captions are nasty, undignified comments... and those are the type of opinion he is NOT entitled to put into print. My advice, to anyone who has not seen this book, is to STAY AWAY.

But hey, that's just my opinion.
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2005 :  09:58:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately I ordered the thing, but before it arrived I got clued in to it via threads here. Not gonna read it, and I wouldn't even sell it or give it away. If I could I'd probably buy up all the copies just so initiates wouldn't think it's anything worth reading. Mendelssohn's is not "just another opinion". The guy's a fool who had no business writing this book, and probably no books at all. The guy does not respect the written word.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  10:48:15  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I haven't read the book, and wasn't aware it was full of potshots at FB and company or I probably wouldn't have bothered talking with John in the first place. I mean, if he doesn't like the music, fine, but that's inexcusable.


"Joined the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  11:03:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

I haven't read the book, and wasn't aware it was full of potshots at FB and company or I probably wouldn't have bothered talking with John in the first place. I mean, if he doesn't like the music, fine, but that's inexcusable.



those are my thoughts too
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The Holiday Son
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France
2008 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2005 :  11:24:13  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the worst thing about this is not that he doesn't like the pixies and badmouth them.
the problem is that he's selling this book to the fans withtout warning them that it's anti-pixies. it should say on the cover: "Pixies suck" so that everybody know what they's buying!
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2005 :  10:04:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok my copy is in. I will start reading it this weekend and let you know what I think come Monday.

Free the Heel!
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madtempest
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USA
225 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2005 :  14:07:13  Show Profile  Visit madtempest's Homepage  Click to see madtempest's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I was sent a reviewers copy, and unfortunately, it is total crap.

Glad I didn't pay for it.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/06/2005 :  14:14:17  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Trust the mad man. It's more FB who gets a verbal 'kicking' than the band.
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2005 :  14:14:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oww, according to amazon they only have one copy left in stock. Act now or miss out! My self, I'm gonna miss out.

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i try to be mallory but i'm still skippy
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 05/06/2005 :  18:30:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you'd like a good laugh, go look at the reviews on amazon--6 reviews, every one of them is one star. I almost feel bad for the author.


¡Viva los Católicos! http://adrianfoster.dmusic.com/
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2005 :  18:58:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
back in the day when John was first here and people (including me) gave him a hard time for not being a huge pixies fan, i tried to see the positive side and thought: maybe it's good that a non-obsessed freak fan write a biography; could be a little more objective and less tainted by a fans very biased perspective.

i guess i was wrong.

now someone needs to write a freakish, fan love-fest book to make up for this
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 05/06/2005 :  22:23:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you want to see the band trashed in a tabloid fashon, buy it.

Otherwise it would be a compete and utter waste of you money.

Even newspaper makes cheaper kindling.
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 05/06/2005 :  23:02:53  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hahaha, I love that last bit as a tagline for the book. They could print it on the cover.


"Joined the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 05/07/2005 :  17:53:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah, I thought about using it as TP, but it's too rough.
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2005 :  10:02:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'M UP TO CHAPTER 5. SO FAR I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING. WHEN DOES ALL THIS THRASHING OF THE BAND COME IN?

Free the Heel!
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fbc
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Posted - 05/09/2005 :  10:35:48  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Away from the pointless fictional fan chapters, check out the part of the book after the bands split. Look at the FB solo shit. You see?
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/09/2005 :  10:47:19  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'm sure i've posted this before, but it must have been the new crappy book thread. still relevant here.

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11577&whichpage=1

this is a thread that happened months ago, and if you can be arsed to look, you may find some quotes from the book that aren't exactly favourable*. All be it just one man's opinion, but still, this is a book about Frank Black and the Pixies.

[*edit - i didn't want a book in favour or out of favour of the music, just one that delved deep into the history, gave us the facts, some nice quotes and additional info to the already known)

Edited by - fbc on 05/09/2005 11:18:20
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 05/09/2005 :  22:11:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, trust me I wish I would have bought a Pixiesdisc instead
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Mickey
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USA
207 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2005 :  22:48:04  Show Profile  Visit Mickey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the fact that this guy does'nt like the Pixies (especially Frank) really isn't the thing that frustrates me. What frustrates me is that I spent $20.00 on something that is so poorly written that it feels like a zine put out by a couple of 15 year olds.

Plus it's very poorly researched. I can look through article archives and use google too, bro!

-Mickey
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:39:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WE can write a better book!! I want this Mendelssohn's head on a plate!
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2005 :  17:40:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so would you guys say you liked John Mendelssohn's book, or disliked it?
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2005 :  18:15:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hav'nt read it!!
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 05/11/2005 :  15:13:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey

the fact that this guy does'nt like the Pixies (especially Frank) really isn't the thing that frustrates me. What frustrates me is that I spent $20.00 on something that is so poorly written that it feels like a zine put out by a couple of 15 year olds.

Plus it's very poorly researched. I can look through article archives and use google too, bro!

-Mickey



Yeah, the book actually had some typos, too.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 05/11/2005 :  15:16:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I fucking hate it when boks have typos!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2005 :  16:42:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What typo typos? :D
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Adam
= Cult of Ray =

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2005 :  09:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, I've gotten to the part where he starts making little comments about Franks build and Kims voice. Also decided to skip the adventures of Her Perf, because I don't care what she is up to.

Free the Heel!
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2005 :  19:22:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

What typo typos? :D



well that would make me read the whole darn thing again... and to be honest my free time is at a premium!

But I swear there were at least three. Plus, I didn't read that fan mumbo jumbo, so there could be many, more.
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2005 :  19:26:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
there could be many, more.



is that comma a typo?




I guess floop WAS right!
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