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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2002 :  01:07:09  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
I have my hands on around $38 in "credit" to spend at Amazon.com.

I am leaning toward getting a few CDs, but have also looked at DVDs and electronics. Lately I have been interested in the folk/blues sounds of mostly black guys from the late 20s to like the 50s. First, is anyone here either an expert on this era, or do you have any suggestions in this vein. I have looked at Leadbelly, Charley Patton, Blind Willie McTell, Son House, Skip James. I already have Robert Johnson. Also, what about Woody Guthrie.

Also interested in trying on Iggy Pop & Stooges maybe. Also also am trying to maybe get back into Bob Dylan. I bought "the Freewheelin" and "Times are a CHangin" a long time ago. What is a mid 60s to mid 70s must-have disk, or maybe a complilation or something?

Or maybe just give me an idea out of the blue.

I am also a fan of a lot of B horror flicks. More a fan on 50s-60s American International but also like Hammer ones, and some Mario Bava and Lucio Fulci. So any suggestions on must-haves in this genre? I found a 3 film on 1 DVD with Nosferatu (original one) Metropolis and Phantom of the Opera (Lon Chaney one). Another like that would be nice.

Also, have any of the Queens of the Stone Age guys seen the DVD and is it worth getting the limited edition of "songs for the deaf" for the DVD?

ps: I am only asking for help because I rarely am able to spend money (on music especially) like this, and this will probably be my only "fun" purchase for a long time. So I want to make the most of it--and I trust the judgment of many on this board. Thanks.

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"Lance Hunt wears glasses. Captain Amazing doesn't wear glasses."--William "the Shoveler" Macy

Edited by - johndietzel on 12/31/2002 01:13:27

Leah
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
314 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2002 :  03:00:53  Show Profile
I'd go with the Nosferatu, Metropolis & Phantom option. And maybe get a poster.

Reason being those three films are still brilliant time over time and elements of them appear in so many modern flicks its almost funny.

Do they come with any good extras?

If you don't own anything by the Flying Burrito Brothers I recommend you check them out too since you mention you love Dylan circa 60/70s.

Also you could check out some of Paul Robesons's output during the 30's & 40's. Some of his old stuff is amazing.

Idea out of the blue: anything with Billie Holiday singing Strange Fruit on it - that is one song that will touch and perhaps even change something in you - I personally guarantee it.

Just some random thoughts...


Every choice human being strives instinctively for a citadel and a secrecy where he is saved from the crowd -
Nietzsche
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2002 :  05:49:11  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage
I'm not certain I'd go with the 3-on-1 disc. Most DVD versions of "Metropolis" haven't made the transfer very well. (You know, when the title runs off of either side of the screen. You'll have something like, "tropoli" instead.)

Mitchell Duneier has written a couple of great books (Sidewalk, Slim's Table) You can get them both for, like, $30.

Woody Guthrie's "Dustbowl Ballads"



*Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2002 :  09:20:34  Show Profile
John,

I would recommend a book by Lauren St John, her biography of Steve Earle: Hardcore Troubadour: The Life and Near Death of Steve Earle. It is very entertaining, and completely hair-raising stuff. If it has to be music a recent live Dylan CD: The Rolling Thunder Review has been released from c1975, I think it was recorded just before the release of Desire. It is not regarded as highly as other Dylan bootlegs, but is well worth a listen. I also have a Leadbelly/Guthrie compilation album - I will have to dig it out to give more details - it is part of a folk roots series.
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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
548 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2003 :  11:31:48  Show Profile
T.A.Z. The temporary Autonomous Zone by Hakim Bey... super strange but an example in style which is unmatched anywhere else. Philosophy/Cultural Studies/Political Ranting and Black Magic... worth the purchase even if you will more than likely end up on some government computer for buying it.

Yeah! Me!

Edited by - St. Francis on 01/01/2003 11:40:27
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mereubu
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USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2003 :  11:35:34  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
I have consulted with my resident Iggy expert, and he says (to paraphrase those cheesy movie ads) that "if you can only buy one Stooges album this year. . .let it be Fun House. It's fucking great!"

Happy spending!
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2003 :  23:00:59  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Well, what's nice about the answers to this topic is that I can still take all the comments under advisement, if it turns out I'm unable to actually swindle each and every book and disc and movie from Amazon for the $40 I have. Now I have more "stuff" to check out.

I also realized that my asking for people's input on this is like a haircut person asking you what you want done to your hair. In both instances, the person wants to feel like he is truly planning to utilize the input, but it usually reverts to what was generally in his head from the get-go.

BTW, someone mentioned the 3-fer with Nosferatu/Metropolis/Phantom. I think I was unclear when attempting to explain that I ALREADY own that DVD. And I would definitely recommend it to anyone who doesn't have a copy of any one of the three movies, despite any possible transfer quality issues. In the case of Metropolis, I REALLY wanted to have it at my disposal to be able to watch and rewatch at my leisure. And in this particular case, the transfer is actually not great, BUT, thankfully the soundtrack is entirely composed of common classical themes, instead of what I have endured while watching other presentations of the film, like speed metal or industrial or experimental avant garde stuff. For heck's sake, don't overtake the whole film with some completely obnoxious and distracting score. Jerks.

I also saw a Metropolis/M combo DVD but I assumed it must be really crap quality, since it was so inexpensive. And I think a really nice quality M is more likely to exist than a pristine Metropolis presentation. You guys ever see "Hands of Orlok" (I think that's the name, also with Peter Lorre)? Cool movie.

Leah: Thanks for the Billie H recommendation. I'm actually a fan, and really like Strangefruit. Well, if you can actually like that sort of song. I mean you can't exactly say "that song rocks" or "such a pretty ballad" to such a poignantly dreary dirge, about such a dreadful, unavoidable piece of history. "The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth." My first exposure was through Siouxsie & the Banshees. Too bad, cuz I still always have trouble separating Billie's from Siouxsie's voice when the song plays in my head. But yeah, a tragic song sung by a tragic being. Chills.
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"Lance Hunt wears glasses. Captain Amazing doesn't wear glasses."--William "the Shoveler" Macy

Edited by - johndietzel on 01/01/2003 23:10:16
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2003 :  16:03:08  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by mereubu

I have consulted with my resident Iggy expert, and he says (to paraphrase those cheesy movie ads) that "if you can only buy one Stooges album this year. . .let it be Fun House. It's fucking great!"

Happy spending!



i'd respectfully disagree and say RAW POWER is the Stooges must have..
i know your pain though John, it's so hard to decide when you're actually going to spend money on CD's..

compilations this year:

i've heard great things about the "20 Years Of Dischord" compilation. 3 disks for like 20 bucks. that's on my list of stuff to buy when i have money..

also, if you're lacking in the Devo department, the new double CD, "The Pioneers Who Got Scalped" looks pretty stylie. for your 70's action.

a random film recommendation: KISS ME DEADLY (1955). probably my all time favorite film noir.. a truly odd film. it's got all the elements of the classic film noir genre but it's even darker and weirder. and it's got one of the most bizarre endings of any film i've ever seen.
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2003 :  16:13:00  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
im liking amazon less and less now, they screwed over cdnow.com and they take forever to ship, my aunt ordered something for me for christmas the day after thanksgiving and it never came. now we gotta figure out where it is! crazy!

-miked
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2003 :  23:07:28  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by floop
i'd respectfully disagree and say RAW POWER is the Stooges must have..

Well if any floops ever happened to decide to send any dietzels a mix tape maybe he might could happen to include a fave stooges track or two. Just saying, if.

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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2003 :  00:13:50  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by johndietzel

quote:
Originally posted by floop
i'd respectfully disagree and say RAW POWER is the Stooges must have..

Well if any floops ever happened to decide to send any dietzels a mix tape maybe he might could happen to include a fave stooges track or two. Just saying, if.




heh heh heh..

i'm one step ahead of you j.d.

in time..

palabra a tu madre.

Edited by - floop on 01/03/2003 00:17:57
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