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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
548 Posts |
 Posted - 12/04/2002 : 17:10:45
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Hey,
Okay, before anyone burns me in effigy or tags me as a Fank hater I have the following to say: I think Frank is amazing (especially considering several of the alternatives out there) and I generally enjoy most of his songs. Nevertheless, there are some songs for me -and there has to be a couple songs for you- which promote a race for the skip button on your remote...for me it's Blast off.
On with the dissent!
Lord-a-mercy! |
Edited by - St. Francis on 12/04/2002 17:12:05 |
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citizen30
- FB Fan -
USA
54 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 18:04:59
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| Hate to say it, especially because it hasn't even appeared on an album yet, but I almost immediatly did not like 'Manitoba' from first listen, and each of the shows that I saw in the past month it would downright irk me. Maybe its the religious overtones but I am planning skip it when it does appear on the next release. I also don't really like 'Hermaphroditos'. Its a great live song and it rocks, just not one of my favs. Sorry Frank! |
Edited by - citizen30 on 12/14/2002 11:39:11 |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 19:21:15
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I'd agree with C30...i'm not too impressed with the new song, especially with the religerous overtone.
I like Hermaphroditos tho...heheh.. |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 19:30:26
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I'm not to fond of "Big Red". I mean it's OK, but probably my least favorite on Teenager of the Year.
Also, "Skeleton Man" doesn't do much for me.
I don't think i actually hate any Frank Black song. But there are definitely a couple songs that i would be fine without.
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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
548 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 20:01:27
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Agreed...nothing bad just some not as good
Lord-a-mercy! |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 20:18:20
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I also sort of agree with the religious understones in Manitoba, but i guess we should keep in mind Frank isn't very religious, so he might be singing from someone else's perspective, as he seems to do.
You're Such a Wire never did it for me. On the first couple of Catholics albums, some of the lighter songs (save for 85 Weeks which i think gets a good execution)don't totally work from with the production. For whatever reason, i like the sound of lighter songs on the more recent albums a lot more.
Also, i'm occasionally tempted to skip Tossed, but i rarely do. And "I don't wanna hurt you". But there isn't a Frank album that I dont listen to all the way through. I'd say his batting average is about .993 |
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Solidgld
- FB Fan -
USA
104 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 20:35:15
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| Sorry like em all. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 20:44:48
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it's easier to do this per album.
FB: None
TOTY: Fiddle Riddle
COR: None
FB&TC: I Gotta Move
Pistolero: Skeleton Man
DITS: Hermaphroditos
BLD: Whispering Weeds
DW: None
Out of all those, my least favorite is a tie between Hermaphroditos and Whispering Weeds.
www.thebennies.com |
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 23:17:15
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Originally posted by citizen30
Hate to say it, especially because it hasn't even appeared on an album yet, but I almost immediatly did not like 'Manitoba' form first listen, and each of the shows that I saw in the past month it would downright irk me. Maybe its the religious overtones . . .
I don't automatically apply the "religion" moniker to any mention of God. The concept of a god is so extra-religious to me, and I don't consider the Manitoba god whose face the subject has seen, to be somehow bound by religion.
However, even if the song had stylish lyrics proclaiming Jesus to be the Son of the Living God or something, I would pity you for not liking it for that reason. Sticking to such reasoning would prevent me (and I would venture to guess, a lot of people) from listening to a huge portion of the music I currently appreciate.
"I don't trust anything said by a news anchor who doesn't have a believable hairpiece."
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -
United Kingdom
1733 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 01:44:47
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I agree with John. I tend to think of Dave Noisy/the forum as God at the moment. And My God, I have dearly paid. Well, I might if i ever get my act together to send a donation.
As for worst Frank track, it has to be Dance War. From previous postings it is clear that Frank isn't a fan of it anymore either. I didn't like Tossed greatly when I first heard it - but Hermaphroditos is awesome. |
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1340 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 02:28:09
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FB:Brackish Boy
TOTY:Fiddle Riddle
COR:Take Your Pick
FBC:666
PIS:NON
DITS:Dog In The Sand
BLD:Black Rider
DW:Fields Of Marigold
Just to point out, in most cases all these albums only have one song I skip with the exception of Pistolero.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 03:08:38
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I'm with Itchload - I really don't like You're Such A Wire. I actually skip nearly half of Pistolero when listening to it. Those who mentioned Blast Off & Whispering Weeds: you gotta be out of your minds.
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
899 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 03:15:04
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| 'Brackish Boy', 'You Ain't Me', 'Do You Feel Bad About It?', and 'The Scene' immediately spring to mind. And I really like 'Dance War', thanks very much. |
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 03:41:40
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did someone say "big red"? oh well, we can all have different opinions. personally, over the years, songs that a really like dont seem as good anymore and songs that i skipped over in the past are my favs now....i used to hate the "sound of music", now i love it, same for "rocky horror"........what can you do huh?
wutchu talkin bout willis? |
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 06:10:07
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I think that Frank might be speaking of the Aurora Borealis when he is speaking of seeing God's face. I do not think it has much to do with a set religion. I have a feeling that he (or the person he is singing about) has ever experienced the Nothern Lights and that is what captivated him. Just a hunch. Anyways the only song that I would not go out of my way to listen to would be Hate Me. Have no idea why, might have been hungover the first time listening to it or something. Brings back bad vibes.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
Buttercup! Bubbles! Let's go! |
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KingOfSiam
- FB LinkMaster -
USA
460 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 06:19:15
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| I cannot believe I saw You Ain't Me, 666 and Skeleton Man in this post! I would have to say that I like all the songs and I rarely skip a track. And Malax how can you say you don't enjoy Cult of Ray? |
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =
USA
344 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 06:54:06
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Without question, itÕs ÒDance WarÓ. And Manitoba? The reason I like Manitoba so much is because of the inclusion of God in the story. It makes the message of the song more profound and interesting (to me at least). And no, the song has nothing whatsoever to do with religion. But if it did...would the same bunch dislike ÒCain and AbelÓ, Ò666Ó, ÒJesus Was RightÓ, ÒNimrodÕs SonÓ, and a handful of other Pixies songs I canÕt quite name.
And by the way, anyone else notice how the acoustic version sounds almost exactly like a Johnny Cash song. (And I mean that as a compliment to Frank) |
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =
USA
344 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 06:57:33
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Without question, itÕs ÒDance WarÓ. And Manitoba? The reason I like Manitoba so much is because of the inclusion of God in the story. It makes the message of the song more profound and interesting (to me at least). And no, the song has nothing whatsoever to do with religion. But if it did...would the same bunch dislike ÒCain and AbelÓ, Ò666Ó, ÒJesus Was RightÓ, ÒNimrodÕs SonÓ, and a handful of other Pixies songs I canÕt quite name.
And by the way, anyone else notice how the acoustic version sounds almost exactly like a Johnny Cash song. (And I mean that as a compliment to Frank) |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1439 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 07:39:18
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i wouldnt be mad into true blue off BLD. i know loads of people love that song - but hey different strokes.
when you've got nothing
you've got nothing to lose.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 08:13:35
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GASP!! Dog in the Sand?? I want to cry. Also I can't believe Skeleton Man, 666, fiddle Riddle and Hermaphroditos are on here. Oh well. Let's see, the one's I can think of off the top of my head are:
BLD: Whispering Weeds
Workshop: The Modern Age
Dang, there are others but my brain won't function right now.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 08:14:23
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| OH and Blast Off!!?? Come on, that's one of his best. |
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1140 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 11:32:09
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the songs i dont like by frank are Fields of Marigold and 1826. They are ok but i have to be in a certain mood or else i dont really enjoy them, which is unlike his other stuff. Also the religeous stuff put me off a little in Manitoba just like it did California Bound, but for the same reason i like california bound, i like Manitoba. its so damn catchy. other than that, i never liked stormy weather from bossonova, the last 2 mins of that song drive me nuts.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 12:28:29
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Oh, I like Fields of Marigold! But, to each his own, obviously. I could do without 1826 and Manitoba like some of you guys already said.
I always thought Bullet was sort of Franks' Johnny Cash song.
Oh, and I love You Ain't Me!
girlie so groovy I want you to know... |
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FranknWeezer
= Cult of Ray =
USA
356 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 13:57:50
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1826 Bugs the hell out of me. I skip it EVERY time.
I don't know if it's any worse than 666 or Skeleton Man, though.
There's always gonna be some filler, but these three would have been better left off the albums altogether.
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1140 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 14:48:46
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really you dont like skeleton man? i dont like 666 so much on the album but its great live for some reason. i personally love skeleton man. its so fun to play on guitar
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freedom rocker
- FB Fan -
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 15:03:57
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the great thing about franks music is that it's all about everyone's unbiased opinion. He has no hit's on the radio so your not forced to like or dislike any particular song.
I'm not to crazy about "The man who was to loud"
the blues isn't an art-form, it's a product-- not unlike computer chips and tampons.
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Edited by - freedom rocker on 12/05/2002 15:04:51 |
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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
548 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 16:24:19
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I like Manitoba but then again I am Canadian and any subtle geography for Americans is a good thing (Jepordy proves this). I was actually very surprised Frank named a song after a relatively forgotten province (well at least since the Jets moved to Pheonix).
As for the "God" reference think it is just an analogy for desire and shouldn't be taken literally.
Also agree with those who put 666 on the list...never was a fan of that and I could have done without the ear bleeding version he did on the last tour.
Lord-a-mercy! |
Edited by - St. Francis on 12/05/2002 16:25:55 |
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Larry Norman Jr
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Posted - 12/05/2002 : 20:23:25
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Hey, I really like "1826"
As for a song I don't like, my least listened to would be.. "if it takes all night" |
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
411 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2002 : 22:22:42
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FB: none
TOTY: none
COR: none
ODDBALLS: none
FBATC: none
Pistolero: none
DITS: none
BLD: none
DW: none
The new songs: none
You people are all nuts.
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Brackish Heart
- FB Fan -
Australia
176 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2002 : 00:44:18
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I probably shouldn't post while i'm half pissed but anyway...
what i classify as pretty ordinary or generally skippable tracks are:
FB : Hang onto your ego
TOTY : none
COR : cult of ray, dance war, punk rock city, kicked in the taco
FBATC : suffering, the man who was too loud
Pistolero : i want rock n roll, skeleton man
Dog in the sand : the swimmer
Black letter days : 1826, farewell bend, black rider (i like the live version though)
devils workshop : none
oddballs : village of the sun, baby that's art, remake remodel
sunday sunny mill.... : la cigare volant
new songs (manitoba, nardine) - just got a bootleg and sounded fucken great to me
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2002 : 01:22:17
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God! 1826! That song is absolutely amazing! Reminds me a lot of that 7 minutes song on Sticky Fingers. Fields Of Marigold - I can understand why some don't like it much, but I really love it. Maybe cuz I'm a Bowie fan and it sounds like Mott The Hoople's All The Young Dudes.
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
403 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2002 : 02:15:17
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fb: none
Toty: none
COR: dance war, i don't want to hurt you
FB & C : 666
Pist. : none
Dits: never been a huge fan of hermaphroditos
Bld: farewell bend....1826 is a GREAT song
DW: are u headed my way
SSMVGD : Sleep
these are the only FB sngs that i even remotely dislike |
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =
914 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2002 : 10:58:02
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not big on dog in the sand, on dog in the sand
as soon as i heard 1826 i loved how it was sounding, but the song just doesn't change, with a little more work coulda been a gem. |
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Brackish
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Posted - 12/06/2002 : 12:44:07
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FB: Hang On To Your Ego
TOTY: Fazer Eyes
COR: I Don't Want To Hurt You
FB&C: Do You Feel Bad About It
Pistolero: I Love Your Brain
DITS: I'll Be Blue
DW: Not really any.
BLD: 1826
I knew tastes vary, but man, this thread takes it to a new level. Up is down, down is up. |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2002 : 13:57:32
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| Any one else hate headache? I can't stand it - it GIVES me a headache. It seems though that everyone loves it. |
Edited by - realmeanmotorscutor on 12/09/2002 11:48:43 |
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2002 : 13:59:14
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| There aren't too many Frank songs that I don't like. I really don't care for 1826 and Franks cover of Sleep. Are you headed my way & Punk Rock City are okay and the lead guitar in Farewell Bend drives me crazy even though I like the song. |
Edited by - frankblackphx on 12/09/2002 09:40:34 |
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