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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2002 :  21:36:52  Show Profile
i want so bad to play frank black songs, say i've only been playing hard for like 2 weeks, what are the easiest songs to play

too damn hard with all the sharps and crap

El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2002 :  23:03:45  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
"sharps and crap"...lol. You have the base notes, and the sharps are one step (one fret) above that. Simple enough to me. Six-Sixty-Six is no doubt the easiest, unless he has a song with a single note.

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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  04:02:44  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
valentine and garuda is kinda easy becuase its mostly basic open chords you have to learn eventually. cold heart of stone too. of course if you wanna go back to pixies days thats where all the easy songs are. gouge away and subbacultcha are the same thing the entire song.

-miked
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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =

308 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  07:04:23  Show Profile
Six Sixty-Six is by far the easiest Frank song to learn. What's the hardest Frank song to play? I Gotta Move, maybe? I'm not great at guitar or anything so I have a little trouble with that song.

-Jimmy M.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6225 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  07:43:19  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
Blast Off (more chords please mister Thompson!)

Yop
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  08:03:40  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
Pixies songs are definitely much easier to play than FB songs (especially lead-wise). I'd say 'Two Reelers' is pretty damn difficult if you haven't a good sense of rhythm. I'm not helping, am I?
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  09:46:28  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Llano is pretty easy..
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Mike Rutherford
- FB Fan -

USA
171 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  10:01:43  Show Profile  Click to see Mike Rutherford's MSN Messenger address
A note to anyone wanting to learn how to play FB songs.....LEARN HOW TO PLAY MAJOR AND MINOR BARRES!!!!! I find time and time again that the barre chords are the hardest ones for a lot of guitarists to pick up, especially on acoustic guitar (harder to "barre" the strings down). But that is basically how Frank plays much of his stuff (rhythms at least), and once you get the hang of em, his songs become pretty easy and you start to see a definitive pattern to his unique song structure.

As far as easiest FB songs.....to me a lot of em are painless, but I've been playing for quite a while and it's hard for me to think as relatively new guitar player...but let's see...I think the following are relatively simple:

Los Angeles
Hang On To Your Ego (really easy)
Brackish Boy
Calistan
Jesus Was Right
Do You Feel Bad About It
666
I'll Be Blue
If It Takes All Night
Black Letter Day
21 Reasons
Velvety
Out Of State


All of those are pretty straightforeward...just get a feel for some basic chords.

IMO, the Pistolero album, while maybe not "difficult", does seem to have a lot of little things going on often, thus making it one of the more difficult albums to play.

Other songs like The Swimmer are all over the place with the sharps and major/minor chord changes. Not hard to play, but a little tricky if you're not familiar with sharps and can't play barres very well. I agree about Blast Off as well, especially with the tuning change.

If I had to pick the harder FB songs to play, I would pick the following:

Two Reelers
I Don't Want To Hurt You....
The Adventure & the Resolution
I Love Your Brain
So Hard To Make Things Out
Blast Off
Jane the Queen of Love (its all about the timing and "strumming")
Fields Of Marigold (just some "odd" patterns/sounds)
His Kingly Cave (chords galore...not hard, just some "different" chords)
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  11:31:03  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Hardest FB song to play...wow, that's a toughy...So Hard To Make Things Out is pretty damn hard. Two Reelers has a crazy ass rhythm...Bad, Wicked World is pretty crazy cause it's so damn fast. I'd have to say overall, So Hard To Make Things Out would take the cake.

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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
548 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  12:18:26  Show Profile
I don't find "St. Francis Dam Distaster" to be overly difficult...it is all open chords and looks daunting but isn't. "Where is my Mind" is a good song if you want to learn how to play bar chords.

Lord-a-mercy!

Edited by - St. Francis on 11/25/2002 13:01:09
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -

USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  13:47:35  Show Profile
The Cult of Ray song has alot of chords. The rhythm isn't too difficult, but you have to know alot of chord shapes (barre chords). I think i counted the root notes in The Cult of Ray once, and it uses 11 out of the 12 tones as root notes. If i remember correctly...

Derek
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2002 :  13:48:23  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Mike R mentioned this, but I think the bar chords are tough to get down, so even like "Cold Heart of Stone" would be pretty tough for a new player. Even more so because it, and other ones like "Los Angeles" have you switching from bar to open chords. I mean, for me it's super easy once you learn bar chords to play a straight bar chord song. Just sliding around the same shape or two. But I remember having trouble with even keeping down the two strings on the "easy" F chord with my index finger.

I would say to also keep in mind that if you simply want to be able to sing along to yourself playing a Frank tune, you don't HAVE to learn some exact note-for-note tab or something. Just play the chords that belong there. Like with "Every Time I Go Around Here" you just play the simple chords and sing along. Woo hoo. "You're Such a Wire" is pretty basic too.

Is "At the End of the World" difficult to play? I've never sat down to learn it, but it sure seems like a lot of really quick changes for the verses.

"I don't trust anything said by a news anchor who doesn't have a believable hairpiece."
Dennis Miller

Edited by - johndietzel on 11/25/2002 13:52:20
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steveplymouthuk
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
639 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2002 :  13:26:15  Show Profile  Visit steveplymouthuk's Homepage
I think Im starting to lose it is pretty easy, as is do you feel bad about it

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When I bar chord
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2002 :  20:16:55  Show Profile
thanks all!
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 11/27/2002 :  07:56:32  Show Profile
i also wouldnt think that dog in the sand would be too hard.
maybe worth a go. cheers lads.

cartoons kick ass.
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2002 :  17:35:33  Show Profile
everyone is saying 666 is real easy but the tabs arent on the page

anyone have another page that has them?
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2002 :  20:55:44  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
i play sir rockaby. that's the only frank song i can play using real chords. i'll play anything using powerchords, though!
i ooze with talent.

-dan
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2002 :  21:01:25  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Llano is really easy.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2002 :  21:09:39  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
666 = G C D

www.thebennies.com
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fallus
- FB Fan -

Belgium
94 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2002 :  08:56:54  Show Profile  Visit fallus's Homepage
if you're just starting out, just play the powerchords. Like this :


e----
B----
G----
D-5--
A-5--
E-3--

or even :

e----
B----
G----
D----
A-5--
E-3--


Just like a simple bar chord (and with powerchords, you don't have to worry about playing a mayor or minor chord.)

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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2002 :  17:03:12  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
On a different note..hardest to sing... During Headache i find i nearly give myself an aneurysm in the last section...
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =

USA
408 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2002 :  17:20:48  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage
wtf? Six Sixty Six isn't a Frank Black song. It's a Larry Norman. I know, picky picky, but someones got to keep track of these things. Pan Am. Highway is perty easy til the end. cranker, johnny
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2002 :  18:00:18  Show Profile
and mr Yen, where can i get the tabs for pan-am?
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