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Treo Black
- FB Fan -

Finland
26 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  05:49:09  Show Profile
I'll get Pistolero tomorrow. Ordered it yesterday, so it should come. It's the last of the FB&C -albums I was missing. I'm so happy to get it, but also a bit sad. Soon I won't have the feeling of waiting for to get it anymore. You all propably know the feeling. Or maybe you don't and I'm just a sick freak, thinking about things like this constantly. However, any reviews of Pistolero in the internet?

Now I'm just employed

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Edited by - Cult_Of_Frank on 02/11/2004 06:17:24

mun chien andalusia
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Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  05:58:12  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
pistolero remains my least favourite but has it's moments.here are some on line reviews:

http://www.nudeasthenews.com/reviews/941
http://www.zboneman.com/music/253.html
http://www.westnet.com/consumable/1999/04.05/revblack.html
http://www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak/99-2/issue1/frankblack.html
http://www.cdconsumer.com/yir2.htm


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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  07:28:13  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
Pisteloro was my first
and I love it!

but I know what feeling treo is describing here
as a GBV fan you should have their classic Bee Thousand
But I still have not
I just want to wait
wait forever
perhaps
just because it feels good to wait
for this gem



"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf"
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  10:14:19  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
Pistolero rules - to this day it's arguably my favorite FB&C album. Enjoy.

Possessing the whole catalogue of Catholics music can be both a blessing (you've got it all) and a curse (there's nothing left to lust after.)
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George42
- FB Fan -

USA
188 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  10:23:38  Show Profile
yeah...Pistolero hardly gets much 'press time' in this forum but it has some of the bands best on it. 'bad harmony' is top 10 easily.
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

2923 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  10:34:48  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage
You won't be dissapointed!!! As soon as you hear Western Star,Billy Radcliffe and Bad Harmony you'll be sad you didn't get it earlier,great music indeed!!!!
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  10:45:46  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
I love Pistolero.


"Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window."
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GoddessTheory
= Cult of Ray =

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  11:16:22  Show Profile
Probably my most favorite.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  11:20:10  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Love it now, but it took some time to get to that stage. About 3-4 spins.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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GoddessTheory
= Cult of Ray =

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  11:48:43  Show Profile
3 is the average it seems on all FB&TC stuff. (Except curiously SMYT)
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =

USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  11:55:01  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
Pistolero was love at first listen for me. Enjoy!


"I joined the Cult of Frank / And all I got was this lousy icon"
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  11:59:01  Show Profile
Definitely one of my favorites if not my favorite


¡Viva los Católicos!
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George42
- FB Fan -

USA
188 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  12:26:51  Show Profile
Western Star is great. TOTY is the ONLY FB album i loved right off the bat. the others i needed 3-4 spins to really get in to.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  12:32:48  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
Best Songs on Pistolero:

Bad Harmony (a CLASSIC Catholics song, imho)

Western Star

Tiny Heart

Billy Radcliffe

So Hard To Make Things Out

So. Bay

and Cult of Frank's proposed sink-in time of 3-4 spins is about right. The sheer fucking rock beauty of this record is hard to absorb in the first couple of listens. it will grow on you like a benign tumor, my friend.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  12:56:11  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
So. Bay is like one of Frank's all-time best songs. I am quite envious of you being able to hear it for the first time and go through that initial rush of realizing how awesome it is.

Western Star is also amazing.

My third favourite on the CD seems to be quite controversial, but I love Skeleton Man. Love it. The riff, tone, chorus, everything.

You are in for a treat.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  13:02:58  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
I think I loved Pistolero from the first listen...it was the second album I ever bought from FB (I think). I bought it the day it came out, which is always exciting. I Switched You floored me, So Hard To Make Things Out was my favorite for a while, and So. Bay sealed the deal. It's such a fantastic album, probably their most rockin.


"Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window."
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IceCream
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  13:32:40  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage
Western Star is often considered the best song from this album...It won the survivor, and I think I sew an internet poll with a bunch of Frank songs; Western Star got a VERY high rating.


Tim, the only one who laughs
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  13:54:45  Show Profile
SMOKE UP! SMOKE UP! SMOKE UP!!
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In her mirror
- FB Fan -

Spain
20 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  13:58:11  Show Profile
Definetly FUCK PISTOLERO

It is the worst FB work

I'd just save "Western star" and "Billy Radcliff"

just for your fingers
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GoddessTheory
= Cult of Ray =

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  14:00:55  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by In her mirror

Definetly FUCK PISTOLERO

It is the worst FB work

I'd just save "Western star" and "Billy Radcliff"

just for your fingers



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mcmikey
= Cult of Ray =

799 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  14:22:16  Show Profile
no time for love, Dr. Jones

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spoon
- FB Fan -

45 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  14:59:55  Show Profile  Visit spoon's Homepage
IF you already ordered the CD why would you care about reviews?....you will have your chance to review it shortly. (Please tells us how you like it....make sure you listen to it at least 7 times!).
Plus the reviews (thanks for the links mun chien) are all the most piss pour reviews I have taken the time to read....incredibly superficial and just plain ignorant.

The you have some goofball from Spain who has obviously never heard Devil's Workshop....but it's all good! <g>

Enjoy,
spoon
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interloper
= Cult of Ray =

440 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  15:29:53  Show Profile
I love the record too. I think the first third is great, and the last third or so is great. The middle kind of loses me.

Hand held shower nozzles are the demon enemy of the patriarch and should be destroyed.
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  15:48:49  Show Profile
Pistolero was my first Frank Black album. The reason I think it sometimes gets overlooked is more of a reflection on how brilliant all of Frank's other stuff is than it is on Pistolero. I do think it's one of his best...but that of course includes any album he's done.

~~Polly-ann drove steel like a man~~
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  16:34:51  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
I think the Frank album that took the least time to grow on me was DITS, although the orangey-yellow one comes close. Pistolero might be my least favorite overall, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its share of excellent songs, including Western Star, Billy Radcliffe, So Hard To Make Things Out, I Think I'm Starting To Lose It, and (at least for me) Skeleton Man. Most of the other songs are pretty good, but don't blow me away as much as a lot of Frank's catalog.

And as for not having anything else to look forward to, well, there are always EPs, right?

-Nathan
And how does lemur's skin reflect the sea?
http://vovat.blogspot.com/
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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =

308 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  20:31:57  Show Profile
I loved Pistolero when I first received it, but it's since become my second least-favorite Caths album (the first being Cult) - I still dig both albums, however! Also, Skeleton Man is one of the best songs of Frank's career, no matter what the naysayers, uh, say.

-Jimmy M.
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  20:41:09  Show Profile
"Hold my hand.
We''ll walk in the hot sun"


~~Polly-ann drove steel like a man~~
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  20:52:11  Show Profile
I think it's one of the best "driving" CDs of Frank's

Right after it came out I drove 12 hours and back and listened to it over and over again, maybe that's why I think that, but I still think it is a good driving CD.
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2004 :  21:06:06  Show Profile
yeah, BLDS also seems to go down extra spectacular on the road. Paired up with devils workship right after it.

~~Polly-ann drove steel like a man~~
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ispini tapaidh
- FB Fan -

Ireland
122 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  03:31:51  Show Profile
Maybe the people who don't like Pistolero just haven't listened to it enough. It's ace.

Although Billy Radcliffe makes me cycle too fast.

Just coz I'm new doesn't mean I'm just here for the Pixies updates.
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  03:53:13  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
Uh-oh, I think I'm gonna keep MHO to myself.
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  05:17:18  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by In her mirror

Definetly FUCK PISTOLERO

It is the worst FB work

I'd just save "Western star" and "Billy Radcliff"

just for your fingers



yeah, i wouldn't tell it so straight, but basically i feel the same. Pistolero has a terrible sound, imo. it really hurts my ears - too loud, too much distortion. and most of the songs are pretty much average.

Death to the Pixies / Here comes Frank Black
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

1334 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  06:17:51  Show Profile
Must admit I was not mad on Pistelro at first and it actually took me a lot more than 5, ie 20 listens to really get into it. I do agree Western Star, Billy Radcliffe & Skelton Man are my favs but the best moment of all is the screaming in 'I think Im starting to lose it' - it reminds me of NO. 13 baby.

And if your sad becasues its the the last FB&C album dont forget you can make a complilation of B-sides,covers, bonus tracks etc - theres 3 to 4 albums worth of material!
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  06:25:18  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage
pistolero was for ages my favourite of his solo albums.
with the 3 great epics - i switched you, so hard to make things out and so.bay just blowing my mind, along with the fabulous shorter ones, ie billy radcliffe.
but it hasn't lasted for me.
sure, the great ones are still great, but the not so great ones have become really mediocre.
has a large amount of filler i feel. hence why i now skip from end of so hard.. to so.bay

but i think so.bay and so hard.. are 2 of his best songs.

and i love the production on the album. i really like the "loud" sound.
it really suits many of the songs, whereas the more softly approach as on dits would have left the songs feeling flat.


"I joined the Cult of Frank / I think that man deserves a DB!"
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Treo Black
- FB Fan -

Finland
26 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  06:55:21  Show Profile
The record didn't come today. I thought about it all the day at work, cycled in the freezing cold weather with a smile on my face, and the mail box is empty. I changed my opinion; I wouldn't be sad anymore to get it, not at all. Very much the opposite.---
Just waiting for the tomorrow now. Of course this happens during my sober month. Well, of course, usually I don't have money to purchase cd's.---
Your opinions about Pistolero were very interesting to read, some of you liked it, some even hated. I'm not scared about the quality of that album. DW, which was somehow my least favourite, is at this moment sounding so great. Can't put the albums in any order really. Or the songs.---
There are B-sides and staff still to catch, it's just quite hard to get those here. Oh I wish for official compilations of rare stuff, but I'm not sure if I wish it more than new material. Fuck I'm confused.---
Hopefully tomorrow won't be just another black letter day. Already got me so down I got me a headache. Luckily I donät have to work tomorrow, I can concentrate on waiting. Tic, tic, tic, tic, listen -time is running.



Now I'm just employed
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astrology
= Cult of Ray =

Saint Lucia
252 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2004 :  18:54:51  Show Profile  Visit astrology's Homepage  Click to see astrology's MSN Messenger address
i'm a pistolero i'm not shakin in my boots
i'm the ruler of this moon,so if you move i shoots

isnt it lovely?

true blue
exilee in Porto
Portugal
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