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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02/05/2004 : 05:06:57
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with the tracklisting for the Best Of, catalogue numbers and information that you already knew...
pardon the bad pun as well. I couldn't resist :)
that should clear up any Debaser Remix queries anyway! |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 05:15:33
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great news - weehee...
here is the tracklisting:
1. Bone Machine
2. Nimrod's Son
3. The Holiday Song
4. Caribou
5. Broken Face
6. Gigantic (single version)
7. Vamos (Surfer Rosa version)
8. Hey
9. Monkey Gone To Heaven
10. Debaser (Doolittle version)
11. Gouge Away
12. Wave Of Mutilation
13. Here Comes Your Man
14. Tame
15. Where Is My Mind?
16. Into The White
17. Velouria
18. Allison
19. Dig For Fire
20. U-Mass
21. Alec Eiffel
22. Planet Of Sound
23. Winterlong
compared to the DTTP trackilsting of:
1. Cecilia Ann
2. Planet of Sound
3. Tame
4. Here Comes your Man
5. Debaser
6. Dig for Fire
7. Wave of Mutilation
8. Caribou
9. The Holiday Song
10.Nimrod's Son
11.U-Mass
12.Bone Machine
13.Gigantic (EP Version)
14.Where is my Mind?
15.Velouria
16.Gouge Away
17.Monkey Gone to Heaven
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 05:44:02
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ok, so now that i've had my lunch, i can comment....
so all dttp songs are included, but just another 6 added.
(vamos, winterlong, alec eiffel, allison, broken face + hey)
seems a bit weird to me....
i realise it is going to be very relevant now with the reunion, but why a brand new one if it's only got the same songs as the old one, but a few more?
but i am glad it starts off with bone machine....
and jo, are all the songs remastered, cause wasn't dttp remastered?
cause i think the songs on dttp sound fantastic - much better than on the albums...
cook me some fucking eggs! |
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 05:50:34
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basically, the US when DTTP was on Elektra, was still a double cd. Everywhere else it was the UK single cd version... so since we've got the rights back, it made sense to re-do the Best Of, but make it a proper across-the-catalogue one, including b-sides, because DTTP didn't really cover that.. (you didn't spot 'Into the White' has been added!) - so there's one definitive version worldwide, rather than dropping the US down to the single version (which I don't think worked that well anyway, this tracklisting does sound better...)
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:03:57
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quote:
Originally posted by jo
basically, the US when DTTP was on Elektra, was still a double cd. Everywhere else it was the UK single cd version... so since we've got the rights back, it made sense to re-do the Best Of, but make it a proper across-the-catalogue one, including b-sides, because DTTP didn't really cover that.. (you didn't spot 'Into the White' has been added!) - so there's one definitive version worldwide, rather than dropping the US down to the single version (which I don't think worked that well anyway, this tracklisting does sound better...)
i just can't add jo.....and read....
well thanks for explaining all that too me - it makes more sense now.
i'm personally not a fan of chronological tracklistings, but the dttp one was very bad i thought.....
lets hope this one works better....
nb: i was listening to my own b-sides cd on the way to work yesterday, which includes all the b-sides from everything tracked alphabetically, so winterlong was last, and i thought to myself that it was actually a really good closer to a disc...
except for the fade out at the end - i hate fades.
nbb: when do those blasted new yorkers get to work?
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Edited by - benji on 02/05/2004 07:18:11 |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:23:51
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any chance for a live cd to go with this one like in the double cd version of dttp?
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:24:37
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nope, it's just a single one - no extras
sorry |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:32:22
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I'm shocked to not see Motorway to Roswell on there (especially after it was voted number one Pixies song here!) but it looks pretty good. Bone Machine is a great choice as opener, Winterlong a delicious closer. Into The White is a pleasant surprise inclusion and a good choice since FB has taken to it lately.
Now if only you had bundled it with "Hey - A Pixies Tribute" you'd sell them by the barrelfull. :) Which reminds me, have you had a chance to hear it yet? I have to send out a few this month to various parties anyway, so drop me an email if you need a copy.
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Peter Walker
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
189 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:32:31
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Can I be the first person to complain about the tracklisting? No Motorway To Roswell?
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Peter Walker
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
189 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:33:21
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:36:39
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also worth bearing in mind, although there's no live album to go with it, there's a bloody gweatttt DVD :)
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:37:33
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fairly good point there jo...
any release dates yet for any of the releases?
cook me some fucking eggs! |
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:40:41
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| nope, no release dates yet... hopefully soon - we don't normally set dates until we've got artwork (v23 are still working on it) - hopefully we'll have some idea soon - I'd think (and I have nothing to back this up) it'll be April onwards - (ie not March!) - as soon as we know anything I'll post dates! |
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2638 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 06:46:58
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i'll add my voice to the 'no motorway to roswell' complaints... it's a shame it always seems to be overlooked, i personally think it's one of the best songs they did. my only one complaint is maybe it's a little heavy, with all the electric guitars and stuff, but the piano at the end is magical, and just a fantastic song... shame it's not on there... good to see 'hey' and 'alec eiffel' on there though.
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I'm flat out, you're so beautiful to look at when you cry. Freeze, don't move, you've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequal to your life. Shady Lane, everybody wants one, Shady Lane, everybody needs one. |
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
308 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 07:17:21
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| Good tracklist there. The most important songs are there I think, though I'd miss Manta Ray and River Euphrates. Can't say that any of the songs on it doesn't belong there, though... |
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2638 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 07:32:34
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Originally posted by Douglas
Good tracklist there. The most important songs are there I think, though I'd miss Manta Ray and River Euphrates. Can't say that any of the songs on it doesn't belong there, though...
i'd rather see the happening on there than dig for fire... but dig for was a single i believe... so i guess it's only right.
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I'm flat out, you're so beautiful to look at when you cry. Freeze, don't move, you've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequal to your life. Shady Lane, everybody wants one, Shady Lane, everybody needs one. |
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Foucaults Dog
- FB Fan -
Ireland
124 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 08:07:00
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| I know old Bobby Fleckman's quote holds true, but this sounds like too much of a commercial venture. Are Pixies Fans getting anything that they don't already have. I'm gonna buy the DVD - I got a player just for it - But even with that, we've gotten the Gouge Docu off the telly |
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 08:38:15
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you've never seen the Pixies On The Road documentary. That is my favourite bit of the entire DVD - I'd buy it for that alone, it is that good
ok, that probably sounds like I'm over-selling it. But we watched it ages ago, and I almost cried, it was that good. I never cry. |
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2638 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 08:47:56
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quote:
Originally posted by jo
you've never seen the Pixies On The Road documentary. That is my favourite bit of the entire DVD - I'd buy it for that alone, it is that good
ok, that probably sounds like I'm over-selling it. But we watched it ages ago, and I almost cried, it was that good. I never cry.
say no more! say no more!!
<bumble puts fingers in ears as he doesn't want the lovely dvd surprises to be revealed>
la la la la ;)
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I'm flat out, you're so beautiful to look at when you cry. Freeze, don't move, you've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequal to your life. Shady Lane, everybody wants one, Shady Lane, everybody needs one. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 10:01:17
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OK, no Motorway...you end it with Winterlong? Of course there's gonna be a bunch of threads like "OMG ______ ISN'T ON THERE?" but come on, fucking MOTORWAY!
 "Join the Cult of Brit / And let your oral hygiene go out the window." |
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George42
- FB Fan -
USA
188 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 10:49:03
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where the hell is "motorway to roswell"?????
what about "manta ray" ? |
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
308 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 13:25:54
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Originally posted by George42
what about "manta ray" ?
exactly! |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 13:41:05
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OK people enough is enough - no more complaints. We could be here all year and beyond complaining about the track-listing. Let's just be happy with what IS on it 'cos like Douglas said, they are all worthy of inclusion. At the end of the day most of us own everything they have ever done anyway so it doesn't really matter does it?
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Archway
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 02/05/2004 : 14:14:42
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why is ... not on it???? because it's not on it!!!
HA!
i've made my personal Pixies best of-CD almost a year ago. it's entitled
THE ARCHWAY OF AERODYNAMICS - Essential Pixies:
1.Cecilia Ann
2.Wave of Mutilation
3.The Holiday Song
4.I Bleed
5.Trompe le Monde
6.Debaser
7.Dig for Fire
8.Gigantic
9.In Heaven (BBC Session)
10.Alec Eiffel
11.Velouria
12.Bone Machine
13.Winterlong
14.Gouge Away
15.Where is my Mind?
16.Allison
17.Wild Honey Pie (BBC Session)
18.Rock A My Soul
19.Here comes your Man (Purple Tape)
20.Broken Face
21.Letter to Memphis
22.Levitate Me
23.Caribou
24.Planet of Sound
25.The Happening
26.U-Mass
27.Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf)
28.I can't forget
29.Monkey gone to Heaven
Aprox. running time 80 min
I always ask myself why the space of a cd is not fully used on so many best of albums. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 14:20:55
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| Hmmmmmm - Wild Honey Pie!!! |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 14:41:09
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Ok the new best of is better than the old one
but still
a pixies best of is ridiculous
the albums are so good, a best of just donīt do the
tracks justice
I will buy it
I always buy
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 14:43:04
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| Yeah I know what you mean Bill but that's how non-fans (is that a word???) become fans I guess. Well that's how it often happens anyway. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 14:47:01
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thatīs right
Iīm not against it anyway
I have a few best ofīs myself
(stranglers, violent femmes)
I always end up buying all their albums and hating the best of
"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 14:48:55
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What is the Violent Femmes one like? I thought about buying something of theirs for a while now but only managed to get as far as downloading about 20 of their songs off Kazaa.
Also been thinking about Sleater Kinney recently too. |
Edited by - Homers_pet_monkey on 02/05/2004 14:49:27 |
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
736 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 15:12:02
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| k i thought they were having a remixed version of debaser or something on it, i read somewhere on this site, also i hate it when best of compilations have groupings of songs from the same album they apeared on, just too pradictable u know what i mean |
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 15:20:56
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I don't think that there is any reason for a band to have TWO best-of albums, let alone one of which is just the first one with a few extra tracks thrown in.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 17:09:22
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I think I read somewhere that Death to the Pixies has gone out of print, so I suppose this is its replacement.
-Nathan
And how does lemur's skin reflect the sea?
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velveteen
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Posted - 02/05/2004 : 17:13:20
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What about I Can't Forget or Born In Chicago. I'd love to have those on a real CD instead one of my own mixes. I wish they'd get put on an official release.
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 19:31:23
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how about a frank black best of? now we're talking. (pardon for saying that in the here comes your man section). i've got most of the pixies stuff so i probably won't be getting the new best of cd but will definately be purchasing the pixies dvd. and then a new frank black francis double cd and a pixies tour! talk about an early christmas.
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Jefery With One F
- FB Fan -
Canada
184 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2004 : 19:55:12
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| The Violent Femmes "best of" CD (titled Add It Up) is great. In my top 10 favourite CDs of all time. The only regret I have about the CD is that they didn't include Ugly instead of a song like Vancouver. At any rate, it's definitely worth listening to, and there's a great live version of Ugly on their Viva Wisconsin album that almost makes up for the "best of" omission. |
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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Posted - 02/05/2004 : 19:55:34
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| a frank black best of would be a mean CD, hes released alot of good songs since 93 |
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